Rare's "Little" Project -This is a slow one

[raremotive]

I already posted most of the pictures on my spring break thread, found here.

Just to recap in cliffs: It's a time attack track car. I have an rb26, 350z transmission, gts 4.363 final drive.

And quickly recaps on pictures:

Framework:





























Engine:













Now.. the new stuff... didn't do much... just bolted on the oil pan and mounts to see a general mock up in the frame would look like.

[Vanessalalinda]

whoa

[wild_maxx]

Damn you are serious!! Nice job so far.

[DankZX]

Very nice project......hope the rest of the project goes smooth....keep us updated

[Pieceofsand]

those are dry ice right?

[raremotive]

those are dry ice right?

Yes, sir.

[tg]

nice job with the dice! look how clean it came out!

what are the plans for the nose?

[Z32TT]

Impressive will be worth it

[VigorousZX]

I was told that cutting the front end like you did would make for less rigidity in terms of handling and such but you probably have plans to compensate that.

Amazing project

[300zxman1987]

nice very nice

[ZXdriver]

This might sound dumb but what exactly does the dry ice do?

[raremotive]

nice job with the dice! look how clean it came out!

what are the plans for the nose?

In the end, the nose will look close to stock, I will be lightening the overall headlight assemblies and making separate mounts for each.

I was told that cutting the front end like you did would make for less rigidity in terms of handling and such but you probably have plans to compensate that.

Amazing project

As far a the two frame bar flexing relative from each other, I didn't lose much rigidity due to the upper rad support was thin. But I will have a much more rigid radiator support bar put in place to provide upper support. But as far as the strut tower vertical distortion, nothing is to be done. Because I am not using the strut tower. It's there for regulations purposes and provide some collision embracement.

This might sound dumb but what exactly does the dry ice do?

Not a dumb question if you are not from around the block. With out the dry ice, the sound deadening comes out in small chunks and leaves a residue behind. Dry ice condenses the sound deadening making it harder allowing come off in bigger chunks and it also pulls from the metal. You will notice it does help, 30 lbs is about ideal.

[tg]

You can also get a dry ice blasting machine, which is probably the most impressive thing I've seen in a while.

here is a 240 being diced... try doing this with a sand blaster :\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_9nITRz--0

[raremotive]

You can also get a dry ice blasting machine, which is probably the most impressive thing I've seen in a while.

here is a 240 being diced... try doing this with a sand blaster :\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_9nITRz--0

Baking soda works and it's a cheaper process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMle0AeQ ... re=related

[tg]

You can also get a dry ice blasting machine, which is probably the most impressive thing I've seen in a while.

here is a 240 being diced... try doing this with a sand blaster :\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_9nITRz--0

Baking soda works and it's a cheaper process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMle0AeQ ... re=related

still abrasive and still leaves secondary waste ! dice blasting is nuts.

[raremotive]

Today some more cutting, the door...

Exhibit A:


Then..



Then I started working on my adapter template...







I stopped here because I am trying to find out what angle the engine should be relative to the transmission.

[tg]

I stopped here because I am trying to find out what angle the engine should be relative to the transmission.

? you mean what angle should the engine+transmission be relative to the car?

[Vanessalalinda]

I stopped here because I am trying to find out what angle the engine should be relative to the transmission.

? you mean what angle should the engine+transmission be relative to the car?

we're waiting for you at my thread tg......

[raremotive]

I stopped here because I am trying to find out what angle the engine should be relative to the transmission.

? you mean what angle should the engine+transmission be relative to the car?

na, I know the transmission should be as level as possible relative to the car, that's the easy part. So from that since the transmission and car are one plane, it's the engine angle relative to the transmission&car.

[Pieceofsand]

this is a very detail build, i like it.

[evildky]

very impressive build, and taking it to such extremes why not go awd?

I too don't get your trans angle quandry, or why you are making a polycarbonate template? are you planning on an adaptor plate to use the VG trans instead of using the rb 25 trans or just swapping the rb front case onto the vg trans?

