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frapjap wrote:Nice! Eat This: Not That is a cool book
Question to the Expert!

I have been reading nutritional labels, concentrating mainly on sugar, fat, and sodium levels. Why is that that something that is lower in fat than "the original" is higher in sodium?


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As far as detox is concerned, I've always done water fasting. It works amazing and you always feel great afterwords. Technically you loose weight but you shouldn't use any sort of detox to loose weight, you loose it during the period of detox but you gain it back immediately after. Your body basically goes into survival mode so anything you eat after ( anything that can't be immediately used for energy/restoration ) is stored.

Nothing works better than a proper diet and exercise.

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nissangirl74 wrote:
Question to the Expert!

I have been reading nutritional labels, concentrating mainly on sugar, fat, and sodium levels. Why is that that something that is lower in fat than "the original" is higher in sodium?
You've got a very watchful eye! Most consumers won't pick up on that!

The simple and most common answer; taste. Fat tastes good, and we all know that. Its hard wired in our primal brain. When the manufacturer takes out or reduces what tastes best in their product, they have to compensate with more flavor so that the consumer still finds it as a suitable replacement for the original. All to often, it is salt. The second half of this explanation is that salt is also the cheapest (in 98% of cases) flavor agent that a company can use to formulate (or in this case, reformulate) their products.I found this out by accident by asking for a "reduced sodium batter" from one of my suppliers. Much to my surprise, the cost went up a penny per pound! I politely asked "WTF?" and it was explained to me as I wrote it above. So, to sum it up, sodium going up can be inversely related to reduced fat for taste and cost reasons. That, and most people don't bother to look past that front panel blurb like you have.

A fun tidbit since I'm thinking about fat and duping the customer...Do you remember Snackwells? The "reduced fat" cookie? Well, everyone thought they were wonderful because they had less fat than leading brands, which of course means that you can eat more of them. So here these idiots are, buying into a stupid marketing scheme, thinking that because they ate Snackwells Cookies, they could house a whole row in a sitting. I remember reading a study in school from a nutritional journal about how people will eat more of a "reduced, low, or less" item because it gives them the illusion that they are doing something good or something they perceive as healthy for themselves. When, in all actuality, they've actually consumed MORE than what the original version had in it!!!

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Since we're on the subject of hypocrisy today, I thought I'd share one of my FAVORITE books ever: Mindless Eatinghttp://www.amazon.com/Mindless...r=1-1

Its a super easy read with gobs of fun studies completed by the author and his grad students. Its also chock full of fun facts and strategies to reduce and/or curb snacking.

I highly recommend that everyone read it, you'll fall in love with it.

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down to 170.8 as of today...

Didn't work out as much this week. Went into work early every day except today. Also hit up the bar a little more often.

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charlieo wrote:
I'm suspicious of 10 good pounds in a month. But I mean, whatever floats your boat.
Mass Peak + Creatine + BCAA + L-glutamine + Workout 3hrs a day (1.5 hrs in the am, 1 hr afternoon, 30 min at night) 5 days a week and TONS of water FTW

Ive also been taking a Multivitamin, Vitamin D, Fish oil, and Flax seed and I feel great.

Ive really dedicated myself this time, im sick of being so skinny. Im excited to see results and Im excited for summer.

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Griz wrote:
Mass Peak + Creatine + BCAA + L-glutamine + Workout 3hrs a day (1.5 hrs in the am, 1 hr afternoon, 30 min at night) 5 days a week and TONS of water FTW

Ive also been taking a Multivitamin, Vitamin D, Fish oil, and Flax seed and I feel great.

Ive really dedicated myself this time, im sick of being so skinny. Im excited to see results and Im excited for summer.
Take whatever you want, but if you're not on steroids, it's nearly impossible to add 10 good pounds in a month. Unless you're looking at weight gain at any cost. In that case, chub up, brother!

I think a professional would also say you're overtraining and going to hurt yourself. But that I am not.

But I mean, good on you for having a goal and a plan. Just be realistic and watch your snakeoil intake.

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I cracked 170!!I'm down to 168.2, and all I had to do was drink my face off a few nights and skip dinner.

