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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (Kckouki) | 11:28 PM 5/20/2008 |
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thanks man, good lookin out

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PorkChopExpress

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 11:58 PM 5/20/2008 |
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hahaha that was a great bump.
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motoman399

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 12:01 AM 5/21/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by SketchyRollin564 » | a test light.. i could use a multimeter instead right? my dads got one i can borrow, so that should be fine
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yes you can use a multi meter but a test light is like 8 bucks and is so simple to use. you take the alligator clip and clip it onto a metal piece of the body somewhere (a ground) then take the pointy part and stick it in wires and if there is a light then you have power. so much easier to use than a multi meter. i strongly suggest it to you

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motoman399

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| « Re: (Kckouki) | 12:02 AM 5/21/2008 |
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i though it was kinda rude.... but thats just me
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Kckouki
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| « Re: (motoman399) | 12:13 AM 5/21/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by motoman399 » | | i though it was kinda rude.... but thats just me |
Pffftt...... Sketchy and me are butt buddy's. He is the receiver.
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sebazztard

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| « Re: (Kckouki) | 12:23 AM 5/21/2008 |
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+100000 on the test light, you wouldnt belive how this saved my ***. you really need to learn how to diagnose properly. people are telling you how to check things and you arent listening. buy a test light, learn how to use the fsm and you are good to go. honestly bro, its a matter of listening and doing a bit of research. spend the money on a new unit, or spend like 6-8 bux on a test light at walmart and check to see if you have circuits when you press buttons. if you dont know how to use a test lamp, do research on that. if you dont have any power going to your hvac, how is a new one going to fix the problem? i hope you figure this out, im on your side , not trying to be a dick
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motoman399

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| « Re: (Kckouki) | 12:48 AM 5/21/2008 |
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oh ok. cause if you said that to me id be like. oh hell no haha| Quote, originally posted by sebazztard » | | +100000 on the test light, you wouldnt belive how this saved my ***. you really need to learn how to diagnose properly. people are telling you how to check things and you arent listening. buy a test light, learn how to use the fsm and you are good to go. honestly bro, its a matter of listening and doing a bit of research. spend the money on a new unit, or spend like 6-8 bux on a test light at walmart and check to see if you have circuits when you press buttons. if you dont know how to use a test lamp, do research on that. if you dont have any power going to your hvac, how is a new one going to fix the problem? i hope you figure this out, im on your side , not trying to be a dick |
please take our word!! get to learnin.
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (sebazztard) | 2:45 PM 5/21/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by motoman399 » | yes you can use a multi meter but a test light is like 8 bucks and is so simple to use. you take the alligator clip and clip it onto a metal piece of the body somewhere (a ground) then take the pointy part and stick it in wires and if there is a light then you have power. so much easier to use than a multi meter. i strongly suggest it to you |
oh ****, i can get em at like walmart or somthing right? that sounds way easyer, so im gonna try to get one tonight. idk much about wiring though.. so i wouldnt know how to check the connection for the reciever in the HVAC if its not plugged into power, or however id do it.
| Quote, originally posted by sebazztard » | +100000 on the test light, you wouldnt belive how this saved my ***. you really need to learn how to diagnose properly. people are telling you how to check things and you arent listening. buy a test light, learn how to use the fsm and you are good to go. honestly bro, its a matter of listening and doing a bit of research. spend the money on a new unit, or spend like 6-8 bux on a test light at walmart and check to see if you have circuits when you press buttons. if you dont know how to use a test lamp, do research on that. if you dont have any power going to your hvac, how is a new one going to fix the problem? i hope you figure this out, im on your side , not trying to be a dick |
not trying to sound defensive, but people havnt really told me anything that i didnt go out and try. its not like anybody is really reading this or trying to give me advice in the first place. 2 of the 4 pages are probably just "bump" to the ones who are trying to help though (you, motoman, spooled (on aim), 2nd nissan), i really appreciate it. havnt seen any suggestions so far that i havnt tryed besides the test light, but im gonna try that tonight once i can get one. as far as the matter of listening and doing research. Id listen if people posted up stuff to listen to, and i dont really know where i can research this stuff but anyways, thanks for helpin out, ill get a test light tonight and update the thread assuming i can figure out how to use it
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motoman399

