Concealed Carry Handgun Ideas

[Urabus GodofTraction]

and getting a stainless steel piece

And make sure it is a high Chrome and Nickel stainless. You should NEVER used a blued weapon in a holster. Unless you really like the look of bare metal...

PMQ, flying in the face of the world's military and police...

Look, any carry weapon you wouldn't be ok with waking up one morning and finding someone had etched a bag of d!ck on the slide isn't carrying something you want to be carrying. A little holster rub? While not desirable and maintenance should be done to prevent, isn't a ZOMG NEVER thing. You're a weird one.

For the record, I have sold one carry gun (a PF-9) because of it's looks. But that was because of the huge, ugly gap in the slide.

[PoorManQ45]

PMQ, flying in the face of the world's military and police...

Look, any carry weapon you wouldn't be ok with waking up one morning and finding someone had etched a bag of d!ck on the slide isn't carrying something you want to be carrying. A little holster rub? While not desirable and maintenance should be done to prevent, isn't a ZOMG NEVER thing. You're a weird one.

That is just one of the weird things that annoys me. Kind of like people calling a Magazine a "clip".

Stainless versions are usually only a little more. Why not spring for it?

[Urabus GodofTraction]

PMQ, flying in the face of the world's military and police...

Look, any carry weapon you wouldn't be ok with waking up one morning and finding someone had etched a bag of d!ck on the slide isn't carrying something you want to be carrying. A little holster rub? While not desirable and maintenance should be done to prevent, isn't a ZOMG NEVER thing. You're a weird one.

That is just one of the weird things that annoys me. Kind of like people calling a Magazine a "clip".

Stainless versions are usually only a little more. Why not spring for it?

Maybe you want to save money. Maybe it's too flash. Maybe you like bluing. Maybe the company puts some fancy a** new coating on it that isn't bluing at all.

Certainly not NEVER BUY A BLUED CARRY GUN!!

[PoorManQ45]

Yeah, that was a little bold.

[Mr1der]

not getting stainless has big perks.

shooting a stainless gun under a bright sun can suck sometimes.

the glare it gives off has a lot more cons than not looking cool with a gun that has a nice melonite or ion bond finish.

that said, when I buy pistols, they're usually stainless (I like ballin' a** looking guns, it's my choice!)

[themadscientist]

It's all about the titanium coating.

[PoorManQ45]

shooting a stainless gun under a bright sun can suck sometimes.

I've had the same issue with some blued barrels. I think it depends more on if it's a matte or polished finish.

[Mr1der]

to a certain degree yeah, even a matte stainless can be distracting.

d!ck, whatever you get, make sure it's got a good set of night sights on it.

[PoorManQ45]

I was just looking at a "black stainless" winchester. I was really dull. Under the Metal Hadlides at the store it didn't have any direct reflection. The polished blue guns were actually pretty bad.

On that note, the dark stainless is extremely sexy!

[Mr1der]

eh...other than being stainless, that defeats the purpose of me wanting it.

most guns now come with very good finishes though. Usually melonite or better.

[dickie]

I think I have eliminated the Sig and the Nite Hawg, but I have added the CZ RAMI-P and USP compact (surprisingly can be found in my price range) to my list of guns to shoot. Thanks for the intelligent responses.

[fiznowler]

I have a CZ 83 .380, an Armalite AR and a S&W .38 special snub model 637. I prefer the .38 special is pretty damn hard to beat for ccw. It doesn't show at all with IWB holster. It is a snubby but It is still pretty damn accurate considering barrell length. As far as the 5 shot argument, a speed loader is about as fast as a magazine if you know how to use it. The .38 special with +p ammo has plenty of knock down power and with a revolver you know it isn't going to jam. Just my opinion, I know there are a lot of people who are way more concerned with being able to hold 17rds in the gun.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/022188630503.html

[Mr1der]

snubbies are great.

a .38 Special with good ammo is adequate.

I'm kinda partial to my little tank like Ruger Sp101 in 357 mag though...it's a lot heavier than that Smith however.

d!ck, I'd give the Springfield XD and some Glocks a good look too.

they're simple guns and pretty hard to tear up and will be great shooters as well.

most anything CZ makes is a great shooter.

[fiznowler]

I shot a ruger lcr at the range a couple weeks ago. I was really shocked that it didn't have a ton more recoil. I am not at all opposed to the polymer guns (actually prefer them) but it is a little wierd to get used to in a revolver. I have never shot a Sp101.

[snwbrdr435]

James he said those were out due to personal preference that is why i suggested the m&p

[Mr1der]

he needs to handle them more...I'd much rather get an XD9 subcompact then spend nearly twice that on an HK anything.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

and with a revolver you know it isn't going to jam.

Lies and falsehoods. Ever seen a revolver get its timing messed up? I have. You get grit NEAR that cylinder and you have a poorly designed bludgeon.

[Mr1der]

heh...to a point yeah

I've never seen a Ruger double action lose it's time though...I'm sure it's happened.

I've got a Smith and Wesson model 29 that needs an action job however because it's out of time...not a fun experience to find that out the hard way.

[PoorManQ45]

and with a revolver you know it isn't going to jam.

