Fitness thread anyone?

[ReaperBJJ]

I'll join in, no pics at the moment, my camera bit the dust a few weeks ago.

Some back history...Back in high school I used to weightlight and train 6 days a week and had a strict diet, I was an aspiring MMA fighter and a very good powerlifter(5'10" 175lbs Bench:345 Powerclean: 265 Squat: 505 all at 18 years old) and I almost made it to state for the 200m in track....

Anyway one of my best friends committed suicide he was also my weightlifting partner, therefore I kind of fell off the wagon, stopped lifting and exercising and started dieting horribly, at my worst I was 215lbs, all fat and lost a lot of muscle. That was about a year ago, now I'm down to 185lb again, but I'm still a lot smaller and softer than when I was in high school.

My first goal right now is to stay at about 185lbs, only drop my body fat percentage down back to where I was in high school(by gaining muscle and losing fat) then hopefully have an MMA fight this summer or fall at 170lbs and then start building muscle again so I can walk around at about 200lbs and cut down and fight at 180lbs.

My ultimate goal in life has always been to fight MMA professionally at some level as it's always been something I've been naturally good at(Wrestled since I was 5, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Blue Belt in 9 months, and I'm a very well rounded striker; trained in boxing and muay thai)

Anyway, enough of the wall of text, good luck to anyone else in this thread and I'll try and get some pics when my fiancee gets home

[SHIFT_Z]

Lookin' good LS13! Agreed- Cardio is a MUST must. You will get nowhere fast without it. If you do somehow, your endurance will fall far, far behind... I'd love to see some of the meat heads at my gym run a 5k in under 25 mins. Wouldn't happen.haha. Cardio is a mustHour a day, 7 days a week for me.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Since I have such a short period of time to get back into shape is it a good idea for me to practically live at the gym (ie several hours a day 5 or 6 days a week)? I know I'm going to be hurting and will want to put it off but at the very least I need to get some of this weight off of me and get my run times back down to an acceptable level.

Here's what I need for the PD PT test:Pushups - Minimum of 16 in 1 minuteSitups - Minimum of 26 in 1 minute1.5 Mile Run - 15:37 or faster300M Sprint - 70 Seconds or fasterVertical Jump 16" or Higher25% BFIMax weight of 209lbs

Again I probably have 4-6 weeks to get to this from what I am now, which is far from this, I wasn't expecting to have to deal with this until early to mid April unfortunately they have upped the time table so I'm really stressed about this. I need this to be a 1st time go. Will be going to join a gym sometime this weekend once the roads are clear and some of this snow is gone.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

I will LOL at you loving creatine just as much as you LOL at my liking to preworkout boosters. There's arguments to both sides for creatine as well, but like your opinions of NO boosters, you're only looking at one side as you ride the hate wagon. (that is, you've found a cost effective supplement that works for you.) Has creatine worked for you? Thats great. Re-read my post.

Never got that email about your blood work.

[SHIFT_Z]

Sarcasm?

Heh. Don't worry bub, you'll catch on sometime. Nutritionally and otherwise.

[RobPaulson]

I think we can all agree on the following:

1. Establish a routine before you introduce supplements2. Young'ns need to be even more careful when using sups, consult a doctor.3. Creatine helps to increase strength gains and recovery time.4. Energy boosters give you energy.5. Everyone wastes money on unnecessary supplements.

aannnddddd lets move on from that argument mmkay? this is a productive thread, all advice is given and taken with a grain of salt.

In other news, 4 days into p90x and i've gained 5lbs... i am now 200lbs. wut? I am a bit concerned because my goal is to lose weight. I understand the hole muscle weighs more than fat thing, and that i have most likely put on 5lbs of muscle here (or just a really big crap). But thats not what I want, I want to tone up, and cut down.

Currently I do my workout followed by one scoop of nitro-tech hardcore and a scoop of casein/whey/soy protien mixture (it has all 3). I eat a relatively lean diet, small meals/snacks 5-6 times a day. anyone got any pointers for me? or reassurance that its normal to gain weight at the beginning of a routine like p90x?