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 5:45 PM 5/21/2008 |
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ok when you get a test light plug in your hvac, then take you test light clip it to the ground and take the pointy part and put it on the one of the wires going to the electric motor. switch the hvac and see if the test light lights up. if not try the other wire. let us know what happenes
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (motoman399) | 3:21 PM 5/22/2008 |
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k well i went to both lowes and radioshack yesterday and neither of them had it, or had a clue what i was talking aboutthey had a continuity tester, and some voltage meters. I figured the continuity tester mighta been it, since it had two aligator clips like you described, and a light, but i asked the guy so i could learn and make sure. I told him my situation, and he said the continuity tester isnt gonna tell me powers going out, but only to find where a break in the wire is Voltage meter doesnt seem like it, and sombody on here said its way more complicated, the light is way easyer are you sure its called "test light", and theres not another name for it?
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 5:22 PM 5/22/2008 |
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anyone? the stores probably close at 10 and i wanna finish this **** up so bad
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spooled240
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i would recommend volt meter, they are not too much money and they are a good investment, they come in handy
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PorkChopExpress

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| « Re: (spooled240) | 8:11 PM 5/22/2008 |
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I have a test light you can barrow. Got a insurance quote for $85 a month so if everything goes smooth with the dmv tomarrow I should be driving the black turd down. Still doesn't have a exhaust or turning signals or headlights but who needs that crap.
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (PorkChopExpress) | 8:33 PM 5/22/2008 |
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LMAO good luck not getting pulled over. you can probably get a stock exhaust off sombody for free check sfldrifters.com, and post a WTB add but yeah dude, during or after the weekend somtime if i can borrow it thatd be sick
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 9:06 PM 5/23/2008 |
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another bump?you sure theres not another name for it
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motoman399

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 9:59 PM 5/23/2008 |
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hey i typed it in google and it looks like this http://marineengineparts.com/s...3.jpg its very symple
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sebazztard

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| « Re: (motoman399) | 10:15 PM 5/23/2008 |
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yup thats it, called TEST LIGHT, can get em at walmart for well under 10 bux. plug the clip on a ground and probe the point to check for a positive current. so example, probe every connection and try turning stuff on with the hvac and see if the test lamp lights up, if so, then its a problem beyond that unit, if you dont have any lights coming on, its the unit itself, or the problem is before it. and we are giving you advice, you just arent taking it the right way i guess. electrical is a nightmare, trust me, it took me nearly 3 weeks to get my **** straight. *edit* heres a random clip i found on youtube ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvLX__pwspg
so on the probe part, connect into the hvac and turn switches to see if it lights up. kinda like this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
Modified by sebazztard at 10:26 PM 5/23/2008
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motoman399

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| « Re: (sebazztard) | 11:48 AM 5/24/2008 |
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just think of the hvac like a switch. it takes power and sends it to other places. like that motor.
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (sebazztard) | 12:07 PM 5/24/2008 |
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Ok, so your saying its not a continuity tester, its only called a "test light", but in the video hes calling it a continuity tester?at lowes they had a basic continuity tester for under $3.00, but they had no clue wtf a test light was i dont wanna beg my mom to take me to walmart for no reason
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sebazztard

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 12:55 PM 5/24/2008 |
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continuity testers = multimeters (which do several things) , test lights only test for continuity (check if theres voltage present). just because theres voltage, doesnt mean its enough, thats where the multimeter comes in so it will detect how much continuity. makes for better troubleshooting, i just ordered one 10 min ago. regardless of what people call it, you know what it looks like. if you wanna spend like 25 bux, go for the multimeter, but you may only need the 3 dollar test light.
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (sebazztard) | 1:10 PM 5/24/2008 |
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the guy said a continuity tester isnt a mutlimeter, cause a mutlimeter measures voltage, the continuity tester only tells you where a break in a wire is or somthing
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sebazztard

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 9:09 PM 5/24/2008 |
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lol..arguing with people trying to give advice...
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (sebazztard) | 3:54 PM 5/25/2008 |
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no im just confused cause your saying one thing but hte other dudes sayin the othereither way tho, i picked up a little pack at walmart so its all good let you know what happens
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 4:54 PM 5/25/2008 |
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I would be able to use the metal thing that holds the head unit as a ground for the test light, right?also, i know its a common question, but i searched nico and google for a good 15 minutes and couldnt find it, but does anyone know where i can find a downloadable factory service manual? thanks
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Kckouki
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I remember a thread for them somewhere, Ill try and find it.Get on aim.
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Kckouki
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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 5:03 PM 5/25/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by SketchyRollin564 » | | I would be able to use the metal thing that holds the head unit as a ground for the test light, right? also, i know its a common question, but i searched nico and google for a good 15 minutes and couldnt find it, but does anyone know where i can find a downloadable factory service manual? thanks |
http://www.240edge.com/manuals/usdm-cars.html http://www.240edge.com/manuals/240sx-1995.html
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (Kckouki) | 5:27 PM 5/25/2008 |
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cant get on aim man goin to a party lol leaving nowill check out the FSM tommarow, also i cant get the thing to light up cause i cant find a ground or im not doing it right, anyone got any advice?
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 6:16 PM 5/26/2008 |
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ok well i got a new battery for the car today, started her up for the first time in about two weeksthe air mix door was working again, i was like happy as balls. After five minutes though, it decided it wanted to stop working again. I seriously dont know what the fck to do i have the test lights, and i found a ground to hook it up to, but i dont know where to check. On the white plug for the HVAC switches, the end two dont light up, so my guess is those are ground? what else can i check for.
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 2:10 PM 5/27/2008 |
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anyone? now that i got the test light, i can start using it to test stuff (duh), but im kinda clueless on what to test
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 6:45 PM 5/27/2008 |
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i guess nothttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated i watched that video again, and thats pretty much what i did, but how would i know which ones are supposed to have continuity and which arent? also, how would i do it, if the hvac is plugged in?
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Kckouki
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motoman399

