Help me pick a T3 for Drag racing

[GODCHSR]

Your EMS is more $$ then my entire budget. So yeah, I'm the under dog from the jump. I'm not playing that card as an excuse, I'm F'in good and will probably be faster then you for far less $$

My wife and I paid down a large portion of our debt as well. We're down to one car payment and the mortgage. But I have 2 boys, 14 and 2. They are expensive

WD

But as you said at the beginning, your budget is $1000 BUT you already have a bunch of stuff.

Is the tuning I have going to be superior to yours??? I don't doubt it for a second but what happens from here on out is going to be budgeted and 'iffy'.

I'm not going to be using a new turbo, and if I am not able to afford another car then I won't be able to put mine down to replace the rings, build the cage etc...

I have a compression tester and I suspect the numbers are not going to be as high as I'd like.

So I have to calculate the cost of another car for the winter... money down the drain IMO.

Anyway... will I beat you? Oh yeah, I'm not even remotely worried about that. The question i STILL have is this: Can a stock KA24de make a 10 second pass?Of course this entire thread for me raises one more question (because of the rules we've made:Can a stock KA transmission make a 10 second pass?

My original plan was to convert to a VG built automatic.

[GODCHSR]

Oh and I have 2 daughters... I guess once again the scales are evening out.

[GODCHSR]

LOL, I just realized you changed my avatar sig. lol

[neverlift]

so how are you gonna run the meth standard hobbs switch setup?

SAHD ftmfw. If I didnt do that I would fail on so many levels but just that one thign can make me proud as f***, knowing I raised one decent child is better than getting paid.

ok back to it guys

lol slopoke is my cheap ka guy

I am thinking about doing some sort of water/meth injection and turnign the dizzy back to near stock timing.

wd plans still for a btm for timing control?man godchasr you better win lol.

I think the first to start testntune will win this thing.

[GODCHSR]

My dyno tuning starts this winter before Christmas... In the early spring I'll start hitting the track weekly and making adjustmnst as needed.

BTM=base timing map???

[neverlift]

boost timing master. Lets you retard timing only on boost, so you can run a stock ecu and keep detonation under control.

[GODCHSR]

The guy driving this car is who's working with me on chassis tuning advice (He drives a RWD now)

The guy who tuned this car is the guy who's going to be tuning mine. He's not familiar with AEM EMS since they use Honda specific management in shop... no big deal, we have all winter really!

Enjoihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQh8Xw_RjBI

[WDRacing]

9's in a FWD is pretty friggin quick. But I bet that Honda isn't a daily driver. If it is, it's certainly not enjoyable.

[GODCHSR]

9's in a FWD is pretty friggin quick. But I bet that Honda isn't a daily driver. If it is, it's certainly not enjoyable.

It was fully street legal, with full interior + cage. It had power steering but no AC.

He and I work together... so once in a while he drove it to work and would give joyrides at the end of the day but all in all it wasn't a truly 'streetable' car.

The Z28 he drives now is the same way except currently only a 10 sec car. Granted he only has a cam in the block, where the B18 Honda was fully built.

IIRC He is ranked in the top 10 for F-Body Cam only cars in the world now.

He is a chassis tuning genius, his launch is PERFECT

[motoman399]

The Z28 he drives now is the same way except currently only a 10 sec car. Granted he only has a cam in the block, where the B18 Honda was fully built.

i cant believe that without a time slip or video proving it. thats like 3-4 seconds faster than stock with a $300 tops cam. dont think its possible. but please prove me wrong

[GODCHSR]

i cant believe that without a time slip or video proving it. thats like 3-4 seconds faster than stock with a $300 tops cam. dont think its possible. but please prove me wrong

I'll see if I get get his videos to me but it should be noted that that is hardly un heard of.

No cam only LSs break into the 9s but the 10s is not TOO uncommon.

Maybe you are confused about the term cam-only.?.?.? No nitrous, supercharger, turbo... just a cam and bolt-ons.

[WDRacing]

The cam/intake/header LS motor makes over 500hp when tuned. Thats just one of the many reasons the LS is being swapped into almost every car on the planet. That and it's wicked light.

To much money for me...

[GODCHSR]

Yeah the reality is bandfor the buck the LS1 is a terrific motor for high power street use.

It's makes all it's power early in the RPM band... SO for those people who argue that it can't rev high enough... it doesn't have to.

Although, I'd like to see a diesel swap in an S14 That would rock

[motoman399]

i believe he makes ok power with it. but i still want to see a video lol.

Although, I'd like to see a diesel swap in an S14 That would rock

i agree. i think it would be pretty sweet to see a 240 chuff and not because its tuned bad haha

[GODCHSR]

i believe he makes ok power with it. but i still want to see a video lol.

I sent him a facebook message so hopefully by tomorrow he'll hook me up. I've seen them on his phone at work (He's a diesel tech and I'm a bean counter lol) So I personally know for a fact.

