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Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:14 am
OK, back to right wherei left off. Now for the existence of God. This is easy to prove (atleast for me). Just look out side. Or go to the mountians. Lokk around and really think about. For me it is harder to believe that God had nothing to do with Creation than Him creaated Creation. I mean every leaf is different, and just taking a leaf as an example: out technology doubles, our knowledge about things double every 10 years (sorry i dont have the source of this fact, got it from one of those stat books or wuteva u call them), now man has been creating extraordianry stuff almost daily, but if you got the smartest men of the world and the years to come, i bet they could not creat something paper thin, something that flaps in the wind, something that changes colors as the seasons go by, something that falls off and grows back yealry, and this is just a leaf!!!!!!!! i mean take a good study of the human eye or the anatomy of humans, its so complex, it could not have evolved as soemthing had to come of being at the exact same time for us as humans to proper functionally, and to believe in evolution is just luidicris, i mean they have one theory, to back another theory, to back another theory.
Also many say that the Bible is unreliable and changes and is written by men. Well the Bible has been around thousands of years and has not changed if it has, it was nothing significant to prove it wrong or to dissprove its doctrine. And yes men wrote it, BUT it was God that used them. God wrote through them.
Also, about getting to heavens by "good deeds" is not correct. "we are saved through God's grace and mercy, not by works, so that no mna can boast" - almost straight from the Bible (sorry cannot remember the exact verse, PM and i will look it up for u) Jesus Christ died on the cross so that we could have eternal life with Him, He conquered sin, which no human can do. and we all sin, that is a clear fact. And all you have to do to go to heaven is "confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe it in your heart and you will be saved" - almost straight from the Bible as well (PM me). now notice it does not say might be saved, should be, maybe be saved, you WILL be saved. But u must mean it. And that is the start, u do not simply say it and mean it, then turn your back on God. If you truly meant it, everything else will follow. Of course it is not easy, it takes great faith to believe in Jesus. Most ppl dont do it cuz they will get laoughed at or you "cant have fun" as a true Christain. And once you make the decision ot follof Christ it does not become easier, it will prolly become harder, another reason many choose not to follow. But it will be worth, the ultimate prize of of eternal life, the ulitmate prize to have God say "you have doen well my child" i myslef cannot wait for the day i go to heaven. To see God, to ask him all the question that our minds now cant fathom about him. Like i said it takes great faith. and once you truly belive and maybe find a true Christain as your local pastor or sumthin, everything else will follow. I dont know how to end this really long post, but my hope is it reaches someone. take care.
The concept of God includes an existence without a need for His own creation. Quote » and where did he exist before the universe was created? could not have existed in our minds because there were no humans. [/quote] That is an extension of the point I was making. IF you accept the answer I suggested to your question, then there was no God till we humans decided that there must be one.
]. One of the debaters argued that if God could be an absolute, why couldn't the universe be one? He believes that the universe has always been here, and wasn't created, just as I say that God wasn't created