Project "Baller"

Post by **themadscientist** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:48 pm

My cams are only 264 but they are 9.5 lift. It is my hope that that lift, combined with the manifold will allow a slightly larger than streetable turbo act proper at cruising speed and still move plenty of air at full scream. I am not building a dyno queen nor a true race car so I need some responsiveness but on those rare occasions when I find a soda can driver with an attitude next to me I would like to know I can slap that smile off his face with relative ease if I chose to.

Post by **zero_gripS13** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:56 pm

lots of lift short duration makes for good cam from my research :P hope it works well...

Post by **meminto** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:02 pm

Cheers for that, but I dont use a T based flange, so I am unsure if your example applies.

Its a mitsubishi flange...

Post by **themadscientist** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:06 pm

I have these sitting on the shelf frustrating me. Too small for my power goals one by one but just rediculous like this!

Post by **hydra** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:38 pm

Meminto, I know that you're using a Greddy T67 turbo, my whole point was that you don't need to know the A/R of your turbine housing since you already have the "A" handy... Once again, turbine nozzle area is a much more meaningful indicator than A/R...

As an aside, what turbine wheel have you got in there? TD06, TD06H, TD06SL2, etc..? (is it the 61mm inducer turbine wheel, 65mm, or 67mm?)

Post by **meminto** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:02 pm

Looks like 61mm from the verniers..

The compressor exducer is 78mm....
Modified by meminto at 8:41 PM 1/25/2009

Post by **bentvalves** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:50 am

glad you see it as that.

If I came across wrong, my apologies as well. I really dont think I did though, and it was a valid enough point for you to salvage an old knackered pulley in the oven....I got you thinking, and thats what these boards are all about, right?

what has me most excited about this build is the RB inake/exhaust valves, Im really excited to hear this motor.

Website · Post by **1.8turboterror** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:35 pm

Wats up bro I jus love your engine build, If you could tell me what valve retainers you are running. and also wat type of cams and their specs thank you mucho mucho. and where I could purchase these retainers;)

Post by **meminto** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:11 pm

I use supertech RB25 Titanium Retainers... For peoples benefit, here are some measurements..

Diameter:

Stock = 26.83mmSTRB25 = 27.34mm

Height:

Stock = 7.54mmSTRB25 = 7.54mm

They also replicate the slight chamfer in the base, it would be difficult to get a photo it's that fine...

If you are looking at buying these, email the supplier first, when I bought these they were part of a kit and you couldn't buy them seperately...

Here are the photos, pretty obvious but... OEM brand new retainer on the left..

Website · Post by **1.8turboterror** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:26 pm

Thank you very much man . Did you order directly from supertech?

Post by **meminto** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:36 pm

Nah I bought mine online through ipp...

Post by **ser20det** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:00 pm

meminto wrote:I use supertech RB25 Titanium Retainers... For peoples benefit, here are some measurements..

Diameter:

Stock = 26.83mmSTRB25 = 27.34mm

Height:

Stock = 7.54mmSTRB25 = 7.54mm

They also replicate the slight chamfer in the base, it would be difficult to get a photo it's that fine...

If you are looking at buying these, email the supplier first, when I bought these they were part of a kit and you couldn't buy them seperately...

Here are the photos, pretty obvious but... OEM brand new retainer on the left..

So if i'm not wrong the rb25 retainer is for dual spring ? Do you think it's possible to install double spring and retainer on stock CA Valve ?

Post by **meminto** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:27 pm

Correctish, it's sold with the dual spring kit, but I dont see a problem if someone wanted to use the retainer on a stock spring/valve combo (although it probably wouldn't be warranted)..

However, to answer your question, it would be possible to use double spring with a stock valve, just make sure it's in good work condition... I really couldn't see a point of failure in doing so... However my spring seats are also the ones that come in the kit..

Here some more measurments for people of the valve spring, unfortunatley I don't have a brand new stock spring..

Diameter:

Stock = 26.86mmSTRB25 = 27.59mm

Height:

Stock = 43.15mmSTRB25 = 41.81mm

I know the coil bind on the dual spring is 14.1mm, I am unsure of the stock spring..

Modified by meminto at 11:45 PM 1/30/2009

Website · Post by **1.8turboterror** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:50 pm

What cams are you running in this motor? and what are theirs specs duration and lift?

Post by **meminto** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:13 am

The cams were made for my application..

I provided the info a couple of pages back, however:

Lift = 13.1mm (516 thou)Duration = 261*

If you are considering sticking with stock valves, you cannot obtain that lift height with a stock valve...

Post by **meminto** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:44 am

I am having a few delays whilst I settle into a new job, however I have dummied up a few more things..

You can see there is going to be a little interference with the water hose and the alternator. It looks worse than it is and I already have a solution...

Cheers

Website · Post by **1.8turboterror** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:38 am

O wow thats some serious lift. I really think you are going to making power past 9500 rpm my dude if you allow the tuner too take it up that high on the dyno i dont see why you wouldnt this engine is very thoroughly put together . quote( I will be happy to stay in the 81-8500rpm bracket, but 9000rpm, will be the highest I will allow...) What is going too be the intended use of this vehicle ? Just a sick as hell street car thats going to see the track occasionally or what?

Post by **meminto** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:06 pm

Street trim, with occasional meets, track days, jamboree's etc... more of a social thing rather than all out competitive...

Website · Post by **1.8turboterror** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:17 am

Im sure your car will be the center of attention at these meets wit ur set up for sure my dude.

Post by **meminto** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:10 pm

Not a great deal of progression this week, however I now have all the bits in at the fabricators to finish off. I have pulled apart the xf throttlebody to give it a good clean up, but need to have a couple of -10 bungs welded to it for the air regulator and IAA gear.

The throttle body itself looked like it had sat around for a while, there was a lot of grime on the butterfly plate, so I took to it with the buff lol... Buffing is something I seem to be getting quite good at now and have developed my own process...

Here are some before and after shots... I havent started on the tb itself, will do once the welding is finished off.

Enjoy...

Post by **themadscientist** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:37 pm

Hey, I can see myself in it, AHHHRGH

Post by **r34 gtr** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:50 am

Daaamn! I didn't know they could be so clean!

Post by **meminto** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:41 am

Neither did I.... I have never seen a throttlebody so filthy and built up with scale lol...

It was that smooth that it kept slipping out of hands on the buff and hitting the box behind the grinder lol... After two or three times of that I decided it was enough...

Post by **themadscientist** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:16 pm

OCD much?

Post by **r34 gtr** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:47 pm

themadscientist wrote:OCD much?

Coming from you that is hilarious.

Post by **BQ.05.TD** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:42 pm

hey mate where did you get that CAS bracket and the backing plate from? was it a guy on nissan silvia with a maroon 180is he still selling thesecheers justin

Post by **meminto** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:47 pm

Yeah his brother...

http://www.growly.com.au

Post by **themadscientist** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:52 pm

I don't see the gears in this pic listed on the site, what is the story on those?

I was enamoured with your CAS bracket but I thought a buddy made it one off for you. It never occured to me they were commercially available, now i want one!

Post by **meminto** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:54 pm

Manifold is finally on, bolted all up today..

I am going to polish the compressor housing, but wanted to get it all bolted up so I could continue on other things, I found some affordable wiggins type clamps for the intercooler pipework and the compressor housing inlet so I can start designing the dual z32 afm intake setup..

Not far off now, got a couple more things to do but should hopefully have the motor in the car by end of feb..

Post by **themadscientist** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:59 pm

I just noticed the housing says "performanced by trust".The Japanese never cease to amaze me. Check the english if you are going to actually cast something that says it!

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