5 Star Shine Paint Protection Explained

[szh]

Magret, find a teflon-coated pan in your kitchen and stick a bumper sticker to it, then come back and tell us your results.

p.s. It'll stick quite nicely.

Or, you could stick the pin stripe onto the car before applying the 5 Star Shine. That should work just fine, I would think. the 5 Star Shine ideally adheres to paint, but it should work with vinyl too. Any non-porous material - from my read of the patent.

Z

[AZhitman]

Knee is healing, but very slowly. Still have limited lateral stability... Thanks for asking.

[szh]

So ... has anybody here tried the 5 Star Shine product yet?

I need to protect the paint on my new M45 and was hoping to see some positive comments. Else I will have to use the competition (Zaino), since I am sure of it working well - having used it on two other cars in the last couple of months!

Z

[PalmerWMD]

Ryan got his kit in the mail.

Was'nt <quite> able to get it done prior to meet.

He'll do it soon though.

Also, while not cheap its not like they cost the world.

If they hold just half of what they promise...:thumbup

Fred..

[elwesso]

Id like to try it also..... Maybe after he does the G he'll let me borrow some to do the Q......

[nuQ]

i am days away from ordering, what i thought would be zaino. this thread has made me hesitate. need to get a good coat of something on the Q before the PA winter begins. 4 or 5 months ago i used the pepboys specials (clay bar, polish, wax--maguirs). very happy with the results, but know the zaino treatment is much better (hard to believe!!! but i do). would really like to hear from another member on results from 5 star before i make my decision. it all sounds good, though. thanks jeff

[Cujo31]

Id like to try it also..... Maybe after he does the G he'll let me borrow some to do the Q......

I think they only give you enough to do one car. They say you only have to apply this stuff once and you are done. I now heard from another person that it only lasted something like 6 months. So you haev people here who have had it last a year or so, other places 6 months, and on the 5 Star site they say years.

No offense to the 5 Star believers, but I firmly believe products will last at max a year ... so in that, I will stay with Klasse or another synthetic for cheaper. Im sure your product is good ... if I could afford it I might try it.

Here is what my stuff will look like on black ... the clarity is killer!http://ftw.truckmoxie.com/myga...=7440

[rydwhite]

If the weather cooperates I should be able to get it on my car this coming Sunday. I will do a brief write-up and post some before and after pics once I get it all done.

Ryan

[PalmerWMD]

Cujo ;Who are you quoting?I been reading all responses and no one "here" has said it last 6 months..

Fred..

[Cujo31]

I am also on Detail City, Ford Truck world and a few others. Mind you, the only way to be sure is through personal testing, so I cant take what I read to heart. That goes for hearing it lasts for 6 months and it lasting a few years.

What I want to see and hear are those who have applied it once and it has been at LEAST a year. How does it look? How well does it bead? Not stuff like .. well I just applied it and man does it look great... it beads like mad .. blah blah blah. 5 Star claims it will last years with one application ... I want to hear from those people.

Anyone? Anyone?

I was quoting elwesso by the way Fred

Cujo

[elwesso]

I dont care how long it lasts, I personally wouldnt want it to last that long, because then I wouldnt have anything to do on those boring days.....

I once waxed my car 2 times in 2 weeks.......

[Cujo31]

Then you wouldnt want to buy this ... lol Stay with the Megs line and you are good to go. I love waxing and taking care of clients cars

Anyway, after reading over the Patent again ... I really hope this is not the final draft. If so, it would make me leary about the product because of the spelling and such. This is something our Navy uses? Was this done in Canada?

Cujo

[chadster]

In response to Cujo's statement of lasting just 6 months:

My pictures on the site earlier are from my car having been treated 6+ months and still going strong. People can choose to believe me or not.

I have not dissed, been critical, or specifically put down your products in this thread. I have said many, many, many, many times that 5 Star both protects and keeps a car looking great for longer than any other product out there.

I feel that I have taken the time to show people that I am not trying to rip off, dissuade, belittle, and just plain deceive them out of their money, and, just as significant, their time spent working on their cars. Why would I advertise a product that has great claims without being willing to spend time here to be available to answer questions.

The great thing about the free marketplace is that people have choices and that's all I am offering, a choice to get out of one's 'wax comfort zone'. So Cujo, even if you tried 5 Star why in the world would you recommend it over your products???? Remember as you stated earlier..... being a detailer...... a product like 5 Star would hurt your business. (The amount of money we charge is a minimal investment for the payoff. One Kit will do a huge SUV. So 2 cars is no problem while being sure to split the 2 solutions in half.)