200lbs and 5'6 is just unacceptable, idc how strong i look

[Griz]

1991ls13

You are my goal. I dont want to be HUGE and ripped, but I want a little more than usual. Your size it what I want to see in the mirror on myself, thats my goal. Thank you for posting!

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Sarcasm?

Heh. Don't worry bub, you'll catch on sometime. Nutritionally and otherwise.

So, you called me out about blood work but aren't going to deliver?

How about YOU go get some blood work done and if there's a noticeable change in an agreed-upon characteristic, I'll cover the cost of the test and buy you a bottle of Maker's Mark. If not you eat the cost of the test and some humble pie.

If you're truly as confident as you claim, you'll get a free verification and a 1.5L of some of the best widely available bourbon made.

[rc1honda]

What's a good supplement then? Im looking for lean muscle size/strength gain, not weight loss, or any full body mass gain. Just something for lean muscle gain. I work out an hour in the am and an hour in the pm if that makes a difference...

Isopure. By ther Natures Best Co.http://www.naturesbest.com/

They are a great company with great products. Thier protein and creatine are awesome. They use pure produts and everything in them are transparent and they do what they say they should.

I agree about the NOXplode, I use just pure creatine monohydrate. Gives the extra pumpo and you don't lose 10 lbs when you stop taking it. NOX has a bad crash result, and it stops working after a couple of weeks. Well at least for me.

[SHIFT_Z]

So, you called me out about blood work but aren't going to deliver?

How about YOU go get some blood work done and if there's a noticeable change in an agreed-upon characteristic, I'll cover the cost of the test and buy you a bottle of Maker's Mark. If not you eat the cost of the test and some humble pie.

If you're truly as confident as you claim, you'll get a free verification and a 1.5L of some of the best widely available bourbon made.

k, playtimes over.

You mean, called you out on pure sarcasm, and am choosing to move on with my life? Yeah. That'd be it.

Confident as I claim? I'm not going to waste my time trying to impress someone that I instantly have minimal respect for in the first place. I might have approached your catchy 1-liner disapproval of a supplement DIFFERENTLY, however the pure uneducated nature of it was enough for me to skip the foreplay. Oh, and disregard the fact that thousands upon of thousands of people have seen results from said product. Clearly they're all idiots, like me.I never 'claimed' solid knowledge as to the inner workings of the human body and supplementation as you have.See if you can answer any of these: Are you a bio chemist? (Meaning you're educated [with at least your Masters or Doctorate] and have active field-work and experience dealing with muscle synthesis and body building?) No, you're not.Are you a bodybuilder? (Meaning that you've competed and are ranked, or at least credited and recognized for your hard work and knowledge of the sport?) No, you're not.

Well what do you have? Ah, of course. What every internet-genius has. Google, wakopedia, and at least 1 finger. I could flex my internet nuts all day long and fire back with the never-ending supply of ammo that is the internet, too. But, rest assured I wisely spend my time elsewhere.

If you're really that desperate for attention, stand outside a GNC and tell every person that walks towards the front door that they're a moron, then take your printed-out internet pages and begin to babble your Nostradamus-crippling wisdom. Or go correct everyone's form in the gym, I'm sure you'd be an instant favorite. Well wait, you've got a fear of remaining completely anonymous, although you're fowling up a tight knit community in which people have met and had a great time.. IN PERSON! (DUN DUN DUNNNN)

All I did was share a personal story of something that worked for me. You probably should have done the same, but instead chose to stink up the thread. Well played.

Try sticking to the thread guidelines and save your crap-a** commentary for Xbox live.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

MMMM... Maker's Mark. Too bad you aren't going to get any.

Where's your degree in biochemistry? Results of body building competitions (a poor indicator, those dudes are on more than powdered marketing) ?

Oh wait. You don't have one. All you have is a logical fallacy that because you took something and then worked out and then got results, it works. This morning I brushed my teeth and took a huge dump. I think toothpaste makes my s***s bigger! Oh wait. Maybe eating makes my s***s bigger and toothpaste just gives me sparkly teeth and minty-fresh breath.
Modified by charlieo at 4:14 PM 2/11/2010

[SHIFT_Z]

Meh. I'll stick with my Johnny Walker Black Label and call it a day.