[raremotive]

very impressive build, and taking it to such extremes why not go awd?

I too don't get your trans angle quandry, or why you are making a polycarbonate template? are you planning on an adaptor plate to use the VG trans instead of using the rb 25 trans or just swapping the rb front case onto the vg trans?

For simplicity sake for fewer parts, I chose to stick with RWD. Just a whole list of things I don't have to fab up. Besides I have something special and more critical to handling for the front planned. Second to represent an ultimate Z or taking it back to hertiage, the Z had a straight 6 and RWD, so to me I am building the Z how it should of been built.

My angle quandary is an attempt to replicate how the rb26 sits in the GTR, soon as I have that figured out. My plexiglass template will be made into 1/2" steel plate which will mate the VQ 6 speed transmission to the rb26. I would like to keep the transmission as level as possible because the drain plug is exactly dead center, and the transmission has a mounting plate that I will fab up to the frame.

[tg]

? you mean what angle should the engine+transmission be relative to the car?

na, I know the transmission should be as level as possible relative to the car, that's the easy part. So from that since the transmission and car are one plane, it's the engine angle relative to the transmission&car.

hahah this is totally not making sense to me.

uh, I thought the engine had to mat up perfectly flat to the transmission, then any angling that needed to be done would do so in the driveshaft :\

Are there transmissions that are not on a flat plane with the engine? :\ I thought that the crank, flywheel, clutch and input shaft of the transmission were all on the same axis and that if they weren't there would need to be a u-joint in there somewhere, lol.

[Pwnin O'Brien]

On a side note, that's a pretty serious RV in front of your house.

Er, I don't think that was at your house. My bad.

[tg]

On a side note, that's a pretty serious RV in front of your house.

Er, I don't think that was at your house. My bad.

dude thats rude, the R.V. IS his house.



tsssssssssss

edit: no offense to anyone who lives in a trailer... lol.

[SarahLovesHer300zx]

edit: no offense to anyone who lives in a trailer... lol.

[z32pilot62]

na, I know the transmission should be as level as possible relative to the car, that's the easy part. So from that since the transmission and car are one plane, it's the engine angle relative to the transmission&car.

hahah this is totally not making sense to me.

uh, I thought the engine had to mat up perfectly flat to the transmission, then any angling that needed to be done would do so in the driveshaft :\

Are there transmissions that are not on a flat plane with the engine? :\ I thought that the crank, flywheel, clutch and input shaft of the transmission were all on the same axis and that if they weren't there would need to be a u-joint in there somewhere, lol.

I think he is meaning that the RB does not sit straight like a 2J where as the pistons are not straight up and down so the bell housing bolt holes, if you look at the rear image of the engine, would not line up correctly to have the trans sitting in the correct orientation so the drain hole would be on the bottom.

[raremotive]

On a side note, that's a pretty serious RV in front of your house.

Er, I don't think that was at your house. My bad.

Na, it's just a pit stop for the night when when the car was being towed to my house.

tq...

VQ set up... using the shifting knob as how level the transmission is to the engine...



RB slants clockwise a little, it's just a known thing for rb's to slant right when facing it from the front.



Nothing special, but just trying to simulate stock conditions.

[raremotive]

hahah this is totally not making sense to me.

uh, I thought the engine had to mat up perfectly flat to the transmission, then any angling that needed to be done would do so in the driveshaft :\

Are there transmissions that are not on a flat plane with the engine? :\ I thought that the crank, flywheel, clutch and input shaft of the transmission were all on the same axis and that if they weren't there would need to be a u-joint in there somewhere, lol.

I think he is meaning that the RB does not sit straight like a 2J where as the pistons are not straight up and down so the bell housing bolt holes, if you look at the rear image of the engine, would not line up correctly to have the trans sitting in the correct orientation so the drain hole would be on the bottom.

[tg]

I get it, you mean axial rotation.

for some reason I thought you meant this type of angle, LOL, since you were making the shim. In my head I'm like thats not gonna work to well. lol.