[GODCHSR]

OK, got one of his videos: I know he has like 20 though... lolhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xLr5SILS_s

[GODCHSR]

I want you to pay especially close attention to the exact moment at 20seconds when he starts the rev.You'll notice the rear end of the car lifts up just slightly.

If you watch 'most' amateur dragsters when they start the rev the rear end will squat.

Now obviously that could be expected slightly without major consequence BUT I am mentioning this because when you watch THIS video can can see that even on the hard launch the rear end only moves maybe an inch and that was AFTER the rear had lifted during the stage. He the front wheels not lifted he would have had ZERO squat... which ultimately let's be real, it was a near perfect launch.

So why does all this matter??? Because he's working with me on Chassis tuning. Fully adjustable suspension... 100% solid bushings... Fully custom roll cage... FTW

[GODCHSR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_mH0yNzA1k

Another one...this pass was 10.98His best is 10.81 on the Cam-only setup.

[motoman399]

ok so no doubt that thing is fast. but its more than just a stock camero with a gnarly cam. sounded like it had a beefy trans with trans brake, exhaust of some sort (sounded like open headers) and im sure he had other bolt ons lol. im not talking s*** cause he can go about 6.5 seconds faster in a 1/4 mile than i can... haha but i still have a hard time believing that he took a camero off of the street and put JUST A CAM in it, tuned it, and put some big a** slicks on it and had a 10 sec car. in my eyes it just doesnt happen.

but you are right it looked like he got a perfect start.

[GODCHSR]

ok so no doubt that thing is fast. but its more than just a stock camero with a gnarly cam. sounded like it had a beefy trans with trans brake, exhaust of some sort (sounded like open headers) and im sure he had other bolt ons lol. im not talking s*** cause he can go about 6.5 seconds faster in a 1/4 mile than i can... haha but i still have a hard time believing that he took a camero off of the street and put JUST A CAM in it, tuned it, and put some big a** slicks on it and had a 10 sec car. in my eyes it just doesnt happen.

but you are right it looked like he got a perfect start.

That's why i said earlier that you probably don't understand what cam only actually means.

The point is that the motor has the stock compression, bore etc... nothing aftermarket in the engine except a cam.

THAT is impressive! By chassis tuning and choosing specific gears that you could create put a car in the 10s... wow!

[GODCHSR]

After some looking around, this is the best stock long block drag time I can find.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissa....html

Until I see something with a slip or video showing differently I will asume THIS is the best stock block time.

11.593

[GODCHSR]

Oh and notice the power he's making. This is right on with what I expected to be the case.

So if at 410whp/380TQ he's running mid 11s then with 450whp/420TQ I think that 10.99 is possible. I am building specifically for 450 as my power goal.

I believe that 450 is a safe enough number to have no fear of engine damage.

So once I hit 450 I'll keep adjusting suspension setups and work on launches.

[WDRacing]

He cut a 1.7 launch, which isn't bad. Figure at best you'll get a 1.3, with 30-40 more hp and some good driving you should be able to dip into the 11's. Weight will be a factor as well, but that can be a + or - depending on what you do.

I think you'll see 10's once you've got the "feel" for the car. 10's with a stock block 4 banger is impressive, I don't care who you are.

WD

[GODCHSR]

He cut a 1.7 launch, which isn't bad. Figure at best you'll get a 1.3, with 30-40 more hp and some good driving you should be able to dip into the 11's. Weight will be a factor as well, but that can be a + or - depending on what you do.

I think you'll see 10's once you've got the "feel" for the car. 10's with a stock block 4 banger is impressive, I don't care who you are.

WD

Well if you look at his tuning as well it does not appear like he was getting everything he could out of it either.

BTW I did find the record and now am trying to get in contact with the owner to see if he can provide a video or time slip.

Let me say it first: This is going to be a difficult record to break, and I suspect this guy knows just how difficult it is.

Login: Miami240 Car: 1995 Nissan 240sx Motor: Stock longblock KA-T Weight: 2830 60 ft:1.58 1/8 time: 7.08 1/8 MPH: 99.37 1/4 time: 11.08 1/4 MPH: 123.01 Location: Moroso Motorpark



Ummm... 123 in the 1/4 is hauling! His 60' time is amazing... all of his times are amazing.

here's what I'm looking for to beat him (barely) Lower race weight, slightly better 60',

[GODCHSR]

Here's the link...The videos at bottom of page are dead though??? Hoping he will email them to me

http://www.ka-t.org/forums/vie...light=

[GODCHSR]

BTW< i have now read like every single one of this guys threads and he is beyond legit!!!!!

He fabs all his own stuff... I don't know if this is beatable... maybe I'm way in over my head! lol

[GODCHSR]

The engine:

[GODCHSR]

LOVE the FMIC location!!! Short piping rules!

[GODCHSR]

http://videos.streetfire.net/v...8.htm

[WDRacing]

My car would have to be on a serious diet to weigh in at 2870 with me in it. I wish MSD made a simple / cheap 2 step that didn't require any other boxes.

WD