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Griz wrote:
Mass Peak + Creatine + BCAA + L-glutamine + Workout 3hrs a day (1.5 hrs in the am, 1 hr afternoon, 30 min at night) 5 days a week and TONS of water FTW

Ive also been taking a Multivitamin, Vitamin D, Fish oil, and Flax seed and I feel great.

Ive really dedicated myself this time, im sick of being so skinny. Im excited to see results and Im excited for summer.
Your kidneys hate you.

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93coupe wrote:
Your kidneys hate you.
^+ colon.

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So update if anyone cares. I sort of plateaued because my diet was failing and I wasn't gaining any weight but thankfully over spring break I got on track again. I'm 182lbs now depending on the day, for meals I try to have 4 small ones a day, 2 power protein bars and my protein shake. It's working really well so far, I'm just looking to get to 200lbs maybe 210 and then I will switch diets to get more cut. I'll have a good before and after picture by this summer.

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Bumping. I'm in the process of loading last session's training logs onto google docs and figured I might as well share.

From March 1st to April 15th (or will be when I get off my a** and finish it...)

http://spreadsheets.google.com...hl=en

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Griz wrote:BCAA
Stop wasting your money.
Griz wrote:Workout 3hrs a day (1.5 hrs in the am, 1 hr afternoon, 30 min at night) 5 days a week and TONS of water FTW
Are you trying to gain or lose weight? I ask because that workout sounds like weight loss to me, yet your goal is to gain.

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Well I took my Army PT test last Tuesday.Out of a possible 300, I scored a 284. My breakdown was:71 push-ups in 2 mins (95 pts)72 sit-ups in 2 mins (89 pts)...2-mile run in 12:54 (100 pts)

3 days prior I just got home from a week trip to New Orleans, so I wasn't in peak shape. By the time I leave in 3 weeks I will be able to max it out. I'm happy with what I scored though.

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SHIFT_Z wrote:Well I took my Army PT test last Tuesday.Out of a possible 300, I scored a 284. My breakdown was:71 push-ups in 2 mins (95 pts)72 sit-ups in 2 mins (89 pts)...2-mile run in 12:54 (100 pts)

3 days prior I just got home from a week trip to New Orleans, so I wasn't in peak shape. By the time I leave in 3 weeks I will be able to max it out. I'm happy with what I scored though.
What's maxing?

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For my age group:75 push-ups in 2 mins80 sit-ups in 2 minsSub 13 minute 2-mile run

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SHIFT_Z wrote:For my age group:75 push-ups in 2 mins80 sit-ups in 2 minsSub 13 minute 2-mile run
No waist measurement or BMI?

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You only need to worry about getting taped or BMI'd if you're overweight for your height. Since I'm 5"10.5.. I think my max weight allowed is 190 something. And I weigh 175. So there wasn't a necessity for it. They might tape and or BMI index us at Reception Battalion, but with the scores that me and my friend have going in, it probably won't be needed.

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SHIFT_Z wrote:You only need to worry about getting taped or BMI'd if you're overweight for your height. Since I'm 5"10.5.. I think my max weight allowed is 190 something. And I weigh 175. So there wasn't a necessity for it. They might tape and or BMI index us at Reception Battalion, but with the scores that me and my friend have going in, it probably won't be needed.
But that doesn't calculate into your score?

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Nope! As far as Army is concerned, if you can perform the tasks in an efficient and accurate manner... size is irrelevant. And for the most part thats true. But further down the pipeline for MY training... being bigger (muscular) will aid me, since the requirements will be more taxing in a few months.

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I forgot about this thread completely. But i've been keeping up with my goals, doing alright. Today is exactly 6 weeks since i started out. My original height weight was 6foot, 155lbs. Goal is gain 30lbs by summer. I weighed in this morning at 167 so i've gained 12lbs so far, almost half way there :D but i have a feeling its gonna be a lot more work from here on out.