"Logical fallacy" would only begin to describe your *know it all's* on the subject.

Go ahead and blast your Google M16 all over the place. At the end of the day, you're still just... not quite there yet.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Meh. I'll stick with my Johnny Walker Black Label and call it a day.

A scotch whisky drinker? No wonder you're such a d!ck.

You go ahead and blast your anecdotal M9 all over the place, but don't do it and pretend it's better logic. At the end of the day you've presented no empirical evidence.

[SHIFT_Z]

I don't pretend anything, you 'tard. Ever heard the term 'The weights don't lie?" Think about it.All I did was share that I got definitive results, and a supplement helped me get there.

Everything that you post comes from an empty void that you call intelligence. You're the one preaching rights / wrongs, do's / don'ts, and will work / will fail's.Lets see you lay down the chemistry. Elate us with your genius.

[TroubleBound]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4i8SpNgzA4Gyme? Whats a gyme? Ohhh, a gyme!

Heh i am satisfied with the little bit of muscle i have built up in my daily activities. It is enough to get the wrench turned and the pickle jar open, i don't really run into problems because of lack of strength. I am 135lbs of fury and i get to use all that time you guys spend at the gym collecting nose hairs so one day i can knit my grandmother a sweater.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

I don't pretend anything, you 'tard. Ever heard the term 'The weights don't lie?" Think about it.All I did was share that I got definitive results, and a supplement helped me get there.

Everything that you post comes from an empty void that you call intelligence. You're the one preaching rights / wrongs, do's / don'ts, and will work / will fail's.Lets see you lay down the chemistry. Elate us with your genius.

Sure. You give me your blood. We'll look for elevated HGH levels, as AAKG claims to be able to do. I'm not even going to bother with the outlandish claim that elevating nitric oxide levels does jack s***. When we DON'T find such things, well then, the weights may not have lied, but they sure as hell got misinterpreted.

Plus you really want me to what, link you medical studies? Doesn't that fall under your giant Google umbrella? I'd take my own blood, but NO products are on Flight Med's s*** list, and we're banned from taking them. Plus I sampled BSN's version of such in college and was less than impressed. So we're left with your blood and your flawed interpretation of gym results. I'll take your blood, as you suggested.

[AppleBonker]

Love the idea of this thread. I'm in. Little bit of background - I left college at a nice 240 or so pounds and decided to lean out and build some muscle. Just got a new job and relocated, so I've lost some of the gains I made over the previous 3 years. At one point I was down to about 188 and probably a shade over 10% body fat.

Now, I'm 6' and sitting at 197 or so pounds (and likely closer to 16% body fat - lost some muscle too). I don't use the scale much to gauge anything (since muscle is more dense than fat). I just check how I look in the mirror. I want to get back down to around 188 pounds and near that 10% body fat mark (but I'm not about to have myself dipped, so I again will be estimating). I will hopefully achieve better definition and a bit more vascularity. I'm going to hopefully use this thread to motivate myself to get back into shape before the summer (and beach) hits.

I'm back at the gym and getting back into cardio in the mornings, but after taking about 1.5 months off from the gym, I am incredibly sore. Rest time between trips has been lengthened to aid in recovery, and I will soon (hopefully) be back to 3-4 days on followed by one day of rest. Good luck to everyone trying to get fit!

I also want to basically agree with everything ls13 said. Definitely some good points in that post.

Edit: Also want to add that a good target for gaining muscle is getting calories in a 40/40/20 split of protein/carbs/(healthy) fats. Keep in mind that 1g of protein or carbs nets 4 calories and 1g of fat nets 9 calories. For protein I like chicken and tuna, as well as lean beef (I use ground sirloin if it is around 95% lean). Carbs I usually get from brown rice, enriched pasta and sweet potatoes (even though I can't stand the taste). Healthy fats can be obtained from EV olive oil and nuts. Just a few things I use. Also, since everyone's body is different, there is no one set way to make your diet and exercise work for you. Read up on the general rules and guidelines and adjust to what gives you results.
Modified by AppleBonker at 7:01 PM 2/11/2010

[SHIFT_Z]

Sure. You give me your blood. We'll look for elevated HGH levels, as AAKG claims to be able to do. I'm not even going to bother with the outlandish claim that elevating nitric oxide levels does jack s***. When we DON'T find such things, well then, the weights may not have lied, but they sure as hell got misinterpreted.

