Fitness thread anyone?

[AZhitman]

C, you need to not stress over it.

You DON'T need to gain weight - Hell, your skeleton is still growing.

Just eat healthy and stay active - You've got another 15 years before your metabolism starts kicking your a$$.

[Dire91]

Griz I'm 6'5" by the way

[nissangirl74]

I need to gain weight. I mean, will eating healthier foods with the same amount of calories help me gain weight faster?

If you eat the same amount of calories, you will gain the same amount of weight, regardless of where the calories come from. The benefit of eating healthy is the fact that there won't be any high blood pressure, diabetes, or cholesterol issues.

[Griz]

C, you need to not stress over it.

You DON'T need to gain weight - Hell, your skeleton is still growing.

Just eat healthy and stay active - You've got another 15 years before your metabolism starts kicking your a$$.

Thats where i'm coming from too. Im 20 years young, 6'2" and only 150, but as we speak im finishing demolishing this frozen pizza debating whether to make a sandwich to go with it. I fear the day my metabolism turns against me

My main goal is to actually get some muscle. My entire life ive been tall and lanky and have always been told by girls "Omggggg your like sooo skinny" like I haven't ever noticed it.

So instead of letting the magnetic couch pwn my steel a$$ I made this thread to basically have some workout buddies/get other people off the couch too Ill be plenty happy with some slightly bigger arms, and making my ribs not show! Like someone said earlier in the thread "im not going for that meathead body builder look, just more definition"

[SHIFT_Z]

If you eat the same amount of calories, you will gain the same amount of weight, regardless of where the calories come from. The benefit of eating healthy is the fact that there won't be any high blood pressure, diabetes, or cholesterol issues.

The benefit of eating healthy comes a lot from your body's ability to break down what you put into it. If you're consuming a lot of trans-fats, sugar-heavy, processed, etc. foods, its tough on your body to be able to break those sources down to usable energy.. making it MORE likely to be stored as fat.Foods from fruit, vegi, and whole wheat sources are much easier on your insides, and provide more ready-to-use energy and generally make you feel better and less sluggish- in turn enabling you to be more active for longer amounts of time.

Edit: the principals remain the same though. Calories consumed < Calories burned, you lose weight. Vice versa for gaining weight. The way you consume those calories makes a huge difference upon reaching your goal, in either direction.

[Griz]

Anyone had any experience with this stuff?

http://www.gasparinutrition.co....aspx

They claim some pretty quick results but idk... Id rather hear it from someone with person experience with it before i spend $40 on it.

[ThatGuyRoger]

im currently taking Atro-Phex and Syntha-6

[Griz]

Syntha 6 is awesome stuff, my father uses that, what is Atro-Phex?

[ThatGuyRoger]

its another BSN product, used for weight management, energy and focus

[SHIFT_Z]

Anyone had any experience with this stuff?

http://www.gasparinutrition.co....aspx

They claim some pretty quick results but idk... Id rather hear it from someone with person experience with it before i spend $40 on it.

I'm just finishing a tub of it in the next few days. I prefer N.O. Xplode 10> 1 over it, for sure. Maybe it's just because I've used Xplode for so long, but I figured I'd try and switch it up and possibly see better results.

ALSO, different supplements work better / worse for different people... this is just my personal experience. Should you decide to try it, don't pay $40 for it. I've seen it for less than $30 a tub.

[Griz]

Did you see the the claimed "visible results in one work out" or no?

[Urabus GodofTraction]

NO Xplode is fool's money ground up into a powder with an assload of caffeine.

[SHIFT_Z]

NO Xplode is fool's money ground up into a powder with an assload of caffeine.

No, it's not.

Even if it is more of a mental thing, I'm not going to get really hyped and focused about going into the gym after eating or drinking anything else.

[SHIFT_Z]

Did you see the the claimed "visible results in one work out" or no?

No. But I'm used to taking pre-workout supplements. Maybe I missed something? Who knows. I just know I don't like it.

[Griz]

NO Xplode is fool's money ground up into a powder with an assload of caffeine.

What's a good supplement then? Im looking for lean muscle size/strength gain, not weight loss, or any full body mass gain. Just something for lean muscle gain. I work out an hour in the am and an hour in the pm if that makes a difference...

[SHIFT_Z]

It takes time, devotion, self discipline, and patience.

Nissangirl is right, its a lifestyle change. I'm thinking if putting on mass is your #1 right now, you will need to focus on your diet a lot more. Simply put: eat more. You need a high protein, and a moderate carb diet. (More carbs in the AM / before a workout... more protein for recovery and supplemented in for small meals if need be.)

[Urabus GodofTraction]

No, it's not.

