WALMART - Racial Incident

[Veriest1]

I never understood america's fear of suppressors.

Seriously, they are a courtesy to people around you!

Actually in some small European countries it's illegal to discharge a firearm without one.

Personally I'm a fan of Czechoslovakia's firearm laws. IIRC, and unless something has changed in the past year since I looked into it, when you come of age you can take a psych eval (and maybe some training classes) and if you pass you get a license to own guns (sorta like a drivers license). At which point you can go buy firearms to your hearts content... and carry them concealed.

Also, there's no reason law abiding citizens shouldn't be able to own full auto weapons of any sort. It's a mostly useless capability in all but a few select instances. I mean have you ever seen the muzzle rise on even a semi-auto AK47? There's a reason the M16's we issue are select fire.

[93coupe]

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[PoorManQ45]

You sir are incorrect. Each state is entirely different and in MA each town is different. You have no idea how hard it is for some of my friends to legally own guns especially in places that they might actually need them to defend themselves or their loved ones, from people who don't care to take the time legally own a fire arm.

You probably don't get the NRA newsletter.

This is changing. Chicago's ban on handguns was recently overturned by the supreme court as a violation of the second amendment.

[snwbrdr435]

You probably don't get the NRA newsletter.

This is changing. Chicago's ban on handguns was recently overturned by the supreme court as a violation of the second amendment.

They just met and talked about it the ruling will come in June.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

due to the stopping power and chance of death compared to a normal bullet they have been outlawed.

*snicker*

I don't see an issue here... Would this be a hindrance of your liberty? It's just a safety protocol because if you do go off the deep end we find you before you kill more people than if we did not know about you, we save lives.

Are you one of the people that complain about privacy right all the time? *just a question, I don't want to debate that*

Of course you don't see an issue. You're selling your freedoms one at a time in exchange for bubble-wrapped clothing, and you're ok with that.

You find me concrete evidence that magazine/clip size has had ANYTHING to do with an increase or decrease in fatalities. If you can't you're nothing more than a frightened child, parroting the lies fed to you.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Personally I'm a fan of Czechoslovakia's firearm laws. IIRC, and unless something has changed in the past year since I looked into it, when you come of age you can take a psych eval (and maybe some training classes) and if you pass you get a license to own guns (sorta like a drivers license). At which point you can go buy firearms to your hearts content... and carry them concealed.

Not quite! No mil surplus ammo, no hollowpoints, no automatic weapons, no "military rifles," no silencers/suppressors. You also need a more stringent license to carry concealed. My NRA-ILA book was publish in 2006, a quick googling shows it's current.

[Space Monkey]

You find me concrete evidence that magazine/clip size has had ANYTHING to do with an increase or decrease in fatalities.

Common sense and simple math are easy concrete evidence that a gun with more bullets has the opportunity to kill more things.

Ignorance Is Bliss.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Common sense and simple math are easy concrete evidence that a gun with more bullets has the opportunity to kill more things.

Ignorance Is Bliss.

Should we ban cars over 100hp, too? Anything more is more opportunity to speed...

Your common sense is broken.

[Veriest1]

Not quite! No mil surplus ammo, no hollowpoints, no automatic weapons, no "military rifles," no silencers/suppressors. You also need a more stringent license to carry concealed. My NRA-ILA book was publish in 2006, a quick googling shows it's current.

Interesting, I'm sure you're right though because my digging was confined to handgun and concealed carry laws.

Ignorance Is Bliss.

Apparently so.

[Space Monkey]

Should we ban cars over 100hp, too? Anything more is more opportunity to speed...

Your common sense is broken.

You're going to compare shootings to speeding?

Also, HP bans are already in affect in both Canada and the USA.

Stop Trolling.

[Solar_Runner]

[Razi]

A decrease in bullet capacity is pointless.You can reload the gun you know....

Just because the gun can hold less bullets doesn't mean the user won't kill more people.

[dre1507]

Jim: So the point of this thread was to.......tell about Walmart's failure of an intercom system?Jane: No, silly. Because Walmart's intercom system is a failure, we have to look at the governmental differences between Canada and the United States on the issue of gun control.

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[Space Monkey]

A decrease in bullet capacity is pointless.You can reload the gun you know....

Your understanding of a gun is very good sir

Any untrained person will not be able to reload the gun without being taken out first. Any trained person would not attempt a mass shooting with a regulated clip...

The point to the clip being regulated at 5 shots if for the least amount of impact a registered gun can make at one given incident.

I understand there are occasions where this will do nothing to help a situation, but there are times if comes in handy and those are the ones that count.

Just because the gun can hold less bullets doesn't mean the user won't kill more people.

It limits the amount of shots the user has at the given time causing the user to put themselves at more risk to be caught or countered at the time of re-load.

All i can do is understand WHY the laws are there. I do not enforce them, nor care they are there as they do not effect me at all.

I do not need a gun to defend myself from the occasional hooligan. If they had a gun and already had it out pointing at me, then my gun would be useless anyways.

[PoorManQ45]

Common sense and simple math are easy concrete evidence that a gun with more bullets has the opportunity to kill more things.

