Borg Cube vs The Death Star

[Solar_Runner]

dispite the fact that my favorite military adviser is here, RIGHT NOW (Capt Morgan) I am not able to put down a real good answer, other than this:

The Death Star wins - either 1.0 or 2.0. My main reason for stating this is the DS ability to perform a 1 hit 1 kill with her main weapon. It will far overpower any shield that the Borg try to adapt to... which takes them 2 or 3 hits to overcome anyway... she's dead in space after the first "Tag, you're it!"

I am a ST fan as well...

PS: Piccard as a Borg was a p****. If they had ever gotten Kirk, well, it would have been Game Over.

OP: let us know how this works out for you.

[dasoupdude]

OP: let us know how this works out for you.

It's for a public speaking (speech) class. Good God, all this crap will suffice.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Dasoupdude, this discussion is the kind of debate that makes SW and ST geeks jizz in their pants. It's been discussed to death all over the interwebz, their are actually sites built and dedicated about who would win in a ST vs SW battle not just the borg vs ds but also Enterprise vs DS, Force vs Q Continuum, ect... Actually if you search on youtube there are some decently made videos with various scenarios using clips from each.

If you want a good topic for your speech class putting geek vs nerd in a heated debate you should try a little harder, like for example, who would win Master Chief vs Bobba Fett, or Batman vs Captain America. Use your imagination, as you can see this is just too easy and honestly as you can tell their is no clear cut victor.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=star+wars+vs+star+trek

http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWhi2.html

both of those links should give you more than enough information to use in a ST vs SW battle.

Need ideas besides the ST vs SW battle, check out this site

http://www.electricferret.com/cbub/cbubbattle/

If a nerd, dork, or geek can think of a vs. match it's probably there.

[Dattebayo]

If a nerd, dork, or geek can think of a vs. match it's probably there.

lol

"Children of the Corn vs. The Stepford Wives"

HA!

[Chaotic_Warlord]

lol

"Children of the Corn vs. The Stepford Wives"

HA!

That site is old as hell, the list there is just the current list of battles, search a character or check their forums their are some REAALLLLLY good matchups.

[Mr1der]

Buck Rogers gonna handle this s***.

[snwbrdr435]

James Fail!

[Dattebayo]

James Fail!

James Blond?

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Buck Rogers gonna handle this s***.

[img]http://www.buck-rogers.com/film_and_ser ... buck01.jpg[/]

Dude you are Epic fail, I copied and pasted that link in and it took me to a google search with this thread being the only result. Wow what a dumbass.

Is this what you meant to do?

[dasoupdude]

Dasoupdude, this discussion is the kind of debate that makes SW and ST geeks jizz in their pants. It's been discussed to death all over the interwebz, their are actually sites built and dedicated about who would win in a ST vs SW battle not just the borg vs ds but also Enterprise vs DS, Force vs Q Continuum, ect... Actually if you search on youtube there are some decently made videos with various scenarios using clips from each.

Yeahps, I've seen some of them before. I just thought it would be interesting to hear nerds who also show an interest in Nissans.

Some of the points just blew me away completely.

[Nali]

If you want a good topic for your speech class putting geek vs nerd in a heated debate you should try a little harder, like for example, who would win Master Chief vs Bobba Fett, or Batman vs Captain America.

pfft those are simply Bobba Fett, and Batman win via Curbstomp

You want a tough one you have to go much deeper like:Superman vs The Void SentrySuperman

The Void Sentry

The Void Sentry cant die, morgana tried and he just came back as if nothing was wrong.Superman is nigh invulnerable, so this fight could take ages.

[skydragoness]

Droids cant be assimilated, this is true. On the flip side of this, how many droids in Star Wars are even worth anything in combat? Even the ones that are decent are a worlds less sophisticated than a Borg soldier.

The Borg are a collective mind, meaning that they're one huge super computer making computations per second that are unparalleled in the whole Star Wars universe, let alone one droid. While the droid may be thinking a bit ahead in terms of what to do in battle, the Bord would have the whole battle strategy finished, along with about a billion other sub-strategies for given variables.

^THIS

...and for the record I like both, but I have a soft spot for TNG, watched that everyday after schooOOol.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

pfft those are simply Bobba Fett, and Batman win via Curbstomp

You want a tough one you have to go much deeper like:Superman vs The Void SentrySuperman

The Void Sentry

The Void Sentry cant die, morgana tried and he just came back as if nothing was wrong.Superman is nigh invulnerable, so this fight could take ages.

I see your challenge and raise you one better, Spawn vs. Superman Prime, as proposed here...

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/v...47115/

[Nali]

I see your challenge and raise you one better, Spawn vs. Superman Prime, as proposed here...http://lounge.moviecodec.com/v...47115/

Spawn can do anything, he only chooses not too cuz he knows everytime he uses his powers they slowly diminish. He recreated the whole frikkin planet, we should all call him GOD.

