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Well I dont like spending money on stuff that I dont need. There is also a thing as too much hp for a car. You can have stage 3 everything with 1200hp, but if your spinning through 5th its pountless and you just wasted a bunch of money. Its even worse around turns.

I generally get oil change, buy all the cheap hp like stage1 engine and weight, ECU. cat and exhaust, the 4500 suspension too, and race tires or whatever the race is limited to. Then I see how it is from there and if it can handle more hp comfortably.


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jcide wrote:Not talking about the race series but in general do you guys like to slap every available mod on the car to max it or prefer cars stock or with minimum mods?
Depends on the car. If its something super nice and a work of art, like the Maserati, I'll just lower it and throw some wheels. But, if it's something like a Civic or other commonly tuned cars, I'll go all out on it.

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jcide wrote:Not talking about the race series but in general do you guys like to slap every available mod on the car to max it or prefer cars stock or with minimum mods?
Its all about tuning for the situation.

1.6 is AWESOME. Talk about speak of the devil. All the things I asked for are here, save for brake mods.

On the downside, my FF car became uncompetitive with the ability to limit power. Back to the drawing board for the 3rd time. This time Ive got it though.

In other news, I have been racing myself back to back, controller vs wheel, I have put quite a few laps down, and I found something quite interesting. The advantage, or lack there of, depends on the car, and the situation.

High HP RWD cars, the wheel, can be a big help. The same is true of wet courses.

That being said, for the majority of situations, cars, and tracks, the actual advantage is minimal.

I put around 100 laps in with different cars, about equal with each control setup. For me personally, I actually set fractionally lower times on some courses with the controller. Not kidding, or saying it just to use the wheel. I set a time on one course using the FF car I just ditched. I did it in 5 laps with the controller. After putting down 15 laps with the wheel, the closest I could get was a + .358 difference.

I also tried running with spt md tires on, and depending on track length, it added between 1 and 5 seconds to my average lap time. On Cape Ring inside for example, I spent 15 minutes milking every last second out of a car with spt mds on with the wheel. The best I could manage, was + 2 seconds. This makes me feel that the tire restrictions are again too harsh. I think the best way to negate any possible advantage would be the banning of any form of stability control. No TCS, no ABS. I think the "driving style" should be set to simulation or professional, or whatever the most difficult setting is. Its what I have it set to now. Having to properly modulate throttle and more importantly the brake, takes a tone of control, and effort. I still run ABS sometimes, because trail braking very difficult, and causing a lock up can easily send you into lawn mowing mode. This also puts much more emphasis on tuning brake bias, as well as suspension.

With all that said. This weekend, I will use a controller. I dont see it as any handicap to me, so fair is fair. We can revisit the situation later.

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It might be a fair assessment that because its lower hp, then driving is not improved. I can understand and deal with that. If it was like a 500+ hp race then we might have to make a deal lol

Its all mechanical grip. I am gliding through corners and stickin to them decently well. Im feellin pretty good about my car.

So once again does this mean I can lower the weight to <1050 and then just add ballast to 1050? same with hp?

PS Im also liking the good cars in online garage :drool:

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alms24sebring wrote:So once again does this mean I can lower the weight to <1050 and then just add ballast to 1050? same with hp?
Yes. The race will be held with the same restrictions (except the new "No race car" rule), 256hp / 1000kgs / Sport Softs.

Performance Points will not be a restriction. To be honest, after all is said and done, I would LOVE to hear what each cars PP points were. :biggrin:

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Hey, for those bonus events, can you only do each race once? I tried doing the RX-7 race a second time, but didn't get any rewards or xp.

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Yes you can only get the xp and creds one time.

There is a borrow function now. Any car that is displayed in a friends profile can now be driven. You can tune the car's settings but you can't add parts through the tuning shop, GT auto or with your items.

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Ok so now it's 1000kgs. Just wanna be clear on that.

All online races are a one time only thing. They pay off well tho and are pretty easy to get first.

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alms24sebring wrote:Ok so now it's 1000kgs. Just wanna be clear on that.
Wow, I am a retard...

I went to check the Regs, and it is 1050kgs not 1000.

For emphesis;
1050kgs weight limit!!

Sorry about being a moron.

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alms24sebring wrote:It might be a fair assessment that because its lower hp, then driving is not improved. I can understand and deal with that. If it was like a 500+ hp race then we might have to make a deal lol
It real does become more of advantage as speeds increase, and available traction decreases. Its not hugely noticeable in a super GT car because they are balanced so well, but my 900 whp 1962 Buick special is almost underivable with either setup, the wheel being slightly advantageous.

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Just so every one is on the same page...

These are the tracks.

Cape Ring Inside (9 Laps)
Circuito De Madrid Mini / Reverse (9 Laps)
Autumn Ring Mini (9 Laps)
Eiger Nordwand W Trail / Weather Change - Rain (8 Laps)


Eiger will have rain to start off.

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ProudNissanFreak wrote:Hey, for those bonus events, can you only do each race once? I tried doing the RX-7 race a second time, but didn't get any rewards or xp.
that Eiffel track was pretty fun on the RX-7 race

hopefully i can make this race, i got my car ready in case i can.

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Lol its ok RCA. sweet thanks for clearing that.

Why would they not include the things in 1.06 from the start? Im still waitin for pausing between races in a championship and better shadows.

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I can't make it tomorrow. Crew practice and a 1,000 word paper to write by Monday.

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dam. Thats what you get for waiting till the last minute lol

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You can also change the Final Drive On the X1!!! :mike

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alms24sebring wrote:dam. Thats what you get for waiting till the last minute lol
Paper was done this morning :P

Crew practice is at 3, but I have to be on campus at 2:15 for carpool

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was the time of the race set yet?

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ThatGuyRoger wrote:was the time of the race set yet?
6pm was the word I had heard.

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what I thought it was 3pm. Im online now and only seeing Thatguy on

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Yeah guys, I went by your times posted on the Availability List. This way most of us can make it.

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so its at 6pm?

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Yeah.

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oh ok, gonna try and take care of a few things before then

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Im home now, so I can race whenever. I im not online already when its time to go, Rich, send me an email.

Im assuming based on RCA, and ALMS' location that you mean 6pm EST.

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Yes. EST. I will send you an email.


Also for any one here...

I will be posting a lobby number.
The lobby will have enough spaces for the people who signed up. I will boot who doesn't belong.

Also Eiger will have rain FYI

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ThatGuyRoger wrote:oh ok, gonna try and take care of a few things before then
Not sure if you coming Guy, but we are waiting.

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Well done every body who came out the FWD Face Off!

Congrats to Ian, he took his back-to-back 1st place result and is quickly becoming the dominate force in the GT5 track days. Alms has fell off but can he redeem him self this weekend? Will Biggie finally crack a the 2nd place or better finish? Will RCA finally take the coveted 1st place trophy? Can't wait to find out!

Results from last week:
https://spreadsheets0.google.com/ccc?au ... gYUG#gid=0


As for next race...
NICO’s Ironman Series: Off Road
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You forgot...

Will PNF ever be able to make it? :P

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Hey guys, I sent some friend requests out from the users on this thread...I've been playing GT5 for a month now. Looking for some online fun!

The best car I have is a Toyota 88C-V. I'm only lv 23 for A-spec and lv 22 for B-spec...almost have enough $$ for the Gran Turismo F1 for sale in the online market. Hopefully, I'll have the level and cash before it goes away.

Anyway, just thought I'd pop in and introduce myself.


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