CVT Rattle/Noise - Discussion Thread

[Pescakl1]

Could be the protective plate close to the brakes, especially if the noise increases with speed, and that it appears after the last service.

Go back to your service department and ask them to look for that, they may have bend it while servicing the car. It is a 5 minutes job to fix it.

[Goblin]

1125Altima3.5, Sorry to hear your Altima is giving you problems, but there is a lot of experience and wisdom to draw from in this thread to help you get through it.

Well said! I'm just glad others can benefit from our experiences.
Modified by Goblin at 8:23 AM 7/24/2009

[kcfm]

Well said! I'm just glad other can benefit from our experiences.

............and our $$$ losses.

[crypto1300]

Tire noise?

I thought that was the problem, but I can only hear the noise when the windows are all up & the radio off.

If I roll down the drivers side window I can't really hear it.

[crypto1300]

Could be the protective plate close to the brakes, especially if the noise increases with speed, and that it appears after the last service.

Go back to your service department and ask them to look for that, they may have bend it while servicing the car. It is a 5 minutes job to fix it.

It did appear only after the last service I had. I made an appointment to check it out.

[rougesucks]

the dealer and nissan are fully aware of the vibrations you are feeling.here is an article from the new york times http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03...?_r=1. NO CAR MANUFACTURE BUILDS A CAR WITH VIBRATIONS, they spend millions of dollars in nvh ( noise vibration and harshnes) testing, keep taking youre Rogue in to the dealer and then call nissan consumer affairs at (800) NISSAN-1 (or 800-647-7261)8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. and then contact your attorney general and then file a complaint with the nhtsa.gov and complain about the vibration. if you dont complain that wont fix the rouges vibration issue

[RogueGuy45]

the dealer and nissan are fully aware of the vibrations you are feeling.here is an article from the new york times http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03...?_r=1. NO CAR MANUFACTURE BUILDS A CAR WITH VIBRATIONS, they spend millions of dollars in nvh ( noise vibration and harshnes) testing, keep taking youre Rogue in to the dealer and then call nissan consumer affairs at (800) NISSAN-1 (or 800-647-7261)8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. and then contact your attorney general and then file a complaint with the nhtsa.gov and complain about the vibration. if you dont complain that wont fix the rouges vibration issue

This is off topic, but how can you register with a name like "Roguesucks" and expect to have open dialog about the car that 99% of us love?

[1125Altima3.5]

Update on my situation - Nissan has agreed to replace the CVT on my car. Hopefully this takes care of the problem!

............and our $$$ losses.

[silverboy]

Well said! I'm just glad others can benefit from our experiences.

Modified by Goblin at 8:23 AM 7/24/2009

Thanks Goblin.The stealership seen my Rogue today and agreed to replaced the transmission.They ordered it and will get it and few days. They will give me a rental and keep the Rogue for two-three days for the repair.I was looking into a new Outback, redesign but also comes w/ CVT.

I like the Rogue so we'll see.BTW, GO Nisaan in Westminster CO, were kool so we'll see what happens at the end. I'll keep you post.

[kerrton]

Since you got the dealership and Nissan USA to immediately acknowledge the problem and replace the CVT I'm sure you'll be ok, if you eliminate these troubles with dealership and Nissan in general you'd basically have very few complaints anywhere on this forum. I had my CVT replaced hassle free last year and the car just runs sweet and perfectly silent since then, and I expect to get 200,000 miles out of this transmission no problem provided I take care of it. Don't worry, you're on your way to being trouble free as with most Rogue owners. Just enjoy the ride!

[crypto1300]

It did appear only after the last service I had. I made an appointment to check it out.

I just got work from the dealer that my CVT transmission needs to be replaced.

[1125Altima3.5]

Update - CVT was replaced and the noise is gone.

[TheOriginalFreeride]

We have 27,000 on ours and it has started to make a light metallic clankey click sound at low speeds. Its not a big deal at all, just click..... click... and it doesnt do it very often. Almost sounds like something metal is hanging down and just tick, tick, clicking against a metal piece. There are no loose parts hanging though. Is this the same noise issue you speak of?

[whatmorecanyousay]

I did not determine that there was a transmission problem with the noise that sounded like something loose in the suspension. Nissan factory reps and service people made that assesment. At 16k miles I reported the noise at low speeds on a turn and 6 hrs latter the check engine light went on before I took the car in to tell of the sounds. The tech testing and talking to the Nissan people is what made the change to the transmission.