Lies and falsehoods. Ever seen a revolver get its timing messed up? I have. You get grit NEAR that cylinder and you have a poorly designed bludgeon.

that's definitely possible but that is one of the very few things that could go wrong with a revolver.

there are many more failure points on a semi-auto.

I have a night guard(think that's it) in 357. its a nice little gun. its been through heck and just keeps on shooting.

also, why does the OP want a semi-auto? I've always been of the thought that if you need more then six shots you're doing it wrong.

[Mr1der]

preferences. Semi's can be a little more comfortable to carry if you're doing inside the waistband...they're usually thinner overall...

there's pros and cons to either type of pistol.

me, I say buy all kinds of stuff! Think of them as different tools for different jobs which is all they really are.

d!ck, go to your local dealer right now and have them do an FFL transfer on this for you

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... /411539462

the 239 is a single stack version of the 229. Great pistols...easy to carry. that should hold 8+1 of .357 SIG

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... /411539458

This isn't a bad deal either. The DAK trigger isn't all that bad really...it's something I'd prefer to try before you buy though. That pistol also comes with 3 mags and night sights as any pistol for self defense should have.

I really like the .357 SIG caliber, it's just kinda pricey and a little harder to find than the big 3.

It lays down some good power and being a bottleneck, it's a pretty hard round to have feed problems with.

the 239, while I can shoot it well, works even better in the smaller hands (dunno if you have that issue or not) but it's a very comfortable and easy to control pistol. That's a price I doubt you'll ever beat on a new one.

Or you can spend a little more and get a .40 (this is the only caliber I've actually shot one in) 239 if you wish

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/pro ... s_id/29740

for a carry gun, it's hard to fault it.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Lies and falsehoods. Ever seen a revolver get its timing messed up? I have. You get grit NEAR that cylinder and you have a poorly designed bludgeon.

that's definitely possible but that is one of the very few things that could go wrong with a revolver.

there are many more failure points on a semi-auto.

I have a night guard(think that's it) in 357. its a nice little gun. its been through heck and just keeps on shooting.

also, why does the OP want a semi-auto? I've always been of the thought that if you need more then six shots you're doing it wrong.

In today's age, arguing the "points of failure" line for something so mechanically simple as, say, an XD is being a Luddite. Revolvers are sturdy, no doubt. But they simply aren't sturdier than, say, a Glock. As sturdy, maybe. But saying a revolver won't break is like saying not to buy a blued gun.

The whole "I'M A f***' TRAINED KILLER AND ONLY NEED 6 SHOTS" bravado kinda goes out the window when, say, the baddie is on drugs (just ask the British), or there's more than one. If I can get more rounds of similar power into an autoloaders, versus a revolver... well, I guess that's why I went with the 7+1 P3AT instead of some .38 snub nose. Or my PT111 with 12 rounds of the vastly superior 9mm. That's twice the rounds, and a good chunk more stopping power (http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm). And don't dare talk about snub-nose .357s, they're damn near useless at follow up shots. The .357 S&W Airweights were fracturing people's wrists, apparently (see Clint Smith).

Revolvers are neat, but they certainly don't deserve the halo some give them.

[Mr1der]

I'm a fan of my XD45 with 14 angry fatboys stuffed in it.

only downside is the big ol grip hanging off it. A good holster will hide it well though.

[PoorManQ45]

The whole "I'M A f***' TRAINED KILLER AND ONLY NEED 6 SHOTS" bravado kinda goes out the window when, say, the baddie is on drugs (just ask the British), or there's more than one. If I can get more rounds of similar power into an autoloaders, versus a revolver... well, I guess that's why I went with the 7+1 P3AT instead of some .38 snub nose. Or my PT111 with 12 rounds of the vastly superior 9mm. That's twice the rounds, and a good chunk more stopping power (http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm). And don't dare talk about snub-nose .357s, they're damn near useless at follow up shots. The .357 S&W Airweights were fracturing people's wrists, apparently (see Clint Smith).

Shove some double-taps or buffalo bores into a solid framed 357 and then talk about "just as much power". The only Auto-loader that is coming close is the 10mm, and you can't really find hot loads anymore...

But in general I agree with your points. Semi-autos have their place.

[Mr1der]

he was referring to .38 Special...

I'd prefer a small pocket 9 over a snubby in that regard too...which is why I have a Kahr PM9

pleasant gun to shoot...I need to finish the break in though.

[Mr1der]

BUMP

[PoorManQ45]

Alright, this is what you need!





It started as a 40s&w. The chamber was reamed to 10mm.

The spacer in the magazine was removed to hold 10mm rounds.

The slide spring was upgraded to reduce slide velocity.

This is how it's done!

[93coupe]

FNX40 seems to have everything you're looking for.

[tm1218]

OP, you said you were pretty much set on a beaver tail grip...

that is something you might want to throw out the window. what happens when you go to draw and you snag it. you're dead.

[snwbrdr435]

When i draw my hand in on the grip, even with a large beavertail i have never gotten hung up on anything.

[dickie]

OP, you said you were pretty much set on a beaver tail grip...

that is something you might want to throw out the window. what happens when you go to draw and you snag it. you're dead.

Care to describe what you mean? I have never had that issue and there isn't anything in my carry position for the gun to snag on...