welp she runs, but having idle problems

[1995240sxSE]

ebery time I see that you post I am waiting to scroll down and read I did this and my car is good now. You will get there, stick with it!

[GEO]

Maybe its the tuned ecu..

[j-z]

i dont have a tuned ecu, but i wish i did. its stock with an afc wired into it. i never would of thought this thread would get up to 4 pages holy shlt. the afc has been in there for a year now. this problem just came up out of no where.

[1995240sxSE]

I think that I finally found the root of all my problems! air decel settings were done at dyno shop and were way off causing my idle to be at like 1500-2000. LEAKING OIL sucks too, found them too I think all of em!

[rn240sx]

yeah, but WHAT?

Well all we know is that the car was running right with the afc and B4 the turbo kit was installed..Then u installed the turbo kit and could not keep it to idle right unless u hit the gas pedal.Then out of no-where this electrical problem starts up. U got to start her up and nothing responds, no lights no nothing. You switch out the ecu and same problem.U let it sit for a few days and unplug the ecu, check it and check the harness and plug her back in.. then u get the afc to turn on and mil light comes on. U then hit the ignition ON and OFF about 15 times to make sure its all good. Then the problem comes back.... turn the ignition and nothing.

If u r 100% sure that this is electrical related, i would go back and check everything ELECTRONIC that u installed while doing the turbo kit to see if u drilled any wholes anywhere or moved some wires or disconnected some harness to get this wire thru and forgot to plug it back in.... I dont know what else to tell u.

I want to help u out or even go by ur house but everytime i call u, ur phone is OFF so i have no way of getting to ur place to throw my brain and hands to help out..!! All of us on this forum can only do so much over the internet. We have to be there to see what its doing and NOT doing to understand what to look for...!!

U have spent lots of money on this car for this sh*t to happen and i KNOW ur pissed off..!!! Believe me, we all know. Its like that saying... if its not one thing, its another..!!

[1995240sxSE]

no his problem came up when he left a charger on there for 2 days. I just went back and read this entire thread and it sounds like you fried some wires and your solenoid is garbage!

[j-z]

correct, none of this happened until i had the battery on the charger for two days. after i had it on the charger i went and changed the maf around to test the iacv. when i went to test that, i tried o start her up and all she did was turn over cranking and not firing. i tried like 3 times to fire her up in a row, then right as i was doing that everything just stopped working ie; MIL, AFC, pump. im gonna go out now and take another looksy. like i said i didnt do anything for this to happen. the only thing i can tie in is the charger incident. all i did electrical wise was install a walbro and that worked, installed 3 gauges and those work always, and tried to run a z32 maf but some punk kid off of here sold me a non working one. those are the only things electrical i changed/added. robert, if you want to come by tomorrow like around 5 or 6 ill be here. let me know if you want to and ill give you a call.

[j-z]

this just in!! ok so i was out fuking around with her just now (my car). i turn the key to the on position and all of my stuff comes on MIL, afc, and pump. but this time i noticed that when i would turn the key to start it all of that stuff would instantly turn off. so what does that sound like to yall? ignition switch? cause remember i have no starter action at all. so even though looking at the igniton switch taken apart and looking fine could it be that? or maybe the wire on the ignition switch that actually goes to start the car is shorting out and grounding somewhere?? i dunno.... this is why i hate dealing with electronic shlt.

[rn240sx]

but this time i noticed that when i would turn the key to start it all of that stuff would instantly turn off. so what does that sound like to yall?

Sounds like what a dead battery would do... enough power to light it all up then when u try to put the load on it, u suck up all the power and all the lights go dim or out..!!

[j-z]

yeah thats the first thing i thought my problem was. right when the incident happened i took the battery up to discount and had them test it. i couldnt see the guy test it cause he went in the back and did it. they said it was good, so i when i got home after they charged it i expected her to fire right up. how come sometimes my MIL, afc, and pump will come on and other times it wont? even if the battery was shlt, dont you think the starter would atleast make some kind of noise. it acts as if there isnt even a starter there. maybe ill see if i can try the battery out of my dads f150. hes real anal about shlt like that so i doubt it. oh wait, we have an optime in the RV and i know that thing doesnt have any memory that would be reset. ill prob try the optima tomorrow and see what happens, but i dont think thats it.

[Florida240sx]

I had a battery on the my charger for about 15hrs and it fried the battery.I'm fixin to go to autozone to get a new batteyr for my box truck. I can take a little trip and you can try it first.... Give me a call 386-747-9982. Maybe can help you troubleshoot other things if it isn't the problem.

