Who Killed JFK?

[VimyJ]

Motive: fame, making a political statement (either/or)

Ruby: lot of comotion. All those reporters in the cop shop. boggles the mind nowadays. Security? Obviously a joke.

Route: The SS built the road in front of the depository?

Go to Daley Plaza. You will see that all the other locations for fictious shots are untenable. Totally open public spaces. It was an eye opener for me.

[Onizuka]

motive: so everyone who kills wants fame? you cant claim that because not you or anybody else can read some ones mind (some one that is dead non-the-less). Making a political statment? of the hundreds of forms for making a political statment why kill somebody? there isnt even any evidence it was political in nature. JFK wanted to pull out of the Vietnam war by 65, LBJ wanted to make it bigger. Wouldnt he be in support of JFK? Nobody will ever know if LHO was a sympathiser for cuba or castro. Nobody knows if LHO went to russia on government covert ops or personally. Although in the day of anti communism, it is strange how even though he went to russia and denounced his american citizenship, he came back, still a citizen of america, and continued to work for the government.

The route was pre-determined, but over 15 motorcade presidential safety rules were broken on command of the secret service director in charge, like i have said MANY TIMES already.

[VimyJ]

"so everyone who kills wants fame?"

You kill the president, you're going to be (in)famous.

"of the hundreds of forms for making a political statment why kill somebody?"

Ask bin Laden.

" there isnt even any evidence it was political in nature"

Oswald was sympathetic to commumism.

"Wouldnt he be in support of JFK?"

JFK thwarted Cuba and the USSR in the new world.

Lifting boxes of books for the Dept. of Ed. in Texas is technically a gov't job. You've got me on that one.

The president gets his own way in 1963. Open car. Seen the pictures of Kennedy in the open car at the ticker tape parade in NY? Landau for the inauguration? Precedent has been cited.

Oswald was a nut. The KGB had no use for him. It's cold in Moscow in January.

[Onizuka]

These people must not know what they are talking about

[Onizuka]

Bill Newman, closest spectator to the president at the time of the head-shot:

"And then as the car got directly in front of us, gunshot apparently from behind us, hit the President in the side of the temple."

[Onizuka]

Malcolm Kilduff, acting Press secretary for the trip.Reportedly from transcripts of his press conference held at Parkland Hospital after the President was pronounced dead, Kilduff would make this statement:

It is my understanding that it entered in the temple, the right temple

[lessthanjakejohn]

apparentl after LHO had died, agents went to the morgue and fingerprinted LHO, then they took his gun and put a fingerprint on it. (using LHO's fingers)

[Onizuka]

"1st SHOT:Struck the President in the neck

2nd SHOT:Struck Governor Connally

3rd SHOT:Struck the President in the head.

This was the conclusion of both the Secret Service and the FBI.

However it would become clear that there was a problem.

THE SHOT THAT MISSED:

And that problem would come in the fact that a bystander James T. Tague who was Standing near the railroad overpass and across the medium was Stuck in the face by either cement particles or bullet fragments. when a bullet had struck the nearby curb."



the magic bullet is born...

[Onizuka]

What is The Single Bullet Theory in a nut shell:The Single Bullet Theory is a Theory that a bullet fired from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building (TSBD) hit the President in the back exited from his throat and then entered Governor Connally's back Shattered five inches of a rib bone, exiting his chest near his right nipple and then struck his right wrist Shattering the radius bone with fragments of the bullet winding up in his lift leg above the knee.

And this is the bullet that the Warren Commission would claim did all of this.CE # 399



that bullet is in awfuly good condition for hitting so much bone.

bullet 1 - fired into cadaver ribs (typical results in test of 100 shots)

bullet 2 - fired at human cadaver wrist (typical results in test of 100 shots)

bullet 3 - magic bullet (did both but somehow perfect shape)

[Onizuka]

What did Governor Connally think about the Single Bullet Theory:

( QUOTE. )"To Me it is just inconceivable that the first shot that went through his throat, his nick entered my back, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, I NEVER WILL BELIEVE THAT, THEY CAN'T RUN ENOUGH TEST TO MAKE ME BELIEVE THAT."

[VimyJ]

Yep. 3 shots 2 hits. 2 hits with one bullet. Oswald had an easy shot. Reread my earlier post regarding bullets soft tissue and decaying energy. That's what happened.