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 9:56 PM 5/27/2008 |
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you really need to just leave it for now and take an electrical class at your local college. you need to learn how electricity is transfered to different things. i really suggest it. and im not trying to flame.
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (motoman399) | 1:38 PM 5/28/2008 |
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id rather not leave it, im getting my license tommarow and i was really hoping it would have it fixed by thenas far as a college class... im only 16 bro lol my dads pretty good with this stuff, so hes been helping me a tiny bit when he can, but he thinks its a mechanical problem and not electrical. i still wanna check to see if its an electrical or connection issue first though, cause its not good to take out the motor and put it back together, or get a new one, if its still not gonna work cause of a stupid switch. he agrees with me that its better to do it ourselves cause the dealer is gonna rape us on this one, and he thinks its cool that im learning and ive already gotten this far im gonna be persistant on this one, so im still willing to take any advice you guys throw my way, but i really wanna check if its the electrical, but how do i do that?
read a few posts up as far as what ive tried so far with the test light
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thats why you dont go to lowes ( i run the elcetrical dept at home.... and those guys are idiots at every lowes i have ever been too ) so i have a good idea of how to help the helpless ( every try and teach people to wire a house and not burn themselfs down so they can save some cash? yeah it sucks )the test light, while a good idea... doesnt help **** if he is just randomly poking wires... you need to get really systematic with this man... so get good and comfertable in your inverted gandi postion... pick a singel wire in the hvac control unit.. and make sure the power is on to the car ( IE key is turned to the point where the windows will roll down if its got power windows.. if not... one click before it trys to turn over.. ) and push each control button ( IE feetize.. face-ie, bothie etc etc.. ) and leave it on a single setting for a few seconds.. if no lights.. push the next button down the line.... if you get no light at all for any of the buttons or fan control switch ( just so you know what wire you got poked try all the controls ) move onto the next until you find the one your after... let me know what you come up with...
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 3:30 PM 5/28/2008 |
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good advice, but what am i hooking the light up to, or keeping the probe in?idk which of the three plugs for the HVAC goes to the directional switches but **** im dying to try this now
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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 3:33 PM 5/28/2008 |
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give me like twenty minutes.. i am going to take pictures really quick  okay so i got pictures.. lets start easy:
 now this should be what your looking at when you start. 
this is where you are going to connect the alligator clip that is on the test lamp ( it should work just fine ) this is under the shift boot.. 
now just from looking at the back of the controls i can tell that the connector on the left ( not shown in this picture ) is most likely power in and fan controls only.... the wires you need to test are all the one on the two connectors on the right.. follow the slow test method ( i stated above ) and you should hopefully see some results... its a lot of wires... a ton to be honest... if i knew you could ( not being rude, i just know you wouldnt have a clue ) i would recommend looking at the wiring diagram for this out of the....... wait for it..... FSM <~ best buddy to any car guy or gal... this process is going to take you a while... so dont make any plans...
Modified by Devilstar at 3:58 PM 5/28/2008
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (Devilstar) | 3:49 PM 5/28/2008 |
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sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet i love you man!
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Devilstar

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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 4:00 PM 5/28/2008 |
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yeah so, nobody make funny of the ****y sony head unit.... lol P.S. somebody owes me a beer lol...
let me know if i can help in any other way man.... EDIT: okay so i am a little nervous to make sure you are testing right... 
this should be similar to your test.. once you get the ground hooked up as shown in the picture... you take the sharp end and stab the wire... make sure you break through the coating on it.. or you wont get a light at all... the metal tip has to touvh the copper on the inside of the wire.. if that makes sense... 
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SketchyRollin564

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| « Re: (Devilstar) | 4:17 PM 5/28/2008 |
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lol the only pic that worked was the pic of the test lightnone of the other ones are showin up
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| « Re: (SketchyRollin564) | 4:23 PM 5/28/2008 |
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photo bucket for the lose  here are links in the same order http://img.photobucket.com/alb...e.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/alb...y.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/alb...t.jpg
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