240sx vs integra/prelude

[yellow_jacket]

Cys19: The SR will not pass emissions in any 96 and up model vehicle. They can pass sniffer, the problem is that 96 and up have to pass the OBDII test that connects directly to your ecu. This will be a problem since the SR's ecu is not an OBDII ecu. You also cannot just hook up someone elses car as the states computer checks the vin# on your ecu at the same time it is doing the test. If they don't match, then you have to go before the state ref and explain why. If you are caught hooking up other cars, it is jail time and fines. And there is no way to opt out of the ecu test. If you car is 96 or newer you have to pass it, no matter what. If you want an S14 with an SR your best bet is to get a 95 because they only have to pass sniffer.

[Scorch]

im stil happy with my 93 corrado. i took a spin in my freinds modded 240 (dunno what with) and i prefer the v dubs handling, that and its hecka quick... dont shoot me.

[silvia tunner]

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[drifter_for_life06]

:uzi scorch lol you been shot

[tegls1]

My teg is not compleatly stock plus I have some crappy tires pn it too that why I loose traction so quickly. Have you ever driven a non vtec integra before? they are not that bad in low end. Sylvia tunner why do you say **** Honda? There are plenty of hondas out there that could smoke you. Just because you have turbo charged engine dosnt mean crap. I think Honda engine are better than Nissan engine. The problem with Honda is the lack of RWD cars. Go to a junk yard you will see more 240s out there then you will see integras. If you can find an integra at a junk yard.

[turtl631]

This is the weirdest thread...I can't even understand what half the people on here are saying

[gounc14]

I'm not flaming anyone or anything here, I'm just curious tegls1, what the fastest car you've ever driven is? Only reason I really ask is because, no offense to anyone here (my current car is a 240), but both the teg and 240 would EASILY get burned by a rather large number of family sedans out there. If you want to consider it...the se-r spec v, the maxima, the accord, for those of you who know what it is, a taurus sho, contour svt, avalon, etc.

[flohtingPoint]

00000000000

[masticatingcow]

I'm not flaming anyone or anything here, I'm just curious tegls1, what the fastest car you've ever driven is? Only reason I really ask is because, no offense to anyone here (my current car is a 240), but both the teg and 240 would EASILY get burned by a rather large number of family sedans out there. If you want to consider it...the se-r spec v, the maxima, the accord, for those of you who know what it is, a taurus sho, contour svt, avalon, etc.

Agreed. Just the other day I had a harder-than-usual time beating a V6 Camry. I have I/H/E/C and ECU on an old motor and it was tough.

Just on a side note: I bought this car not because it was quick... it really isn't anything special on the track. I bought it because it was dead sexy, had a great drivetrain (RWD), and not a lot of people I knew had one... now that's changing... oh well, bigger aftermarket, here we come!

[masticatingcow]

I agree with flohtingPoint... if you want a fun car out of the box without a whole lot of work, get the Teg. If you want a MORE fun car that takes some amount of work to achieve, get the 240sx. Nobody here would deny that the B18 is a better-designed engine in stock form than a KA24(D)E. But with some work, the KA24DE(T) or an SR20DET can CREAM a B18. No question. So, what do you want? A little car for a little work or a lot of car for a lot of work?

As far as Honda engines being better than Nissan engines, tegls1, you should watch yourself when making such broad statements. You're bordering on "ricer-talk," which is what I call non-informed bandwagoning 2F2F NFSU dori-dori-dorifto prepubescent-style bullsh!t.

Also, where the hell are these junkyards with NO Tegs in them but tons of 240s? Times have changed, my friend, and the drifting craze has drained many 240's from the junkyards. And I wouldn't say the Teg is on the road more because it is an extraordinarily better car. Dare I say, it's because the Teg is *gasp* TRENDY? Just wait a couple years... if drifting holds out, I can guarentee you that you'll see lots of Tegs and Civics in these junkyards of yours.

Get knowledge, man. I don't know where you're getting that a Honda engine could kill a turbo Nissan. My advice is that you slow down, think about what you're saying, and TYPE CAREFULLY. (That way, we'll understand what you're saying... it does a lot for communication.)

[drifter_for_life06]

gounc your right, the newer accors with a v6 are decently quick, nto my 4banger, and the avalon i rode in, was my mosm friends, it has some decent pwoer and "get-up-n-go"

[SilviaS14KA24DE]

Pardon my typo. SilviaS14KA24DE is right, it's FC3S. Silvia, I hope you don't spend all night searching for my typos... there are probably a lot of them!

lol this is kinda late, but he's gotta know the right stuff! lol j/k. naw i guess i was bored. LOL

[SilviaS14KA24DE]

damn. yeah that new accord v6 is 240 hp! creams any stock ka. oh and 240 over honda? because 240 = sex machine.... honda= sex maching...wait, wtf? i don't even know what I wrote!

[SilviaS14KA24DE]

oh so tell me about sr's passing the sniffer test for 95 s14? in so cal, will i be able to pass smog with it?

[yellow_jacket]

I am not real familiar with Californias laws, but if it has to pass sniffer you can always take it to someone who doesn't know what they are doing. That way when they do the visual it will pass. It will pass sniffer it it is running well and has a working cat.