Plus you really want me to what, link you medical studies? Doesn't that fall under your giant Google umbrella? I'd take my own blood, but NO products are on Flight Med's s*** list, and we're banned from taking them. Plus I sampled BSN's version of such in college and was less than impressed. So we're left with your blood and your flawed interpretation of gym results. I'll take your blood, as you suggested.

Waah waaah waaaah.Being able to do more weight from your previous workout... isn't a misinterpretation. It's YOUR ignorance.I got results, you didn't. Wanna continue this, really?All I am reading is a lot of blah blah blah "I'm too swallowed in my own bastard ego to make a valid point or give credibility to anyone but myself." blah blah.Whys it so hard for you to understand that -If it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't.- Get over it.

As with.. well.. every post you've ever made up till now, I'll just go back to scrolling past them. Go play Sherlock Holmes / exercise your bane towards supplements with someone that gives a damn enough to entertain your self-righteousness.

[initial_jc]

this thread really blew up

so i guess ill join also

Im 5'11" I weigh in the high 180's trying to go down to 175.

I recently gained 30 lbs in the course of 1 year, mostly all went to my belly and upper torso level.

My goals are to lose the fat and tone up, increase my bench press and strengthen my core.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Waah waaah waaaah.Being able to do more weight from your previous workout... isn't a misinterpretation. It's YOUR ignorance.I got results, you didn't. Wanna continue this, really?All I am reading is a lot of blah blah blah "I'm too swallowed in my own bastard ego to make a valid point or give credibility to anyone but myself." blah blah.Whys it so hard for you to understand that -If it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't.- Get over it.

As with.. well.. every post you've ever made up till now, I'll just go back to scrolling past them. Go play Sherlock Holmes / exercise your bane towards supplements with someone that gives a damn enough to entertain your self-righteousness.

What happened to your chemistry talk? You're dodgy.

[Empty V]

Today's CrossFit Workout

Peak Vertical Jump Record - We stacked up boxes and weights to achieve maximum height. I topped out at a very low 33", one dude set our CrossFit center record @ 49"

WarmupRow 500mJumprope 3min2 Rounds of 10 Pushups, 10 Squats, 10 Pullups

WOD - Workout of The Day21*15*9 for time (21 reps of each, 15 reps of each then 9 reps of each)Box Jumps - Jump from standing position to the top of a 28" wooden box fully extend the body into proud positionWall Balls - Throw a 20lbs medicine ball 10 vertical feet while doing an air squatBurpees - Push-up then jump up straight into a jumping jack

I haven't worked out for 4 days and have eaten nothing but junk since superbowl so my time was horrific @ 18min. MY goal is to get that down to 9 min in the next 6 months.

[nissangirl74]

Currently I do my workout followed by one scoop of nitro-tech hardcore and a scoop of casein/whey/soy protien mixture (it has all 3). I eat a relatively lean diet, small meals/snacks 5-6 times a day. anyone got any pointers for me? or reassurance that its normal to gain weight at the beginning of a routine like p90x? 200lbs and 5'6 is just unacceptable, idc how strong i look

Maybe you should use a tape measure instead of a scale. That way you could concentrate on gaining / losing inches instead of pounds.

[Empty V]

Maybe you should use a tape measure instead of a scale. That way you could concentrate on gaining / losing inches instead of pounds.

This is really a great idea especially if you're doing a lot of weight training. I'm sure almost everyone could use more muscle and lose fat. Weight loss is the wrong way to gage how fit you are becoming. I've only lost 7lbs in the last month but I'm getting lots of compliments about looking skinnier. My uneducated guess is that I've lost 14lbs of fat and gained 7lbs of muscle.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

I had a very angry workout tonight and feel pretty good.

