Dude sweet.. KA supercharger kit!!

[Florida240sx]

Nothing comes with that kit. You'll be in the same situation with a brand new turbo and manifold and still have extra. You still need piping fmic injectors fuel control etc just like turbo. I got a couple pieces of aluminum which I'm going to make a bracket. Great idea but I want to see clearance issue.I'm actually thinking baout turning the SC sideways. Therefore no oil worries. That is just bolted up. If you were to make a plate and weld it to the upper intake like a lot of the ka24de mani's are done. If I get a good deal on a SC I'll let you know, on my progress.

[Rosco]

I was never a fan of superchargers. If I was doing a KA I'd definately just go KA-T. For 1200 I could piece together a turbo kit for a KA and have some money left for odds n' ends I would need (It'd be easy for me because I can weld and I have access to a welder, MIG and TIG, and theres alot of scrap metal I can use around where I work). Why haven't I done a KA-T (you might ask)? I went with SR instead.

[obby]

Gah...

Quote »Is this legit?[/quote]Yes, but the auction looks like it was released prematurely, or they are just gauging interest. The engineer of the kit(Thomas Knight), and the shop helping develop it(Speedlab) are pretty reputable in the business of making things go fast.

Quote »Fitment?[/quote]It will fit.

Quote »It's ugly![/quote]Uglier than what? It looks almost like a factory component. Powdercoat/polish it like the rest of your engine bling.

Quote »Alternator?[/quote]I think you can see it in the picture. No accessories lost, unless you have ABS.

Quote »It's Expensive![/quote]You should switch hobbies or roll your own. Not to mention, the thing's pretty fricken complete, keep in mind it's a simpler beast than a turbo. Only things missing for a decent setup are injectors, fuel management and intake.

Quote »Centrifugal superchargers are better![/quote]These are already available for the 240 in a more efficient and proven package. It's called a turbo.

Quote »Turbos are better![/quote]For what? A turbo isn't universally better than a supercharger. You have to take into account space restrictions, price, goals, engine, response time, lag and other factors when choosing your forced induction. There is no magic bullet.

As for the rest... The proof is in the pudding. There will be pudding.

[sleepyRPS13]

but but but what about the sohc guys?

[PhaneSoul]

I look at this and i think cheap photochop.

[91RMKS13]

I look at this and i think cheap photochop.

Maybe you need to tilt your head a bit.

I have heard of Thomas Knight he started off making turbos then superchargers. I think he quit making turbos and focused on electric superchargers . But if he helped engineer it I am sure it would work. also by the looks of it it looks like you could almost use the factory intake. All in all it looks like a good buy. But if they are using it to gauge intrest they will have to make it look more legit.
Modified by 91RMKS13 at 2:21 PM 6/30/2006

[91RMKS13]

Guys as you can tell I have been just as curious about this kit as you guys are. So I sent an email to Thomas Knight Turbos (i got the email off their site http://www.boosthead.com/home.php) asking about this kit and here is the responce.

