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SketchyRollin564



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  so this thingy seem to broke... help please (56k get your *** in here)


i dont know how to desbribe it....
this thing:

silver thing in the back

one of the first things i noticed when i was riding around without hvac trim, when you push the button to make the air flow to yo face, you can watch that thing go down, so i was like "OMG COOL!!!"

yeah so today, the thing is out cause i was doing the whole shift boot thinger, and i noticed, that thing didnt move anymore

i thought... ok this is wierd....

so i clicked on the button to make it go to my feetzies, and the thing stayed closed (this is when it normaly closes up from being open), waited about 30 seconds, and clicked the face button again....

it went to my face, i was like thank god

well i made it go to the feet again just to check, and yeah, it closed up, only this time, it never oppened again

so like the whole 3 hours i was cleaning my car and playing with it, i kept trying to get it to open, and i noticed the thing was stuck closed....


so anyone know wtf is wrong? i have a feeling this is gonna be expensive as **** to replace if i cant fix it

and i have a feeling its gonna require taking out the dash to fix

EDIIT apparently a lot of people arent realizing that at the bottom of the thread, theres more and better pics, and i obvioulsy made some progress

thanks ryon for bringing to my attention that some people arent that smart

Modified by SketchyRollin564 at 12:22 AM 5/12/2008





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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


and a goodnight bump so i can maybe fix it tommarow
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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


Bro, I'd love to help you out but those pics are so big!!! I don't know what I'm looking at!
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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (Metaru_Gia)


Maybe a closer picture would help...I cant see a thing. looks like the top of the hvac controls.



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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (Metaru_Gia)


[QUOTE=Metaru_Gia]Bro, I'd love to help you out but those pics are so big!!! I don't know what I'm looking at!
=QUOTE] +1 resize and circle what your talking about so people can acutally help ya ^_^
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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (x3whlmotion240sx)


its the metal rectangle with the black foam around it

thats the thing that rises and closes shut to block off air blowin to yo face, and it opens up when you want it blowin there


just look through your vents in the daytime and press the different buttons and youl see the thing slowly move

and its stuck shut right now...

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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


Stop Breaking You Car!





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i feel like im back in high school's speech class....when this one chick had to present She used the word"so" way to often....i wanted to deck her....soo..so..so .like ..like... omg......

least you didnt use ummm ya

idk ...dont mean to upset you



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Quote, originally posted by xckid »
i feel like im back in high school's speech class....when this one chick had to present She used the word"so" way to often....i wanted to deck her....soo..so..so .like ..like... omg......

least you didnt use ummm ya

idk ...dont mean to upset you

that was a so-so reply...

it was funny, but that didnt help me at all lol
but thanks for the bump!


anyways.. anyone? do you think it would do anything if i tried unscrewing and diconnecting the HVAC unit, then putting it back in?

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umm....maybe go find a S14 at a junkyard or a RHD S14 front clip and get the missing parts off of it.....nissan might not carry it anymore for US but doesn't hurt to check out the FSM and find out the right technical term for that HVAC bs
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I believe what you are looking at is called the blend door. check the actuator on it. It could be electric or vacuum operated (probably electric) Good luck probably have to take the dash out to get at it.




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^ sweet, you seem to know what your talking about


so what the hell is an actualator? lol, and how do you check it?

i really dont wanna have to rip out the dash for this...

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It only calls for 1.1 hours to replace the "Air mix door" let me see if I can find some pics

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Doesn't look like you need to remove dash but, you might need a new motor. If you can get it out and lube the actuator it might free it up if it is stuck. That would be a temporary fix until you could find a junkyard part.

Good luck

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the picture makes it hard to see whats going on, but where would the motor be located? how would i access it without taking off the dash?

i guess that would make sence, if the problem is the fact that the motor is dead

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your on your own there. I have never actually worked on an S14 but most HVAC systems are the same. Look to the side of the mix door and see if you can find the motor...start turnin wrenches from there.
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bump.. whered you find the picture? i just oticed that ones for an S13

i just took out the trim again, and took out the HVAC box as well, so its way easyer to get around in there, but im still having a hard time finding a motor or anything... heres all i can see



cant figure out where the fck the motor is... and i REALLY dont want to rip out my dash

im a best off taking it to nissan and seeing what they say?

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5-23-2006

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Try downloading a FSM, it will probably show you everything you need to know.



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4-14-2008

 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


I dunno man...that's pretty crazy. Try hitting it...




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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (XMSducksauce)


U have to look at the heater unit, More towards the left of the door and where u have pics of. I am a parts guy at Nissan and the part # is 27732-70F00. It is to the left and lower then where u are looking.
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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (blacksrjdm)


Sweet ill try to find that... but its the heater unit thats causing the thing to have failed, or is it the motor? Or are you saying its by the heater unit? Either way, i dont know what anything in there is,

you think you might be able to circle it on MS paint?

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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


The part that needs to be replaced is just to the right of where that door is, but a little lower. I am at work so I cannot post pics, but I think I see it just to the right and down of that door. it should be in a little pocket or case. Hope that helps. im me if u can and i will try to explain better. redhonda86w

That diagram a couple of posts up shows the mode mix motor, I beleive thats what it is that u need.

Take the radio and all of that stuff out and u should see it down there somewhere, dont give up.

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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (blacksrjdm)


Ok, so i took the radio/din thing out so i could see better back there, and i found the actulator/arm thing that opens and closes the air box door

i kinda color coded it so you can see what im looking at, and where i am

Yellow = actulator/arm thing
Blue = the screw that holds the two parts to the airbox together?

Anyways, to the pics....
Heres the whole area for anyone who doesnt know where i am

Getting a little closer...

