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Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:03 pm
I haven't posted in this forum for a while regarding MY personal problems, but I just can't stand this any more...
The engine is fresh off of a rebuild. Has about 750 miles on it. I spent well over $3600 on this engine, including parts (9:1 wisecos, .020 over, 3 angle competition valve job, 1 mm oversized intake/exhaust valves, PDM stage II cams, etc). Then I upgraded the entire fuel system to handle more boost (JWT ECU, Cobra MAFS, MSD 50 lb/hr top feed fuel injectors, Phat KA-T fuel rail, new fittings, etc).
I know my turbo is small, but it's not THAT small. It's a T3 super 60, .48 a/r exhaust, .60 a/r compressor. I remember a while back AceInHole made some pretty impressive numbers from an even smaller turbo (SR T25).
All that I want is to be able to have 15-17 psi from 3000-6000 rpm. I don't give a crap if the boost falls off past 6000, although ideally it'd stay constant to the 7200 rpm redline....but basically i want at least 15 psi at 6000 rpm, IN EVERY DAMN GEAR.
Here's what happens....In every gear, it'll spike to 12-13 psi right off the bat, but only stay there for an instant. It will immediately bounce back down a few psi and continue decreasing boost, and by 6000 rpm (in 3rd/4th gear) it's at 6, yes 6 psi. That's 1/2 the initial boost the turbo produces, and 10 psi LESS than what I want at the RPM. 10 PSI is a lot of friggin boost to not have, and I can sure feel it.
I've played around with numerous manual boost controller set-ups, using two needle valves, one bleeding air back to the turbo inlet after the MAFS, one bleeding it back to the turbo compressor itself. Right now, a vacuum line comes from the wastegate diaphragm, then there's a needle valve, then after the needle valve there's a vacuum T, with one portion of the T going back to the turbo compressor, one portion of the T going to the turbo inlet after the MAFS, with another needle valve in this line. Before that, there was a vacuum line coming off the wastegate diaphragm, then the vacuum T with one portion of the T going back to the air inlet after the MAFS with a needle valve in this line, and one portion of the T going back to the turbo compressor, with another needle valve in this line. Using this configuration the boost would spike to 15-16 psi at first and fall down to the same disappointing 7-8 psi by 6000 rpm.
I've also tried just using a simiple in-line needle valve between the wastegate diaphragm and the turbo compressor, with no air bleeding back to the turbo inlet. I've also tried a "more precise" JOE P MBC. All set-ups have been equally disappointing. I can't imagine that all these MBC set ups would fail for no reason, and there's no way in hell I'd trust an electronic boost controller after seeing the failure of all my previous set ups.
Now, let me tell you what ISN'T the problem:
I don't think I have a boost leak anywhere. Why? Because my vacuum/boost gauge has perfect, rock solid readings at idle and in gear when the car is decellerating/under no throttle application. If there were a leak anywhere, i'd think the gauge would be erratic at idle and/or when in gear and decellerating with no throttle (correct me if I'm wrong). The only time the gauge is weird is after a long ride when I bring the car back to bring it in the garage, sometimes at the top of my steep driveway the car will stall, but before doing so the gauge will be erratic. But this jumping of the gauge has ONLY happened after switching to my JWT ECU/cobra MAFS/new fuel injectors, so I highly doubt this has anything to do with my boost problem, a problem I've had ever since I turbocharged the engine. It only stalls infrequently when out on drives, and again, has only done so after switching to the new MAFS/ECU. Otherwise, the vacuum gauge says all is good.
It's not the internal wastegate/actuator. Yeah, it is an internal wastegate, and yes, I know internal wastegates are inferior to external wastegates, but I have neither the will nor the money to upgrade to an external set up. A week ago, I was convinced that my stock T3 wastegate actuator went bad. So I went out and bought an extremely overpriced, new GReddy internal wastegate actuator for $110, that was rated at 14 psi AND UP. It was a pain in the *** to make it fit, and it required fabrication. But it fits fine, and I still have the boost problem. Using just the GReddy wastegate actuator with now boost controllers, the turbo wouldn't hold past 7-8 psi, even though it's a 14 psi spring.
It's not the "restrictive" 2.5" exhaust system, because currently, the exhaust isn't even connected. I have a 2.5" mandrel bent downpipe, and at the end of the downpipe is a straight through 2.5" glass-pack functioning to silence the engine a bit. That's it....no muffler, no resonator, nothing.
I can't see or hear of any leak between the head and the exhaust manifold or in the exhaust manifold itself.
Many of you know that this has been a recurring problem with my turbocharger endeavor since the beginning. Before the engine rebuild when I was running less boost, it'd hit 10 psi and then level off to 7-8 psi by 6000 rpm. I can't tell you how unbelievably frustrating this whole problem is....I sunk soooooo much money into the engine and the fuel system to be able to handle the type of boost/power I want it to be able to handle, and it's not making CLOSE to the power I want it to make, because it's barely holding HALF the boost I want it to make.
The ONLY other thing that is "wrong" with the car right now is that the EGR tube, that used to recirculate into the stock exhaust manifold, now has some of that bendable, convoluted ~1" diameter exhaust piping welded onto it, runing down the downpipe and along the transmission where it plugs into a high flow catalytic converter for when I'm going through emissions. The cat obviously isn't there now, so I have this tube plugged right now. Anyway, this tube has recently developed a crack in it right near the downpipe...but this is a recent development; it was fine and uncracked before and the boost still dropped off like crazy, so I'm ruling this out as a possible cause of the insane boost shrinkage.
Can anyone offer ANY insight? I'm at my wits end here...and I don't know how much longer I can put up with this car running at 1/2 the performance I want it to run at...i'm almost contemplating selling it.....
Any help is appreciated, but keep in mind the aforementioned information (this would require reading through the entire, albeit lengthy, post) and don't just respond "sounds like a boost leak"
THANKS!
-Marc
Modified by MarkEmark at 4:21 AM 7/17/2005