You've already noted your skepticism many times throughout this thread and I have been very forthright in responding to each of your criticism's and questions. Frankly, I'd rather do other things than sit and defend against another guy who is looking to get FREE advertising for his product on a very actively read thread. But never-the-less, I'll keep doing it.

So why don't you let Ryrwhite put it on his Infinity this Sunday and then come back and look at this thread on October 26th, 2004. You'll get a good update.

Yep they use it in the US Navy. Canada should try it.BTW, yeah the spelling needed to be double checked, getting edits into a submitted patent on-line takes a bit of time etc. I'm gld tht splng erors don;t diloot claimz otherwise we'd all be guilty on this thread.

-Chad

[rydwhite]

Requesting a Certificate of Correction for a patent is often not cost effective if the correction is just for spelling mistakes that are not relavant to the patent. This coming from 4 years of experience in patent law. While it may not look great, it is not a big issue with the effectivness or the quality of a patent. I have read many a patent where spelling was perfect, but the patent didn't protect anything that useful. I have also read several patents that have had spelling errors throughout, but the paten is a major cash cow for a corp. Mistakes happen even through several proof readings. It doesn't diminish the capacity of the patent to protect what is supposed to be protected.

Ryan

[Cujo31]

I dont use just one product line actually, I use a few. I am not trying to get free advertising ... not sure where that came from. Like you are trying to sell your product, I am trying to put in a detailers point of view ... someone who has tried many products out there. Most people that I have talked to about selling their products, only know their products. Why is that? Because they arent really into detailing or the products, they are in it for the money and selling the stuff. Like I said, once someone can come here and say .. Yea, I have had it on for at least a year and it looks and protects just the same as the first day I applied it. 5 Star looks great on that yellow car dont get me wrong. But even Turtle Wax can look like that.

As far as the spelling goes ... I would be more inclined to purchase something ( if I were going off of patents ), from a company tht actually took time to proof read the work prior to submitting it for all the world to see. I am sure I am not the only one either. Of course, like you said, it doesnt take away from the quality of it

Dont ya hate rookies that come onto a board and cause problems? lol There are lots of people that are not sure about detailing products and Im just trying to get my opinion in there as well. Not saying it doesnt work, just other choices.

Cujo

[rydwhite]

The only real purpose of the patent is for protection. I seriously doubt that most people are going to read a patent before they make a purchase. And even if they did most won't understand it. The only time a patent really comes into play is for licensing which occurs at a corporate level. Some products may be different, maybe detailers read patents, I don't know. From my experience, our clients just want the patent to protect their product and ideas from others using them. When licensing a product it usually comes down to someone else violating your patent rights and signing a license agreement so they don't get sued, or that they have seen how well your product works and wants to use the technology. Another thing to keep in my mind is legalease. The whole writing of legal text is much different than that of regular writing standards. Word usage and spelling can vary drastically from what a layperson is used to seeing. That being said, I only saw one typo which had absolutely no bearing on the patent. I am fairly sure that you are reading the page that comes up when you click the link, which is a transcripted version of the patent by the PTO. The actual patent itself does not contain any typos except for one that I was able to find in column 5 line 56 I think. I can double check that if you would like.

It would be nice if we had a detailing section. Any chance in getting something like that Fred?

[PalmerWMD]

It would be nice if we had a detailing section. Any chance in getting something like that Fred?

We have thought about this as a group before.But in thge end teh consensus was that this can be better handled by a couple of FAQ write-ups on this subject.

Fred..

[Cujo31]

LOL I agree about the patent I think if people actually bought products that way there might be something wrong with them ... LOL

I know Im just the newbie, but I agree there should be a seperate forum for detailing. This way we can all discuss and find topics faster.

Cujo

[lessthanjakejohn]

nah, I would read a thread in the General chat, but probaly would never visity a detailing subforum

[rob808]

if u want a detailing forum then goto http://www.autopia-carcare.com lots of info and alot whole lot more experienced detailers out there that have practically tried everything there is to try dealing with automotive detail products.

[Cujo31]

Thanks for that link ... but Im there as well. Keep in mind, detailing is what I do. I dont think Im the only one on having a detail or car care forum rather than seeing everything done in General. I mean look at all the forums here now ... my god LOL I doubt one more forum would kill this site. But like I said, Im a newbie and just trying to help out.