Even if it is more of a mental thing, I'm not going to get really hyped and focused about going into the gym after eating or drinking anything else.

Mixing No-Doz and Gatorade powder would be cheaper and just as effective. But when it boils down to it whatever gets a person into the gym...

What's a good supplement then? Im looking for lean muscle size/strength gain, not weight loss, or any full body mass gain. Just something for lean muscle gain. I work out an hour in the am and an hour in the pm if that makes a difference...

A clipboard and a plan.

I'm going to disagree with SHIFT's carbs in the AM comment, but you're going to need to do some trials to see if how your body functions. Most Europeans (aka whitey) do much better with limited carb intake in the morning. I know I feel and perform best with eggs and fruit in the morning.

[Griz]

I get sick if I have more than like, 1 egg so thats out but Im down for fruit. Anything else you would suggest. I have no allergies other than Limes, which whoop my a** and put me in the ER.

[SHIFT_Z]

Mixing No-Doz and Gatorade powder would be cheaper and just as effective. But when it boils down to it whatever gets a person into the gym...

Get me in the gym? haha. Again, no. You're clearly among the anti-supplement crowd. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't.You're not a chemist, and you sure as hell haven't tried every FOOD SOURCE and every SUPPLEMENT SOURCE as to a pre-workout meal / boost to be able to conclusively state "It doesn't work." Or even more ridiculous- "go crush up some caffeine pills and put them in a tasty beverage. That'll work." Please. Be my guest- I'll send you some bloodwork and you can get in the lab and brew me up some evidence that N.O. Xplode doesn't work for me, or anyone.

I'm going to disagree with SHIFT's carbs in the AM comment, but you're going to need to do some trials to see if how your body functions Most Europeans (aka whitey) do much better with limited carb intake in the morning. I know I feel and perform best with eggs and fruit in the morning.

Sigh.Don't denounce what I say while contradicting yourself, you're going to confuse the hell out of the kid.What do you think fruits are? Those are almost completely carbs, while also vitamin rich.

Not trying to come off as a d!ck, but people that say "It doesn't work." or "You're wasting your money." kinda piss me off. For me: it does work, I have gains from the gym on paper that say so.

Rather, I would suggest you just say "I don't like the stuff, heres what I do..."

[Griz]

....you're going to confuse the hell out of the kid...

yeah...that

[PEZi]

while we're talking supplements.... i use GNC's Amplified Wheybolic Extreme 60.... been using it for about 3ish months... basically since i started working out again and the results are great thus far... i use 3 scoops mixed with milk post workout

[ThatGuyRoger]

I get sick if I have more than like, 1 egg so thats out but Im down for fruit. Anything else you would suggest. I have no allergies other than Limes, which whoop my a** and put me in the ER.

how about scrambled egg whites?

[Griz]

Ill try that in the morning and see if that upsets my stomach.

[nissangirl74]

For those of you wanting to gain weight and take the REALLY cheap way out... take calf starter. Uber cheap and it works really well.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Get me in the gym? haha. Again, no. You're clearly among the anti-supplement crowd. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't.You're not a chemist, and you sure as hell haven't tried every FOOD SOURCE and every SUPPLEMENT SOURCE as to a pre-workout meal / boost to be able to conclusively state "It doesn't work." Or even more ridiculous- "go crush up some caffeine pills and put them in a tasty beverage. That'll work." Please. Be my guest- I'll send you some bloodwork and you can get in the lab and brew me up some evidence that N.O. Xplode doesn't work for me, or anyone.

You're clearly wrong.I'm a proponent of plain ol' $15 for 500 servings creatine.I'm anti-supplement for beginners crowd. I'm also anti-NO Xplode. Arginine has never been proven to make the least bit of difference in strength. Not to mention, NO products are expressly banned by Flight Meds all over the AF. Yeah, let's shovel that into our bodies. But like I said, whatever gets somebody in the gym. And don't get your panties in a wad about it getting YOU to the gym. Maybe you have the motivation to go as is, but maybe for somebody else spending $30 on a bottle is motivation enough. Get my point? But by suggesting it to somebody just starting out is effectively wasting their money. Wasting money.

Sigh.Don't denounce what I say while contradicting yourself, you're going to confuse the hell out of the kid.What do you think fruits are? Those are almost completely carbs, while also vitamin rich.

Not trying to come off as a d!ck, but people that say "It doesn't work." or "You're wasting your money." kinda piss me off. For me: it does work, I have gains from the gym on paper that say so.

Rather, I would suggest you just say "I don't like the stuff, heres what I do..."

Fine. Processed carbohydrates, complex. Grains, wheats, breads, etc. Most people don't realize how poorly they process them and would be wise to try cutting them out of their morning meals.