Airbox with part number that might come in handy?

and last but not least, heres what looks to be the actulator arm thing

i have no clue why it goes down so low from the airbox, if the door is wayyy the hell up there, but who knows, maybe its a huge linkage, cause i see a series of 3 arms just in that small pic alone


But anyways, i cant seem to find a motor, and im kinda stuck on what to do now from here.

Anybody who has an S14 and some free time, you are MORE THAN WELCOME to open this area up, and put the fan on and press the buttons so you can see what controlls the air door, if its possible.

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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


so i plugged the HVAC box back in, turned the battery and fan on, pressed the buttons, and i didnt see the actuator move at all...

pushed on the door with the actuator attached still, and didnt see the actuator move

right now im trying to take out the actuator (thing in the yellow)...

i can get that top screw facing me off, but i cant freaking figure out how to get the one facing down off for the life of me, the areas too small.... any ideas?

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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


cmon dude anybody got any ideas? i really dont wanna have to take this **** to the dealer and gotta pay an arm and a leg for somthin simple
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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


Have you tried a stubby screwdriver? They also have screwdrivers with flat and phillips ends that are "s" shaped..an elongated s shape. There's about a half inch on each end after the curves so those might work. They only cost $2 or so...usually in the cheapy tool section at the front of Advanced here. They are kind of a pain to use . Also a 1/4 socket will hold a screwdriver attachment . That might work as well with a 1/4 ratchet.
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cool, good ideas, ill have to try those tommarow
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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


alright, well i tryed using the 1/4 socket to hold my screwdriver head on the rachet wrench, but its a big ratchet wrench with a big cube thing on the end, so to use the 1/4 socket, i had to use the socket extention, which made it impossible to get in the little area =(

it probably woulda been possible if i had a smaller ratchet, if they make em


so for now, does anyone else have any other ideas? i tryed using small needle nose pliers to grab the threaded side of the scerw and turn it, but it doesnt grip hard enough...

Modified by SketchyRollin564 at 12:39 AM 5/12/2008

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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


bump again? am i more likley to get a reply if i post this in the tech section?
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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


You are more likely to get a reply if you stop making individual threads for every issue you have. Just make one that says fix Anthony's car for him.
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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


They do make short handles 1/4 ratchets...Is there room to get a long extension on from underneath? My mix door occasionally is doing the same thing..so I'll probably have to do this some time too. I'm holding off till I get a new a/c compressor though and mess with it all at once.....
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3-24-2007

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hahh i bet you repeatedly pressed the buttons watching it open and close till you broke it.


keep workin at it.



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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (PorkChopExpress)


Quote, originally posted by redtop91 »
You are more likely to get a reply if you stop making individual threads for every issue you have. Just make one that says fix Anthony's car for him.

ummm, this is the first issue ive had lol

other than a thread i made about paint advice and advice with refinishing the wheels


Quote, originally posted by 2ndnissan »
They do make short handles 1/4 ratchets...Is there room to get a long extension on from underneath? My mix door occasionally is doing the same thing..so I'll probably have to do this some time too. I'm holding off till I get a new a/c compressor though and mess with it all at once.....

im gonna have to buy myself a smaller ratchet i guess if i can find one for cheap....
i used the long extention one, but the extention is too long and i cant get far enough down... if i had all that room then i woulda just used a normal screwdriver in the first place =(

good luck with yours, ill do a write up on how to fix this once its done

Quote, originally posted by PorkChopExpress »
hahh i bet you repeatedly pressed the buttons watching it open and close till you broke it.


keep workin at it.

lmao i just pictured that in my head, like a little kid
but on the real, no, i didnt do that

back when it worked and i was driving it, somtimes i would have to switch back and fourth through the buttons to get it to blow to my face, so i guess it was only a matter of time till this happened


anyways, spooled240 gave me some good advice

im gona use a voltage meter and check to see if that plug going to the motor is getting any power, so i know if the problem is in the wiring or the motor itself (most likely the motor though, since it slowly started to crap out on me)


im still trying to take out the actuator and find the motor so i can look at it closer...

anyone got any creative ideas on how to get out that bottom screw?

thanks to those who are trying to help
-sketch

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Quote, originally posted by SketchyRollin564 »

ummm, this is the first issue ive had lol

other than a thread i made about paint advice and advice with refinishing the wheels

Lies! You made one about the shift boot!

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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (redtop91)


ok true, but who cares, this is what nico is for!

id rather make a thread and have to wait 5 days to get a response after bumping 20 times, but then eventually fix it for $5, then have to pay $1,000 to have the dealer ship do it

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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


Quote, originally posted by SketchyRollin564 »

anyone got any creative ideas on how to get out that bottom screw?

thanks to those who are trying to help
-sketch

ya use a 1/4" box end wrench and a Phillips bit. and i have that whole unit out of the car... i just cut up my s14 and have a bunch of stuff for them. so tomorrow ill take pics of it and show you whats up with it. also if you end up needing parts i can ship whatever you need.




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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (motoman399)


those are the ones with the circle ends right?

pshh im pulling off an all nighter so im trying that right now!

thanks for the idea!

edit: yeah i dont have any box end wrenches that are small enough to hold the phillips head....

my best be its do just attached to a 1/4 socket and use a big *** allen key if i can dig one up, or buy one

untill then, i guess thats the only way this is possible

Modified by SketchyRollin564 at 2:14 AM 5/12/2008

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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (SketchyRollin564)


did you ever figure out your stuff? or do you need me to take pics still?
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 « Re: so this thingy seem to broke... help please (motoman399)


pics would help.. i still cant figure out how to get that screw out to get the actuator out... so for now im stuck
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