Borg Cube vs The Death Star

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BusyBadger wrote:(and don't get into some semantic debate citing Endor as a moon).
It's not a moon. Endor's a planet. It is Endor's moon that the death star orbits. Where's YOUR geek status now?


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They never really had an official name for the moon now that I think about it...

Maybe it should be called "ewok".

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Also, it is not true that a satellite cannot have a satellite. If that reasoning were correct, planets could not have satellites, either, because their stars would steal them. Moons can have moons.

http://curious.astro.cornell.e...r=679

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Well, not a stable orbit anyway... but sure, I read the article and all.

Tidal forces. Endor was a big freaking planet, yes?

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Dattebayo wrote:It's a fact of physics that a moon cannot have a moon. The pull of the host planet is too great, a course correction would have to be made in order to fake an orbit like that.
So you're using physics in a sci-fi discussion (SW is more sci-fantasy)? I could understand invoking physics if you're talking about Star Trek as the franchise mentions various sciences frequently, but Star Wars ignores everything and just uses sci-fantasy as a setting and disregards the "messiness" of reality.

Next you'll mention ethics and politics in the same breath.
MinisterofDOOM wrote:It's not a moon. Endor's a planet. It is Endor's moon that the death star orbits.
Odd, the movie (Admiral Ackbar specifically) refers to it as the "forest moon of Endor", while even most SW geeks call it Endor. And while it is called a moon there is no planet shown in the movie but the novel (I've read it) mentions that the planet was actually destroyed. Furthermore, the Ewok TV series shows the moon orbiting a gas giant while the Ewok cartoon shows it orbiting a binary star. Clearly, even the Star Wars franchise can't get its story straight, is it any wonder why most Star Wars geeks simply refer to it as Endor.

In any case, don't grasp at straws and try to misdirect from your mistake with more semantics, you claimed it was built in deep space and didn't orbit anything.
MinisterofDOOM wrote: Where's YOUR geek status now?
Firmly in place between my comics collection and a box full of D&D books (1st Edition, of course).

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BusyBadger wrote:Odd, the movie (Admiral Ackbar specifically) refers to it as the "forest moon of Endor", while even most SW geeks call it Endor.
They're clarifying WHICH of Endor's moons they're referring to. Not the other moon, the forest moon. That's how I always took it anyway. How often do you use that kind of working for nomenclature? Do you say "That's the planet of Saturn." No. You say "That's saturn." But "That's the larger moon of Mars" would refer to Phobos as opposed to Deimos.

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I want to give this thread a wedgie for some reason....

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Sure you don't mean Wedge-ie?


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themadscientist wrote:I want to give this thread a wedgie for some reason....
swirlies are where it's at. right after you collect some lunch money.

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Wet-willie FTW.

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marlin29311 wrote:Wet-willie FTW.
lol my mom and i continue an on-going wet willie battle of biblical proportions. which reminds me, she hasn't been one-upped in some time now

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:
They're clarifying WHICH of Endor's moons they're referring to. Not the other moon, the forest moon. That's how I always took it anyway. How often do you use that kind of working for nomenclature? Do you say "That's the planet of Saturn." No. You say "That's saturn." But "That's the larger moon of Mars" would refer to Phobos as opposed to Deimos.
Sounds like we're on the same page. In the movie when Ackbar says "The forest moon of Endor" it sounds like the moon's name is Endor and he's using "forest" to describe the geography and climate. The only reason I knew the difference is because I had read the book before I saw the movie (yeah, I know - big geek).

Its like saying, "the volcanic moon of Jupiter" instead of just saying Io, but the thing is that someone could say "the volcanic moon of Io" and still be correct in a technical term based on how you interpret the word "of" whether "of" is used as "deriving or coming from" (meaning Jupiter) or "composed from" (meaning the volcanoes) .

Where's Bill Clinton when you need him? Oh, I know...still debating the meaning of the word "is".

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Ribbon-cutting ceremony at a new hooters in pasceloosa.

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The Great Wall of Semantics can't protect against the Mongolian Horde!

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So in a battle between Emperor Palpatine and Q who would win? Q is omnipotent and can only be destroyed by other Q's but at the same time Palpatine is a Sith Lord. The only reason Vader was able to take him down was by committing suicide in the process.

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charlieo wrote:The Great Wall of Semantics can't protect against the Mongolian Horde!
No, that's what my Western tactics are for.

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Chaotic_Warlord wrote:So in a battle between Emperor Palpatine and Q who would win? Q is omnipotent and can only be destroyed by other Q's but at the same time Palpatine is a Sith Lord. The only reason Vader was able to take him down was by committing suicide in the process.
Here's how that fight would play out:

The Emperor would pull out his light saber or raise his hands to use force lightning...

And then Q would snap his fingers (while yawning) and the Emperor would cease to exist.

Done.

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I'm so confused right now.


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you are bigger nerds than myself...not that there is anything wrong with that

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It's about time he sold that carcass. Maybe they can help make it not suck so much? And also include some sort of redeeming social and family message as well? LOL WAT

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I'm alright with the 7, 8 and 9 thing but they said after that there would be more films coming out every two to three years..

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The cube is pretty badass, but it wouldn't stand a chance vs the Deathstar.

Holy crap zombie thread. How did I miss this first time around? Or maybe I didn't lol.

I heard about the Lucasfilm sale this morning. I really hope this will finally mean a proper Blueray release of the original trilogy, remastered, but in full original versions, not the remade crap.

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More importantly, this will now be true:

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The implications are staggering. Now Disney may have to get rid of the brother-sister kiss. But at least Han gets to shoot first?


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