[j-z]

hey i put the optima on my car and same shlt happens. the next thing im going to do is get a good ignition switch from george @powerline. if that doesnt solve the problem then shes going to enjuku. it going to be weird driving my car for the first time in two-three months without it. this is th elongest ive ever been without my baby. last time i was without it was when i went to colorado and when i first got back in it i though i was in a damn kart lol. this time it will feel like a shifter kart .

[Florida240sx]

I was at enjuku today. Got Chrislis's car started. One of the guys form enjuku thought it was electrical but in reality it was something else.Did you check your ECCS relay under your dash? Sound sliek you just got a bad connection somewhere or a wire shorting/grounding.

[j-z]

oh yeah thats awesome! so what was wrong with his car? yeah i checked my eccs relay quite a few times by opening it up and replacing with know working ones. same thing happens. when i turn the key i can hear the relay click. if its not the ignition switch, which i dont think it is, then i know something is grounding out somewhere that comes off one of the start wires from the ignition switch. my pops said to just test a working switch out just to eliminate the last thing we can. after that and nothing happens shell be on a flat bed off on her way to victory. so did you tow chris' car with your vert?? not unless any of you are master electricians i doubt youll be able to trace down a grounding wire without completely ripping the harness apart. the pros have special tools that let them track down exactly where the problem is within minutes. im not doubting any of yalls capabilities, but this is a motha fuka.

[Luderacer14]

I had the same problem. I have a jwt, 72lbs and crowe cams. I would rev it up and it would sputter and die, battery always got drained. It was my altenator going bad. I replaced it and now it runs like a champ with 14 volt on my safc. Before it was 11v.

[Trigger]

have you tried unhooking the altenator power wires and seeing if that would let you crank it. couldnt really hurt it. although it does some like a wire grounding out. maybe crawl under car and make sure the wires to the starter arent somehow getting shorted out at the clips.

Tim

[j-z]

no i havent tried that but it wouldnt hurt to do it either. i guess i could do the same for the starter as well. welp i went to enjuku today because i was up at georges shop helping out and its right next door. talked to teddy and he couldnt really tell me anything on what it could be, nor could he tell me things to check that i havent already. i also found out that their labo rate for electrical work is $100/hr . it looks like ill be taking her to TRS which my car has been once before for electrical issues. this place specializes in electrical stuff for autos like starters and alternators. it was real cheap to fix my problem last time too and they even pro wired up my electrical fans all for under $100. my problem then was the harness shorting out on the head. it was poping fuses then... not the case here. sooooooo..... hopefully shell get there sometime this week. THANKS A BUNCH TO EVERYONE WHO POSTED IN THIS THREAD FOR TRYING TO HELP ME WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!! i cant wait to post up and say what it was.

[j-z]

and oh yeah i tested my ignition switch in one of georges cars and it works perfect. that was my last resort before i took it somewhere.

[Florida240sx]

I'm a pretty good eletrical guy. I can wire thigns good. I like to start fresh though to eliminate someone elses poor work. So therfore your prioblem is probably in your harness which you can't see visibly. So in this case the tool whihc cna detect the wire is best. Which I don't have. I have yet to mess with my ignition system, so I know little about that. Hopefully they find out what the problem is.....better not be you got your ground and positive wires bakwards lol

[j-z]

lol like i said i wish my problem was as easy as running out of gas. i know its something grounding out because all my accesories come on when i turn it to that on the ign switch. yeah im pretty good at wiring things up too, but not when it comes to diagnosing.

[Florida240sx]

When you taking it to them? Think my car will be up and running this week. We need to have a central FL meet.

[theman4444]

So this may sound like a noob question, but you never took the starter off to get it checked?

[j-z]

thats not my problem.

[jpadilla12]

Hey, I'm down for the Central FL meet. I'm building my car as we speak. I expected to finish it by the end of August.

[rn240sx]

thats not my problem.

How do u know the starter is good..??

[rn240sx]

Hey, I'm down for the Central FL meet.

^ what he said

[j-z]

because im having my problems when i turn my key to the on position which doesnt even engage the starter then. even if the starter was bad it would atleast make a peep. something is grounding out and i cant find it so i lose, car wins. oh well, ive onyl lost twice and they were both electrical diagnosing.

[Florida240sx]

When's it going to the shop???

[rn240sx]

because im having my problems when i turn my key to the on position which doesnt even engage the starter then. even if the starter was bad it would atleast make a peep. something is grounding out and i cant find it so i lose, car wins. oh well, ive onyl lost twice and they were both electrical diagnosing.

ok i understand that u may THINK or even KNOW that it is electrical, but have u even tried to jump the starter manually.. like bypassing the solenoid..??

[j-z]

no i havent tried that, but theres no point if my ecu doesnt even have power. shell be leaving as soon as i get my money from paypal.