I told Noah I wanted to punch a midget in the face.

I'll probably work out again tomorrow morning before kicking off the weekend festivities.

[marlin29311]

I pulled my upper abdomen. This sucks

Lookin' good LS13! Agreed- Cardio is a MUST must. You will get nowhere fast without it. If you do somehow, your endurance will fall far, far behind... I'd love to see some of the meat heads at my gym run a 5k in under 25 mins. Wouldn't happen.haha. Cardio is a mustHour a day, 7 days a week for me.

I don't agree with the every day cardio. I agree with up to 5 times a week, but you're not giving your body ample time to recouperate and rebuild what's been broken down in there. I know personally, as an advanced runner, if I ran every day during the week for an hour I would be pushing an injury like whoa.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Now that Shift Z and Charlieo have b****ed at each other for 2 pages... Are you girls done fighting with each other?

Would someone please answer my question that I posted midway through the page before this one. I really need to know if what I what/have to do is attainable is such a short period of time of if I will just wind up doing more harm than good.

Also when measuring your standing jump height dose this mean that you measure with legs extended or are your legs in a crouch position (like if you were to jump over a hurdle)? What muscles do you work to attain a high standing jump (calves, thighs, ect).

Finally I know when training to run a timed distance it's better to just go out and run twice what you need to run and attain the time you need (in my case 1.5 miles in 15 min would be 2-3 miles in 15 min). But if all you have is a treadmill (3.5' of snow and stupid cold temps outside is keeping me from running) how do you train for a timed run since a treadmill doesn't give you same resistance or stress as running on concrete or around a track?

[ProudNissanFreak]

Ah, what the heck, I'll join in.

5'7/128 lbs/Build up more biceps and abs

My workout as of recent:- 8 minutes stretching/warming up- 20 mins on Bowflex- 10 mins on jump rope- 15 mins martial arts training

I'll be starting parkour again when the weather warms up, so that'll help

[ThatGuyRoger]

whats the time frame when you have to do your timed run?

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Since I have such a short period of time to get back into shape is it a good idea for me to practically live at the gym (ie several hours a day 5 or 6 days a week)? I know I'm going to be hurting and will want to put it off but at the very least I need to get some of this weight off of me and get my run times back down to an acceptable level.

Here's what I need for the PD PT test:Pushups - Minimum of 16 in 1 minuteSitups - Minimum of 26 in 1 minute1.5 Mile Run - 15:37 or faster300M Sprint - 70 Seconds or fasterVertical Jump 16" or Higher25% BFIMax weight of 209lbs

Again I probably have 4-6 weeks to get to this from what I am now, which is far from this, I wasn't expecting to have to deal with this until early to mid April unfortunately they have upped the time table so I'm really stressed about this. I need this to be a 1st time go. Will be going to join a gym sometime this weekend once the roads are clear and some of this snow is gone.

Since it got lost in the b****fest between ShiftZ and Charlieo I quoted what I posted earlier. I have 4-6 weeks to go from relatively out of shape to pass PT test trim. I know it's of relevance I smoke roughly 1/2 a pack a day Camel Wides. I haven't really run since probably October 08.

[ThatGuyRoger]

since you're stuck indoors with a treadmill, a good idea would to alternate running speed, for instance:

starting off with a jog for 1 minute then raise the speed so you're running at full speed for about another minute. then go back to your normal jogging pace .since you're beginning again and have a short amount of time, its good to go about 5-7 minutes the first couple of times, then increase the run time by a minuteso week 1 you go for 7 minutesthen week 2 increase to 8 and so onyou do that specific work out at least twice a week

its good to get a three mile run in the week too

as for gym time, a good leg/core work out should help you increase your run time as well.

squats, lunges, calf raises, leg extensions, deadlift, hanging leg raise, reverse crunch, plank

as for sit ups and push up, you should do a high intensity work out practicing those and training those specific muscles. like doing a round of push ups, sit ups until failure, then rest and repeat for a few more rounds