Ignorance Is Bliss.

What? So you are making the assumption that if you give any gun owner a weapon that holds more then the specified number of bullets that they will automatically use them to harm others? That makes no sense.

[Veriest1]

I understand there are occasions where this will do nothing to help a situation, but there are times if comes in handy and those are the ones that count.

I think this is the fundamental difference between many Americans and other country's citizens - we understand that freedom isn't free. It's a shame when the cost is the ultimate price one can pay but it's no reason to reduce the personal liberty or responsibility of the citizenry. This is because it's not really the individuals freedom that matters so much as it is the freedom that comes to the whole population when they collectively retain their individual freedoms.

[ProudNissanFreak]

Pokemon! Gotta catch 'em alllllll

[Urabus GodofTraction]

You're going to compare shootings to speeding?

Also, HP bans are already in affect in both Canada and the USA.

Stop Trolling.

New one! Alcohol! You don't need 80 proof drinks! Everyone should be happy with their 6 proof Bud Lite. Any more and people ruin their and other people's lives! Florida is among several states to ban the sale 40oz bottles. How's that doing to curb drinking problems? I mean, it's sooooo much easier to get drunk off of a 40oz bottle then it is the 32oz bottle stores offer in their place...

I can't think of a single ban or limitation on horsepower in the United States. And horsepower isn't even a constitutionally granted right!

You're an ignorant sheeple (sheerson?). Thank god you can't vote in my country.

Notice how the Canadian has been brainwashed into believing the solution relies on the authorities coming to the rescue...

[S13_love]

You're going to compare shootings to speeding?

I don't see a problem with this.

Also, HP bans are already in affect in both Canada and the USA.

I wasn't aware that we had a HP ban in the U.S. ....oh, wait...we don't.

[snwbrdr435]

New one! Alcohol! You don't need 80 proof drinks! Everyone should be happy with their 6 proof Bud Lite. Any more and people ruin their and other people's lives! Florida is among several states to ban the sale 40oz bottles. How's that doing to curb drinking problems? I mean, it's sooooo much easier to get drunk off of a 40oz bottle then it is the 32oz bottle stores offer in their place...

I can't think of a single ban or limitation on horsepower in the United States. And horsepower isn't even a constitutionally granted right!

You're an ignorant sheeple (sheerson?). Thank god you can't vote in my country.

Notice how the Canadian has been brainwashed into believing the solution relies on the authorities coming to the rescue...

^ Im buying you one if i ever meet you.
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[RicerX]

Common sense and simple math are easy concrete evidence that a gun with more bullets has the opportunity to kill more things.

Ignorance Is Bliss.

Gosh that's such a great idea. Why didn't I think of that? Because obviously people that want to shoot up an embassy are going to follow the gun laws. "I killed twelve people, but I had to reload twice because I was using the proper clip."

[Urabus GodofTraction]

^ Im buying you one if i ever meet you.

I drink Maker's Mark in pretty much every form. On the rocks and with ginger ale top out the list.

[RustyBucket]

Notice how the Canadian has been brainwashed into believing the solution relies on the authorities coming to the rescue...

May I suggest Mr. Pot has a look in the mirror before saying things about Mr. Kettle?

The USA has one of the highest rates of incarceration in the world. That sounds a lot like relying on the authorities coming to the rescue and locking away the "Bad People". There is also the "terrorlst" boogeyman that seems so effective at getting new regulations introduced.

[PoorManQ45]

There is also the "terrorlst" boogeyman that seems so effective at getting new regulations introduced.

Oh Snap!

A man after my own heart!

I agree 100%... If we want to get this thread locked down quickly we can discuss the BS that is "Homeland Security" and this fictitious terrorlst threat.

The USA has one of the highest rates of incarceration in the world. That sounds a lot like relying on the authorities coming to the rescue and locking away the "Bad People".

I can't speak for anyone but my family, but if you commit a crime towards my family on our property you will be shot

[Urabus GodofTraction]

May I suggest Mr. Pot has a look in the mirror before saying things about Mr. Kettle?

The USA has one of the highest rates of incarceration in the world. That sounds a lot like relying on the authorities coming to the rescue and locking away the "Bad People". There is also the "terrorlst" boogeyman that seems so effective at getting new regulations introduced.

You won't hear me unrealistically relying on the authorities, Mr. Bucket (horray, the containers for names theme continues!).

My solution for "Bad People" and terrorists are remarkably similar... two in the chest, one in the head. Also education. I giveth and I taketh.

911 is for telling the coroner to bring the oversized ziplock bags. Also fires.
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[PoorManQ45]

My solution for "Bad People" and terrorists are remarkably similar... two in the chest, one in the head. Also education. I giveth and I taketh.

When in doubt, double tap that bitc*

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

All guns should fire flowers.

[Dattebayo]

Common sense and simple math are easy concrete evidence that a gun with more bullets has the opportunity to kill more things.

You fu*king hypocrite.

[Bmore-coupe]

When in doubt, double tap that bitc*

If that was a Zombieland reference, that movie was great.

[PoorManQ45]

If that was a Zombieland reference, that movie was great.

It was