I personally praise Nissan and the dealer, for not strigging the customer along until breakdown. Mine was said to be a bearing slot that was out of spec. The new transmission was installed and the clacking noise was gone. In place of the clacking noise was a roaring low pitch gear whine and at 69 a high volume whine both under moderate load. The new replacement transmission was said also to be defective.

Again Nissan stepped up to the situation with resolve and is now installing the second replacement at 17k miles. Hopefully I will get back the car I purchased which my wife loves. I agree that the value and quiet ride of this AWD SL is terrific at this price point. No other complaints. I feel Nissan will resolve and this is a case of circumstances I have not experienced before. The Mfg is doing the job to fix the problem.

whatmorecanyousay

[TheOriginalFreeride]

Thats cool man. And comforting to know.I'd guess that the little noise we hear is nothing to worry about.Because it's been doing it for a long time and no dash warning lights have popped up.

[whatmorecanyousay]

I would suggest,Next time you take it to the dealer for service have them check the noise.Most dealers have read the bulletin and would determine if they need to hook up the computer trouble finder.

I have found that most Nissan shops are considerate and take customer concerns seriously. Ford is OK also, GM on the other hand, well!

whatmorecanyousay

[TheOriginalFreeride]

Thats a good thought.But we dont take it to the dealer for service.The thing is over a year old and has 27k on the odometer.I do all of the work on it myself because we cant afford to pay high dealer prices.So I'm thinking we'll just keep an eye on it, if necessary we will take it in for them to look at that issue.

[philipa_240sx]

Just doing some house cleaning.

I have renamed this thread the "CVT Rattle/Noise - Discussion Thread".

Please post your comments, experiences, etc here.

[whatmorecanyousay]

This is a follow up to my report end of June. My Rogue sits at the dealer and they have just determined along with the factory that my replacment transmission is defective also. A different problem from the rattle that started at 16k miles. This gear roar started right from the start of driving the replacment transmission. As sugguested I drove it east and returned after 1,000 miles and it was even more severe. When the service manager drove the car it was NOT a suttle sound at 25mph ,low roar. At 65 a loud whine.

Two things were possible. A gross misalignment of the rear drive transfer or a bad transmission. Apparently Nissan has specific markers and it is hard to do a gross install. The transmission was declared defective and will be replaced next week.

I will pick up the car the following week when I return from the beach. Will report back the final findings. I fully expect satisfaction. I purchased a fine car with passanger qualities and no abusive noises. Some purchase cars because of a specific ID noise like the whine of a blower. (the same sound I was getting from the second transmission)

Must say I am impressed by the Nissan dealer service department. I did NOT purchase my car from this dealer, and I am not sure if the dealer I purhased this car would have been as accomadating. (East Coast)

Again I will report back my sure success in a few weeks and rate the dealer and Nissan at that time with proper and official praise.

Expect the best. I was driving it with this car, for 16k miles before therattle and whine. Hope to get back to normal.

whatmorecanyousay

[Roguemeister]

This is off topic, but how can you register with a name like "Roguesucks" and expect to have open dialog about the car that 99% of us love?

actually go back and look at his handle again. His handle is rougesucks, so he/she doesn't like make-up, not our beloved Rogue's!!

[kanniballl]

-EDIT-

I answered my own question by looking at other threads.

I'm sorry to say that this is something that will kill my decision to get a Rogue. My last new car suffered from a problem that was a rare-yet-common problem, and that was a 2006 Cadillac. I wanted to go for something solid, or at least with any known problems easily fixable.

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Question, does this problem appear on the 09 Rogues at all?

I'm looking at getting an 09 SL AWD, but have a habit of getting the car on the lot with problems.

So far, glancing through the thread, I'm seeing people mention it on the 08 but haven't seen and 09 models listed.

So, is it present?
Modified by kanniballl at 6:28 PM 8/10/2009

[whatmorecanyousay]

hello, I would not kill your decision yet or to fast.Your correct it is hard to find a 2009 in this discussion.

This car has extreme value for the dollar (as long as you do not pay sticker)It rides tight with balance and has safe features no other car provides as part of the package. My wife loves the car because of the driver visualability is better than any car she has driven. The smooth performance of the transmission is not distracting to her which adds to the safe factor.

I never thought I would say that a smaller unit has roadability since I drive lux cars but it does, and you feel in full control at high speeds. Feels like your driving a larger car. The car has a high visual stance so it does not look small on the road.

The above reasons is why I am having so much patience with the resolving of the transmission problem. I just hope that they put an 09 transmission in this time? (my second replacement in 2 months) If anyone has the transmission part numbers for 09 and 08 difference It would be good to know. It should show on my repaire document when I pick up the car.

bob

[kerrton]

The weak CVT was limited to the 2008 model, that is documented to death on this forum with tons of detail.