Also, email me for my address and you can ship me vials to get tested. Or I'll settle for scans of the bloodwork you've had done.

WHAT I STRONGLY SUGGEST, is that any beginner establish a solid habit pattern of exercise before dabbling in the snakeoil that is fitness supplements. I'd also STRONGLY SUGGEST that they never set foot in a GNC or the like.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE that when someone credits a supplement for gains they're selling themselves short. That's why it's a supplement, to supplement a good plan.

[Griz]

...I'd also STRONGLY SUGGEST that they never set foot in a GNC or the like...

Lol ^ I just got a job at "Vitamin World" which is basically a GNC-just a different corp. Ill get 40% off anything.

[RobPaulson]

WHAT I STRONGLY SUGGEST, is that any beginner establish a solid habit pattern of exercise before dabbling in the snakeoil that is fitness supplements. I'd also STRONGLY SUGGEST that they never set foot in a GNC or the like.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE that when someone credits a supplement for gains they're selling themselves short. That's why it's a supplement, to supplement a good plan.

yar. i support this set of ideals 100%.

[SHIFT_Z]

You're clearly wrong.

For everything that I've said regarding myself, no I'm not.

I'm a proponent of plain ol' $15 for 500 servings creatine.

I will LOL at you loving creatine just as much as you LOL at my liking to preworkout boosters. There's arguments to both sides for creatine as well, but like your opinions of NO boosters, you're only looking at one side as you ride the hate wagon. (that is, you've found a cost effective supplement that works for you.) Has creatine worked for you? Thats great. Re-read my post.

I'm anti-supplement for beginners crowd. I'm also anti-NO Xplode. Arginine has never been proven to make the least bit of difference in strength. Not to mention, NO products are expressly banned by Flight Meds all over the AF.

So what? There are studies on every supplement that argue both sides of the fence. Quit being a hater and accept that some things work and some don't. Everyone's different.

And don't get your panties in a wad about it getting YOU to the gym. Maybe you have the motivation to go as is, but maybe for somebody else spending $30 on a bottle is motivation enough. Get my point? But by suggesting it to somebody just starting out is effectively wasting their money. Wasting money.

He's the one that asked about it up front numb nuts, I didn't go promoting it in his face. I'm WITH you as to not taking something like that if you're a beginner, but maybe he did his homework and wants to try it? Or maybe he's got some time in the gym under his belt and is just sending out some feelers on NICO to see what others have tried? Sweet Baby Jesus.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

I'm late to the party but I'll sign up for this, but I'm not posting a picture, camera's are the devil and they steal a piece of your sould everytime your picture is taken (in reality I don't think any of you want to see my ugly mug or my spare tire.)

I'm 6' 1 1/2" 245-250lbs my goal is to get back to 200lbs with >25% BFI. I need to start training stupid hardcore for a variety of PT tests and to prep for the WTC (Warrior Training Center) and the police academy. I will probably have my first PT test in 4-6 weeks for the NCCo PD.

[1991ls13]

this is just to proove a point, ive been debating on this thread hearing some funny and good stuff, but ill put in my two cents.

imo i`ve Actually been working out for a few years now and summers are always easier to get into shape. i`ve tried lots of shakes etc besides testy boosters and creatine(not a good way to go)

what made me cut up alot from my senoir year (6` and 205) to now and the past year or so (now usually 180-190) is eating just a little bit better but hittin the gym alot, cardio is a must....my point is SWEAT. if your not sweating your not doin it right lol. always allow time to rest 2 days a week, but people that say you only need 20 mins 3 days a week are as smart a my shoe. yes that may work for super over weight people(300lb) but not for most of use trying to cut 20-30 pounds, and keep a good muscle tone.

just to show that i know what imtalking about here is a recent pic of me.

just did my fat % and everything at the gym so its pretty spot on.

6`1908.9% body fat

i think a diet of a max should be 2000 cal, no trans fat, low fat, low sugar and decent carbs, and the best shake combo to me is a good protein shake for while you workout till the end(which you`ll only sip through out the workuot and drink the rest after) but you should use a before supplement as well. a fat burner and energy booster that helps take in the protein, but the kind where you only take before a workout not everyday. also if serious about cutting down take a everyday morning vitamin that also help food craving and burn cal etcand try to keep in mind always what you eat, the point of getting cut and keeping muscle is buring more cal`s thatn you eat per day and getting plenty of Good protein, at least 50 after you work out

you proabbly wont seemuch difference but ill post up some after pics in a month or two from what i do, pill, shake combo and heavy to medium lifting and lots of cardio in between.
Modified by 1991ls13 at 9:31 AM 2/11/2010