JONATHAN, YES, I DESIGNED THE KIT. A FEW YEARS AGO I BUILT ONE FOR MY 98 ALTIMA KA24DE AUTO TRANS, AND THAT WENT FROM 115 WHEEL HP TO 176 WHEEL HP @ 5 PSI. MARK AT SPEEDLAB IS OUR LOCAL INSTALLATION AND DYNO CENTER FOR TKT KITS, AND DURING A DISCUSSION OF THE 240SX KA24DE I MENTIONED I HAD MADE ONE AND STILL HAD THE CNC DRAWINGS. HE SAID WE NEED TO DO ONE ASAP BECAUSE THE AUTO TRANS CARS DONT DO WELL WITH TURBO LAG, AND A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WOULD WANT THE INSTANT RESPONSE AND RELIABILITY OF AN EATON KIT. WE ALSO DETERMINED THAT AN ADAPTER SETUP SOLD SEPERATELY TO THOSE WHO WANT TO FIND A USED NISSAN BLOWER WOULD ALSO SELL WELL. 240SX OWNERS ARE LOYAL OWNERS WHO LOVE THEIR CARS, BUT MANY DONT HAVE THE TYPICAL $3000-$4000 MOST COMPANIES GET FOR SUPERCHARGER KITS. SO I PULLED MY CNC PROGRAM AND HAD A DOZEN SETS OF ADAPTERS MADE OUT OF 6016-T6 AIRCRAFT ALUMINUM. THE BEAUTY OF THE DESIGN IS AFTERMARKET PULLEYS FOR THE FRONTIER HAVE THE CORRECT BACKSPACING TO WORK, SO CUSTOM MADE PULLEYS ARE NOT NEEDED. THE EBAY ADS WERE PLACED TO GENERATE EXITEMENT ABOUT THE KITS. ONLY A FEW MORE KITS WILL SELL AT THE $1200 PRICE, AS THE FIVE OFFERED WERE INCLUDING CLEAN, INSPECTED, AND TESTED NISSAN EATON UNITS (I HAVE 20-30 OF THEM), AND THEN WE WILL SELL THE ADAPTER SET FOR $1200, OR A COMPLETE KIT LESS FUEL CONTROL AND GAUGES FOR $2495. $2995 WILL INCLUDE 550CC INJECTORS AND A MODDED ECU (EXCHANGE), BOOST & A/F METER. THE COMPLETE KITS GET MY SPECIAL RACE PORTING OF THE MANIFOLD ADAPTER, EATON BLOWER, AND THROTTLE BODY PLENUM--THIS RAISES EFFICIENCY FROM 58% TO 70%--THE SAME AS TURBOCHARGERS. IT TAKES 12 HRS TO PORT AND MACHINE AN EATON CORRECTLY--DARK SECRETS SELDOM SHARED BY SUPERCHARGER MAGICIANS. CLUBS WILL QUALIFY FOR GROUP BUYS (I WONT DISCUSS DISCOUNTS YET), SO EXPECT GROUP BUYS TO BE 20% OR SO LESS. THERE ARE OBVIOUS REASONS WHY I WONT OFFER BETTER CLOSE-UP PICS. TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL COPY MY DESIGN BECAUSE IT IS SO SIMPLE. IT IS UNLIKELY SOMEONE WHO PAYS FOR ONE WILL SHARE THE DESIGN WITH SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO COPY IT. THAT IS HOW I HAVE OPERATED FOR A LONG TIME. TELL THOSE WITH INTEREST THAT WE WILL HAVE DYNO RUNS AND MORE PICS BY JULY 15TH. WE HAVE TWO INSTALLATIONS AND BOTH WILL BE TESTED BY THEN. I DO HAVE THE ALTIMA DYNO RUN IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED. THOMAS (GEOFF) KNIGHT22050 SW 155 AVEMIAMI, FL 33170BOOSTHEAD.COM786-243-2000

[Florida240sx]

I'm about a week away from getting a SC. Going to attempt to make my own kit with a little bit different design.Going to try their placement first. But will most likely go a different route. I'm in the middle of moving right now. So chances are I will be stopped in the middle of this. I'm worried on their kit about how close it is to passenger strut and the oil filter issue. Will soon see fitment pics of their kit.

[koukicody]

(if it legite)How is 1300 for a super charger kit ridiculous? Go look at any super charger kit and find a better price. Sure you could get an S15 turbo cheaper than 1200. But try find a turbo kit that is less than 1200.

let me rephrase. 1200 dollars for a supercharger made from stock used parts is riduculous, and yeah your correct on the whole turbo kit being more than 1200. unless you get it from SSAC! lol

[BadMojo]

let me rephrase. 1200 dollars for a supercharger made from stock used parts is riduculous, and yeah your correct on the whole turbo kit being more than 1200. unless you get it from SSAC! lol

Maybe working today broke my brain, but does that email from Thomas Knight say that after the first few sales the price of $1200 *won't* include the actual supercharger?

[Florida240sx]

WTF. Is no looking at this kit. I just put together a full turbo kit for $1500.This kit only has an adapter plate, rebuilt SC, and tensioner with belt. For $1200 you can buy a brand new mani, turbo, and downpipe. Then your in the same boat as this.This kit is only good for those seeking the 230rwhp mark. The kit I put together for my friend we spent $1500.Brand new SAFCLog manifoldporsche turboCustom DPNew oil linesTial wastegateapexi BOVFmic piping/couplerssr 370cc injectorsngk sprakplug wires and plug

With this kit you are still going to need injectors, bigger fuel pump, and then something to control your fuel. Your in the same price range for a turbo kit.

[Shift_Oversteer]

he wants waaaaaay too much money for that simple *** kit in my opinion. It probably costs him 3$ to cnc those adaptors and he throws in a 200$ at most USED supercharger. Id give him 750-800 tops, maybe 1000 for a new blower included...

[wilfonzo]

how about someone makes one for the SOHC and sells it to me for 500$ and then we can show them, that it can be cheap and one can be made for the SOHC

[koukicody]

WTF. Is no looking at this kit. I just put together a full turbo kit for $1500.This kit only has an adapter plate, rebuilt SC, and tensioner with belt. For $1200 you can buy a brand new mani, turbo, and downpipe. Then your in the same boat as this.This kit is only good for those seeking the 230rwhp mark. The kit I put together for my friend we spent $1500.Brand new SAFCLog manifoldporsche turboCustom DPNew oil linesTial wastegateapexi BOVFmic piping/couplerssr 370cc injectorsngk sprakplug wires and plug

With this kit you are still going to need injectors, bigger fuel pump, and then something to control your fuel. Your in the same price range for a turbo kit.