[chadster]

Since some people will only get alerts when this thread has additions so I posted it here case you hadn't seen it as a new thread on 'recent posts'.

http://nicoclub.com/forums/sho...40812

[back_the_pack]

Okay, I think I will give it a shot. Chadster, how long will it take to ship to me if I order today?

[chadster]

back_the_pack,

Great, thanks for trying 5 Star, I know you won't be disappointed. You should be able to get it by Mon or Tues. You can have it expedited if you want to pay for it... If you want to do that you'll have to order over the phone. Just give them the same customer code 'vipdiscounts' and you'll get the $20 discount. 1-866-395-7827

There are 2 options to think about when you're purchasing... Getting the deluxe kit vs. the treatment kit alone. If you've never used clay on your car, I recommend to order the deluxe kit since it comes with a clay kit along with some other good items.

If you have really clean paint etc, just get the regular paint protection. As with any wax or sealant etc, you want the paint really clean before applying.

and please, if you have any questions at all, message me here or a personal one and I will get back to you quickly. I want people to know that I am more than available to help out in any way I can.

Sincerely,Chad

5 Star Shine Companyhttp://www.5starshine.comUse Customer Code 'vipdiscounts' for a $20 discount at checkout.

U.S. Patent : 5,081,171http://www.uspto.gov

[rydwhite]

I ordered it and got it in about 3 days.

I am going to put it on this weekend hopefully.

[back_the_pack]

Thanks for the prompt reply! I just submitted the order for the treatment kit. I have a clay bar that I haven't used yet. The vehicle is black, and hasn't been babied all its life. It does shine up well with wax however. It also has some swirls, does this product conceal those at all?

[chadster]

Hey, no problem, when I'm online, i usually respond pretty fast..

Yes, it will remove the minor swirls. Claying the car might take you some time, so ready yourself, it's worth taking the time to do. You'll be amazed at how good clay works. It'll make your paint incredibly smooth. Just work small areas until you got the car finished. Once you get the clay done, you should be able to do your car in about an hour.

-Chad

[PalmerWMD]

P.S. I think we will probably order and try it on speeddoctor's Skyline

Now THAT is something, to have pics of a Skyline with that stuff on it.

Fred..

[chadster]

Adguru, thanks.

It will be nice to have a group of people checking it out and report their experiences with it on the site. I want to continue to build my credibility with everyone at nicoclub. Hopefully in a week or 2 we'll start seeing some posts from those who have used it.

I know I always say it, but to get the most out of any kind of wax, polish, etc. is to clay your paint before applying. You can buy clay at Pep Boys. Meguiar's makes one as well as we sell them on our site. You'll get the most out of any product. Word to the wise..... Claying can take some time but it's worth it, so be forewarned!!

-Chad

5 Star Technologieshttp://www.5starshine.comUse Customer Code 'vipdiscounts' for a $20 discount at checkout.

U.S. Patent : 5,081,171http://www.uspto.gov

[specvwannabe]

howdy all

i use 5 star and i can tell you guys that this stuff works.

i drive a 1999 RAV4 that before 5 star, had never been waxed before. i would only wash it about once a week and maybe put some wax-as-u-dry on it. see below for a pic that was taken with the crappier of two cameras. if you look above the wheelwell, you can see some shine, which is only the result of expensive meguiar's car wash soap and wax as u dry.

that was about 5 months ago. in august i applied 5 star and about 3 weeks ago i took this pic notice the shine in the same spot above the wheelwell. also, you can see the reflection of the trees around my house in my doors. notice that even my mirror is decently shiny, and its plastic too.

i was fiddling around with settings and what not on my camera so i took this pic, not really 5 star related but you can see the gloss in my hood



another settings pic, you can see the sidewalk, the street, and my mailbox in my doors.

as for protection, i don't have another wax to compare it to but i can say that nothing "dirty" sticks to my car (aka dirt, bugs, tar, etc). most everything comes off with just the water pressure from an open garden hose (no nozzle attachment) and the rest like heavy dirt or tar is taken care with a sponge. its very convenient to just rinse off your car with water every few days to keep it looking like new. water beads off very quickly so drying time is reduced as well.

if anyone is looking for a good paint protection system or something to shine their car with, or both, stop and get a bottle of 5 star. chad is a great guy and he's offering $20 off so give it a try. if 5 star can make my white car this shiny, imagine what it can do for a darker colored car. also, this would be great in the coming months to protect against salt spray and slush crap if you live in a snowy area.

edit: just fixed grammer mistakes