Of course you'll still get very rare individuals with 09 transmission problems, but these rare occurances are typical of ALL vehicle manufacturers, they all have some part failures as nothing is 100 %. For example, I have a friend who bought an 08 Toyota RAV4, his transmission failed almost immediately and then the replacement failed too, he is now on his 3rd transmission and not happy with the vehicle. But, I would be wrong to assume that all RAV4's have defective transmissions because of this one incident, I would have to research the reliability of the RAV transmission and look at a large sample size, if I did this I'd probably discover a very small number of transmission failures and therefore conclude that it's a reliable vehicle. The same is true of the Rogue, if you want reliability and initial quality information regarding the 2009 Rogue, there are many sources such as the TrueDelta site which collects information directly from owners and is promoted on this site, and others like Consumer Reports - bottom line - the Rogue always rates "above average" in initial and predicted long term quality. Go check it out yourself, you'll discover that the Rogue is one of the most reliable in it's class, and if you read forums for competitors like RAV4, CRV, etc you'll see lots of reports of powertrain failures, lemons, and basically angry people who say "don't buy this vehicle" but the question is if they are representative of all owners or are they a very small minority. Check out Toyoto and Honda forums, you'll see nothing but negative problems but that doesn't mean you shouldn't buy the vehicle, people only report the bad stuff and all the happy owners are left out of the equation, and of course the same goes for the Rogue.

This is an awesome vehicle with excellent build quality, but don't take my word for it, do some research then decide what to buy, but don't base your decision on the postings of a very few dissastisfied people on the internet.

[paulvanharte]

Not sure if I totally agree with this. Just about every Nissan dealer I have dealt with over the last year( looking at Murano) have had CVT issues with several Rogues( not just one). Even my own dealer admits that they have replaced more CVT's than usual.We still love our Rogue, but I do believe, the issue is more widespread than just one or two. Even early 2009 suffered from this issue.

Paul

[kerrton]

Yeah I agree with Paul regarding the 08's and possibly some early 09's, but the CVT has been redesigned and no longer has the weakness that the previous 08 versions had.

[silverboy]

OK, here we go, I got the transmission replaced @ GO Nissan in Westminster CO.They kept the Rogue for two days, paid for the rental and I was told that the new transmission is new('09). So far so good.I am still driving the Rogue seven or so days later and just want to make sure there will be no further problems before I give it to the wife.

The service tech was helpful and agreed right away in replacing the transmission, no hassles.

I like the Rogue and I think is good quality.I had some problems with an 07' Honda CRV and at the end just traded in for an 08' Honda Element. Both the CRV and E share the same transmission and I believe the same engine as well. Those two vehicles I believe are underpowered with that engine, the RPM used to go up so high when driving in the mountains. I drove the Rogue today @ a fast pace and the engine was nice and smoth along the CVT.

I'll keep you guys post.

[worldbikr]

forget the noise threads. what I want to know, philipa can you start a thread, is how many catastophic failures there have been where the rogue wont move at all. forget the noise - how many complete failures? I've got 51K miles and I hear all kinds of noises if the radio is not going.

[canadianrogue]

First time posting......Bought 08 Rogue sl AWD new in July 2008.........Rattling noise at slow speeds in parking lots etc as others have said. Started at around 2000 km. transmission replaced at 8000 km. (November 2008)....... (supposed to be a new 09 type). I noticed the noise (very very faint at first) right away......Noise was back as before or maybe a bit worse within 5000 km. Now have 24000 km on vehicle.........noise is very obvious at parking lot speeds etc. especially when warm from freeway driving. Haven't done anything about it as at least it isn't getting any worse and I've been to busy. Really hope this doesn't turn into a bigger problem. Aside from this I like the car. (Absolutely unbelievable in snow!!) Unfortunately, I can't recommend the car at this point because of this worrisome noise. I can't understand why NIssan can't be up front and issue a full status report to let us know what's going on here!

[williammoses]

Maybe they want to keep the matter a secret.

[Goblin]

Did you guys catch GMA this morning and the piece on Audi transmission failures. OMG! Audi refused to do anything until the news broke the story and then the NTHSA stepped in and ordered a recall. Audi's response was to recall only 2/3 of the affected vehicles and claims they are safe. The long and short of it is they completely loose power in traffic or when accelerating with the new Direct Gear Transmission. Anyhow, I figure if Audi won't recognize this as a serious safety issue after the media and NTHSA stepped in; well, there is no hope for Nissan.