[Florida240sx]

Buy a SC and then get a plate of aluminum. Put paint on bottom of SC. Set aluminum plate on SC and then remove. Cut the outside edge of and the part where there is no paint. Drill holes to allow SC to mount to plate. After test fitting for clearance and pulley. Weld plate to you intake mani which you hacked in 2.....

[wilfonzo]

sounds easy enough, that guy got the SC from an x-terra off ebay for 100$?????

[wilfonzo]

i dont think that particular SC will work on a SOHC b/c the intake mani is flipped so youd have to flip the SC and that would put the head in the way of the TB no way it will fit

[the_momo]

anyone who puts this on their car will have to have their car be referred to as a "super coupe" and as far as i can remember the only recent cars named as such were fords.....ummm no thanks.

[dickie]

^ explain, all i can recall is the thunderbird from the early 90s?

but yeh i cant wait to get those big 80's oem-style graphics for my door panels just above the rockers that say "turbocoupe" or some bs like that.

[PantherRacer]

Quote »unfortunately due to an unforseen evolutionary occurance...my ka has multiplied and is now a pair of conjoined twins, and has become of some arcane technology, and it sounds really pissed about that. [/quote] ?

[91RMKS13]

anyone who puts this on their car will have to have their car be referred to as a "super coupe" and as far as i can remember the only recent cars named as such were fords.....ummm no thanks.

But my car is a hatch .

[j-z]

Buy a SC and then get a plate of aluminum. Put paint on bottom of SC. Set aluminum plate on SC and then remove. Cut the outside edge of and the part where there is no paint. Drill holes to allow SC to mount to plate. After test fitting for clearance and pulley. Weld plate to you intake mani which you hacked in 2.....

fo shizzle. it really is as easy as that. only thing would be to find someone that can tig aluminum, but that would only cost $75 at most to weld on the adapter to the runners. or if you wanted to do it really cheap you could just bolt it onto the bottom of the uper mani like in the ebay kit. actually, now that i think about it, you would have to do it that way how the ebay kit is. i remember when i was doing my itb setup on how after i cut the upper mani how close that really is to the hood. meaning once i got the plenum and itbs mounted to it, it was really close to my hood. i think the way they did it on ebay is the most tlogical way to do it. also, anyonce can do it that way with some paint, a drill, and a cut off wheel. if you cut the runners and welded the plate onto it, depending wher eyou made the cut at, you would have some serious fitment issues. he said in the email that the intake tube does clear the shock tower, so youre good there. if i ever wanted to do a dirt cheap boost project id def try this out. supercharger= $200 or so, aluminum plate = $10, fmu = 75, inline pump = $50, rtv= $4, probability of cutting up and using your aluminum intake tube and it working is highly. wiht miscellaneous shlt added in it can def be done for around $400 for the DIYer. i guess youd also have to get a machine shop weld an extra pulley on the crank and balance it. wooptie doo that might cost $75 with the pulley. so you could def do it for under 500. man if i didnt just spend over 4k on my ka and wanted to do a real cheap setup id prob try this. although id never come close to the 400whp mark ill eventually be putting down, but itd be a great bang for the buck and a blast to drive. maybe if i find a beater ill go this route.

[ricebike]

waitamin, wasn't david hasselhoff/knightrider putting one togheter?

(i'll search for it later; gotta go)

[JesusLikesKFC]

hmm sound like pie, too bad i suck at welding right now lol.i really wanna try thi during this winter.

[91RMKS13]

I am still talking to Thomas Knight if you guys have any questions let me know and I will tell him. I am also getting more info on what he is doing with this kit. when I get more info I will post it.

[ricebike]

waitamin, wasn't david hasselhoff/knightrider putting one togheter?

(i'll search for it later; gotta go)

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[Florida240sx]

The sohc mani will be fine in the way I'm talking about. Supercharger would sit vertical. Would probably have to cut hood for fitment... Only issue I always came about was finding a Sc to spin the same way as your pulleys. Because if opposite then there is the room issue of putting in the extra pulley to redirect the motion on the SC. If I have time I'll mess around with it. But I'm looking for big hp numbers which this can't produce. Be fun for a rally car.

[JesusLikesKFC]

im looking to sell my current s13 and try to cash out. then for 1200 buy another s13 and hopefully sc it aiming around 175ish whp. if its cheaper than 600 ill do it in a heartbeat. want somthing fun, and more experiance without pulling out my hair. going from 230whp to 170ish wont kill me.

[corey240]

so if you sc the ka, then do exhaust,intake,header,plugs,wires, maybe injectors and mafs would you hit atleast the 200 marker? and after its all said and done wouldnt turbo still be cheaper and get you more power or for the close to same price make better numbers?

[boznuttz]

turbos from junk yards and salvage yards. fmic from diesel trucks, ebay manifolds, my brother for more injectors. every option for forced induction has its own prices depending on how much your willing to spend....or research.