[silvia tunner]

I agree with masticatingcow if you know where there are tons of 240's in a junk yard and no hondas plz let me know im in need of a few parts

"just won't be able to break any honda windows" :p

[240SXer]

If you're gonna drag race never get a fwd car. I smoked a SRT4 that tynoed at 287hp to the wheels on the street. You can't hook Fwd cars, you'll always lose. (my car probably only has like 220-240whp and is heavier). So depends on what you wanna do with the car, in road racing fwd isnt as bad.

[Phax]

oh so tell me about sr's passing the sniffer test for 95 s14? in so cal, will i be able to pass smog with it?

No.

Start making friends with people in the automotive repair industry.

[tegls1]

gounce14 Im not sure with was the fastest car I ever driven I rember driving a 3rd gen RX7, 3000gt VR4, vette, and a 911 twin turbo. Pick with one of those cars you think is the fastest. The car I drove the fastest was ither the VR$ or the rx7. After pushing it past 140mph you tend not to look down at the speedomerter too much (if you know what I'm saing). I'm not tring to be mean but what is your point so I can reply back to you with a better responce.

[tegls1]

Why is everybody taking me the wrong way? I didn't mean to diss the nissan engines or the 240. I would sell my teg in a heartbeat to get a 240. I never said that a b18 can beat any sr. I just said that just because a stock sr engine is fast it doen't mean that you cannot build a b18 to be just as fast or even faster. I got nothing but love for the 240. I do think that the 240 is a way better car then the teg. Im just sayng out of the box stock to stock the teg is a faster car. I like both car and please don't think that Im just a honda fan and don't like nissans. It really hurts when people say that im sounding like a non educated ricer. I only speak of what Im mostlikely sure is the truth and I do not base my opinions on video games. I'm really sorry if I affended you because that was not my entention. I was just tring to teach some people on this board that don't know jack about hondas that they are not the POS car that most people put them to be. About the junkyard thing I live in Orlando and every junkyard I have been to has 240s in it but I can never find an integra. If I do the car is stripped to the bone.

[masticatingcow]

There are plenty of hondas out there that could smoke you. Just because you have turbo charged engine dosnt mean crap. I think Honda engine are better than Nissan engine.

^^^^^Hey man, I'm not trying to argue with your last statement but, ah... yeah.

[240SXer]

I'll go up against an Integra on the street any day street tire to street tire and I’ll walk all over him with him having similar or more Horsepower. The power delivery on those engines suck and they're just not good for drag racing (that's what I do so bah). Integra’s are more popular; every little ricer kid wants one. They're going to be more rare to find (or stripped) in junkyards, big deal. Those B18s are good if you want to run 14s and get good gas mileage. Soon enough my car is going to be running in the Mid 12s on pump gas and street tires. How hard would it be to get an Integra to do that? On STREET tires, like some AVS Yolks, or 712s. Not street slicks, not BF Drags or ET Streets, actual normal 40k Street tires.

[yellow_jacket]

I don't know how it is in other places, but here in GA I know where tons of Integras and other Acuras and Hondas are sitting in junkyards. The reason you don't see them much in normal yards is because these 3 or 4 specialty yards snatch every last one of them up.

[240SXer]

I have yet to find a 240 in a junkyard around here in So Cal. But that's just me, I’ve been to like 4 of them and no 240s (that' what I was looking for) but they did have tons of Crxs, integras, civics, etc. I'd assume it was just because there were more of those cars made and thus more broken. Any theorizing on why there is more or less of a car in a junkyard is just dumb. Unless you're going to take production amount and years produced into account.

[sk8erguy1501]

vengance ur S14 is so sexy. i wish mine was a real SE. this debate just depends on driving style. the hondas are easier to build due to abundance of parts. the 240's are just plain sexier.

btw - does anyone happen to have an S14 OEM front lip spoiler? fog lights?

[cys19]

**** will start leaking out of my *** if i don't get an s14 by the time summer ends

[gounc14]

My point was that neither the teg nor the 240 ARE fast cars at all stock =) I mean when my taurus could burn you, ya know its bad

[240SXer]

They've got potential though, if we all wanted fast stock we'd only have Corvettes and Camaros (I know there are tons more but you see the point). There is a certian joy taking a car that runs 16s stock and getting it to run 11s.

[flohtingPoint]

My point was that neither the teg nor the 240 ARE fast cars at all stock =) I mean when my taurus could burn you, ya know its bad

I dunno Brother, my buddys GSR is pretty damned quick, and the only thing he's done is stick an iceman on it. Now a stock 240... thats a diff story. I remember driving with the KA24... that was like a hamster on a wheel.

[240SXer]

Say what you'd like, but what I see on the street/track are two different things. I'd give a GSR with a CAI 16.6-16.8 at the most at LACR. My 240 with Exhaust, Pulley, and Electric fan was running 16.4s. I walk GSRs all the time. Just because a car 'feels' fast does not mean it is. From a roll ya, the integra would get me, but from a stoplight it's a different story. Maybe your KA24E was a Hamster, but the DE sure isnt. It's not a monster stock, but it can hang with GSR with no problem. (stock vs. Stock)