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billabong093 wrote:I forgot about this thread completely. But i've been keeping up with my goals, doing alright. Today is exactly 6 weeks since i started out. My original height weight was 6foot, 155lbs. Goal is gain 30lbs by summer. I weighed in this morning at 167 so i've gained 12lbs so far, almost half way there :D but i have a feeling its gonna be a lot more work from here on out.
Nice work Bro-Ham! Keep it up. If you're putting on weight, just make sure to remember to eat, and eat a lot! Look up recipes that include cottage cheese... it's extremely versatile, TONS of protein, and relatively low calorie. Then when you're done building, start a lean-out phase so you can show off all that muscle you packed on.

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F**K yes! a fitness thread on nico! this is how i stand now



5'7 145 max bench is 255 twice, im curling 115 and squatting 205 =D

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Pretty tongue.

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SHIFT_Z wrote:Well I took my Army PT test last Tuesday.Out of a possible 300, I scored a 284. My breakdown was:71 push-ups in 2 mins (95 pts)72 sit-ups in 2 mins (89 pts)...2-mile run in 12:54 (100 pts)

3 days prior I just got home from a week trip to New Orleans, so I wasn't in peak shape. By the time I leave in 3 weeks I will be able to max it out. I'm happy with what I scored though.
Congrats

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Today's workout was awesome.

WOD - Workout Of the Day

Buy In:

5 RFT(rounds for time)5x Hang Power Cleans 95lbs7x One Armed Kettle Bell Swings(each arm) 35lbs9x Knees 2 Elbows (hanging on the pull-up bar bring your knees all the way up to your elbows)

I was the first one to finish the buy in which was a x-fit first for me. My time was around 8:30 while everyone was at least a minute behind. I was stoked!

Cash Out

100 Sit-Ups for time

I was pretty stoked with my performance for the cash out as well. This was the first time I've tackled this exercise and finished first @ a little over 4 minutes. I've never out performed the entire class before and this was somewhat of a breakthrough for me, I'm ready for tomorrow!
Modified by Empty V at 11:59 AM 3/25/2010

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SHIFT_Z wrote:Well I took my Army PT test last Tuesday.Out of a possible 300, I scored a 284. My breakdown was:71 push-ups in 2 mins (95 pts)72 sit-ups in 2 mins (89 pts)...2-mile run in 12:54 (100 pts)

3 days prior I just got home from a week trip to New Orleans, so I wasn't in peak shape. By the time I leave in 3 weeks I will be able to max it out. I'm happy with what I scored though.
F%$# yeah bro that's awesome!

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Well, I have come to the conclusion that eating like a rabbit just isn't for me. I like a really good salad, but I also like pulled pork, baked potatoes with butter and sour cream, and blackberry cobbler with vanilla ice cream. SO, I am going to throw myself into an aggressive exercise routine. My goal is to achieve the standards for the Army PT test and be able to do that everyday. It's 77 pushups in 2 minutes, 82 situps in 2 minutes, and a 2 mile run in 13:18. I know it's ambitious but it's better than wishing I could eat something and not be able to. Tomorrow morning I'm gonna see how much I can do within the time limits so I can see how far I have to go.

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Ambitious! Most people couldn't meet those standards.

I think joining Empty V in doing Crossfit would probably get you to those goals.

Plus, having visited a Crossfit gym during one of their appreciation months, women who do it are f***in' slammin.

Just doing a PT test every day doesn't do much for you, as a poor woman who can't pass the AF's test in our squadron and is subsequently forced to take one every morning is finding out... She's not even losing weight. Now if you did a PT test everyday as a warmup or cooldown, then daaaamn, that'd be hardcore!

As for diet, on the suggestion of this thread I picked up the Eat This, Not That! book and have taken it quite to heart. It's a terrific idea that if applied, might be a solution to your food vs. goals issue. Certainly has made drastic improvements on my (decent for a busy single guy) diet.

Also in other news, the first half of the Always Sunny episode "Sweet Dee Has A Heart Attack" strikes a deep chord in the use of supplements and exercising.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4172...ttack

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There is a Crossfit gym less than 15 miles from me. Hmmmmm.....

As for my diet, I know I have painted a pretty unflattering picture of myself. Make no mistake, I'm not one to sit down with a tub of ice cream and a plate of bon bons to watch Oprah. I just want to be able to eat something delicious and not have to worry about it going straight to my a** (or my arteries). I'm not afraid of pushing myself physically in order to be able to do that.


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