Fight starts, Spawn says hey prime you want your old planet back? Fine i can make it happen. Here *tada* Prime is turned into an octopus.Spawn then Curbstomps the octopus till it loses the octo in its name

Spawn can only be killed by beheading....using a celestial weapon...which Prime and 100% of DC/Marvel superheroes dont have, so he would win against them all.

Superman vs Vee Sentry is cool cuz they have similar powers and both have come back from the dead.

But Vee Sentry wins at the end though.

[dasoupdude]

Apparently Spawn II is in production.

[themadscientist]

A challenger appears!

[snwbrdr435]

[lino]

Death star. Not even a fair match. The cube wouldn't even stand a chance against a super star destroyer.

[Mr1der]

Dude you are Epic fail, I copied and pasted that link in and it took me to a google search with this thread being the only result. Wow what a dumbass.

Is this what you meant to do?

rofl...all I did was finish the image tag in an edit and it showed up.

try quoting it and just adding in the full tag dumbass?

[dasoupdude]

Galaxy Quest 4 lyf.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

A challenger appears!

No shields, and nukes are still a big deal in BSG. An B-wing could potentially rape a basestar.

[HashiriyaS14]

Time for me to wade into this motherclucker.

Ships from both universes can travel at faster than light speeds. But neither of them use it for anything but long distance travel. You don't use warp or transwarp in combat unless you're pursuing someone else going that fast. For fighting a stationary object, warp is useless.

This is totally untrue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...euver

The Death Star would likely have several minutes to destroy the Borg Cube, and then the battle would go to the cube.

If the superlaser could be trained on the cube and they could score a hit before the Borg could modulate shields on that frequency, that would be it for the Borg. If however, the cube moved too quickly at impulse for the Superlaser to target (entirely possible, up to .98x warp), then they would have to rely on turbolasers, which would not destroy the cube before the shields could adapt.

Furthermore, the Death Star does not have "beaming" capability. The cube could, in a sustained battle, transport Borg to the Death Star and gradually assimilate the crew.

Additionally, the Borg demonstrated their ability to cut through shields when they "extracted" a hull sample from NCC-1701(D), and thus they could likely examine and defeat the shielding on the second death star in a similar fashion.

The cube could easily jump around at lightspeed, get a few shots off through the Death Star's shielding, and then jump again before the Superlaser could be targeted.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Since we are back on topic, I don't think the Death Star rotates, I think it just flows with the gravitational rotation of the planet it was built around, therefore all the Cube needs to do is just impulse power itself to the DS's backside to keep itself safe from the Super Laser. There is absolutely no evidence that the Death Star is capable of self motivation, it's just show to be built within firing range of the the Planet it's going to destroy. If anyone can show blue prints that show it having the ability to move on its own power or some form of evidence that shows this, the Cube could easily just fly in circles around it, transporting borg to the DS and firing at it at the same time. Get 3 or 4 more Borg Cubes in on the game and the DS would be either assimilated or destroyed in the matter of an hour or two, kinda like that video of the Japanese wasps attacking that giant a** hive of killer bees.

[simmode1]

If anyone can show blue prints that show it having the ability to move on its own power or some form of evidence that shows this,

You're kidding, right?

In part IV: A New Hope, the DS destroyed Alderaan and then it flew across the galaxy or wherever to destroy the rebel base on Yavin 4. It is clearly capable of movement. But is it nimble enough to catch a moving target with it's super laser? No.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Since we are back on topic, I don't think the Death Star rotates, I think it just flows with the gravitational rotation of the planet it was built around

A: Rotation has nothing to do with orbitB: The Death Star has ion engines and can travel.C: Neither Death Star was built in orbit around a planet. Both of them were hidden away in deep space. Remember in Episode IV, the heroes commenting on a Tie Fighter being so far into deep space alone shortly before discovering that it was headed to the Death Star?

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Since we are back on topic, I don't think the Death Star rotates, I think it just flows with the gravitational rotation of the planet it was built around, therefore all the Cube needs to do is just impulse power itself to the DS's backside to keep itself safe from the Super Laser. There is absolutely no evidence that the Death Star is capable of self motivation, it's just show to be built within firing range of the the Planet it's going to destroy.

GTFO.

[BusyBadger]

C: Neither Death Star was built in orbit around a planet. Both of them were hidden away in deep space.

I'll agree with you on the first Death Star but the second?

Watch Return of the Jedi again, the second Death Star was constructed in orbit of Endor (and don't get into some semantic debate citing Endor as a moon).

You're endangering your geek status posting such misinformation.

[ERIC s.-14]

Do these Borg guys have the superior strategic military ambushes and create a trap that can only be detected by one man??

[Dattebayo]

(and don't get into some semantic debate citing Endor as a moon).

It's a fact of physics that a moon cannot have a moon. The pull of the host planet is too great, a course correction would have to be made in order to fake an orbit like that.

[Dattebayo]

Do these Borg guys have the superior strategic military ambushes and create a trap that can only be detected by one man??

I wouldn't call him a man, maybe more of a fish...