Bullet looks like it has seen some action.

There were experts that denied the DNA results from OJ. There are plenty of crackpots in the world.

The earth is flat.

[lessthanjakejohn]

the point of showing that warren report image is to show that the direction of the bullet was impossible

[Get240DiZzY]

The bullet in the WR didn't even hit his head...

[Onizuka]

if the gunner in the BD was such a crack shot, why did 2 hit in the limo (red) and one miss and hit a curb over 100 yards away (blue)?

[Onizuka]

Yep. 3 shots 2 hits. 2 hits with one bullet. Oswald had an easy shot. Reread my earlier post regarding bullets soft tissue and decaying energy. That's what happened.

Bullet looks like it has seen some action.

There were experts that denied the DNA results from OJ. There are plenty of crackpots in the world.

The earth is flat.

the FBI and SS changed their story to the magic bullet theory AFTER they had learned about the missed shot.

a bullet that hits a human wrist and shatters 5 inches of rib is not going to come out looking perfect. Welcome to the real world.

magic bullet theory:The Single Bullet Theory is a Theory that a bullet fired from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building (TSBD) hit the President in the back exited from his throat and then entered Governor Connally's back Shattered five inches of a rib bone, exiting his chest near his right nipple and then struck his right wrist Shattering the radius bone with fragments of the bullet winding up in his lift leg above the knee.

[Onizuka]

apparentl after LHO had died, agents went to the morgue and fingerprinted LHO, then they took his gun and put a fingerprint on it. (using LHO's fingers)

perfectly posible, thats why the only finger prints found were after LHO's death, even though they fingerprinted the entire 6th floor of the BookD (including the gun and discharged casings) right after JFK's assassination.

[lessthanjakejohn]

i'm sorry, not the morgue, the place that they 'mummify' the body.

I guess the funeral home is what you call it.

[Onizuka]

After the shots Officer Baker entered the main lobby of the Book Depository Building, and asked where the stairs or elevator was, he was then met by Roy Truly the Superintendent of the Building. The two men went through one set of doors, then a second set of swinging doors at "a good trot" to the northwest corner of the floor where Truly hoped to find one of the two freight elevators. But neither elevator was there, Truly pushed the button for the west elevator which operates automatically if the gate is closed, the elevator failed to move so Baker decided to use the stairway witch was also located in the northwest corner of the Building.

Baker rushed up the stairs behind Truly; he had reached the second floor when he noticed through a door window that a man was walking in the ( vestibule or lunchroom ) near the staircase.

The man was Lee Oswald.

< Warren Report > Officer Baker.

Q: And did you go all the way up to the top of the stairs right away.

A: No sir, we didn’t

Q: What happened.

A: As I came out to the second floor there, Mr. Truly was ahead of me, and as I come out I was kind of scanning, you know, the rooms, and I caught a glimpse of this man walking away from this - -I happened to see him through this window in this door. I don’t know how come I saw him, but I had a glimpse of him coming down there.

Q: Where was he coming from, do you know.

A: No sir, All I seen of him was a glimpse of him go away from me.

< END. >

Baker entered the vestibule and at the lunchroom door with gun in hand he called "come here." Oswald turned and walked back toward Baker. Meanwhile Truly missing Baker had turned back down the stairs, and found Baker in the doorway to the lunchroom "facing Lee Harvey Oswald." Baker turned to Truly and said, "Do you know this man, does he work here." Truly replied, "Yes."

Later Baker would recall, the man did not seem to be out of breath; he seemed calm. "He never did say a word or nothing. In fact, he didn’t change his expression one bit."

Later Truly would recall, "He didn’t seem to be excited or overly afraid or anything. He might have been a bit startled, like I might have been if somebody confronted me. But I cannot recall any change in expression of any kind on his face." Truly thought that the officer’s gun at that time appeared to be almost touching the middle portion of Oswald’s body.

It would also be determined that from the time of the last shots. To the time of this encounter was approximately ( 75 – 90 ) seconds.

Oswald would later claim that he was in the lunchroom at the time of the shooting, eating his lunch and drinking a coke.

Truly and officer Baker continued to the roof of the Building.

This Photo, taking by A.P. Photographer James Altgens, And believed to show Lee Oswald in the doorway of the Texas School Book Depository Building at the time of the shooting..