VH45 to Z32 gearbox adaptor plate.

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I've emailed him already. I am just letting slown know that he isn't the only one. After almost 5 months since my deposit I can post on here.


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pmpmstrb wrote:I've emailed him already. I am just letting slown know that he isn't the only one. After almost 5 months since my deposit I can post on here.
Five months is a long time. Yes you can post on here or anywere. I'm not saying, or trying to say you can't. There's just better ways of doing things. I am in on the buy too, I just chose to talk to John (got an email back the same day) and resolve it rather than just post the problem without his response. He emailed me right back as I'm sure he did you too with a resolution, but you haven't posted that he took care of the problem. It makes him look like he is trying to stiff you, atleast that's the what I got from reading your post.

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I just got an email from him saying he pasted the figures into my email from the math he did for someone else... I dunno I mean there isn't any excuse for that except sloppiness.

anyone wanna buy an adaptor plate?

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prolly a bit late to add this info but.... From an engineering perspective the minimum thickness of the adaptor plate is = 1.5x the THREADED bore it accepts. ie: if the adapter plate has an 8mm(thread) into it then it must be at least (1.5x 8mm = 12mm thick, 10mmbolt~15mmthick).Any counter sunk heads must run through a plate thickness >bolt shank diameter.

hopefully what ive said makes sense, im not always good at explaining things via text.

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oh well I bought some parts for the vert today so I'll be keeping my adaptor can you guys post up when you guy yours? I'm waiting to send money till someone receives one. also found a TT transmission I was looking for today.

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Has anyone heard from John? I payed the remainder of the money for the plate last monday and I have not heard a thing from him since.I have sent him an email and nothing.

If I do not hear from him soon I am just going to do a charge back through paypal.

Anyone have any info or heard anything from him?

Thanks Chris
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slownslurious
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I paid too I got tired of waiting and I have my motor sitting around here. I can't afford to not get this after I have all the money tied up in it. I will book a flight to the UK, find him, and remove all apendages if I dont get this f'in thing soon. I have rage issues.

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Sorry for the delay, mailed you tracking numbers tonight. Got sent to work in France last week on short notice and hadn't done enough copies of the packing list to pass out under the new stricter regs.

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got mine today, finally.

dont know if its worth it yet, still rebuilding the vh but my transmission would be here any day to test fit it.

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I got mine on Friday. I had to pay $150 for brokerage fees. That brings the total cost of this adapter to $1068.00 Canadian . Aanyway I picked up a z32 transmission and starter on the same day, I got a z32 transmission and starter from Japan for $275cnd. I got my car off the rotisserie and on the ground and put the engine and tanny combo in the car for engine and transmission mount mach up. Useing a stock automatic transmission mount from a 240sx almost works dead on, it is only 1/2 - 3/4 of an inch off of the holes and bolts right up to the z32 transmission.

canadiandrifter240sx
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With the car being stripped like this I can pick up the front end with 1 hand. But then you put and engine that big into it and its not so light anymore.

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I am going to have to build a custom shifter linkage.

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i think we are in the same boat, same engine chassis and box - the adaptorwhat chassis is that s14 s13?im doing a s15, (200sx in nz) silviaim using the vg30 startet (for steering rack clearance)have you done your mounts can i have a pic, im lowering the crossmeme 15-20mm iswell for bonnet clearance and weight balance.

for the shifter i was just going to put a rod from that first linkage, meaning 1st is now 2nd 3 now 4th and 5th now rev, but wouldnt take long to get used to would it? would be quicker and more practical.

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I dont get what youre saying about the rod...

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im just wondering, are you sure the rod is in the "neutral" position. Seems weird the Z setup would ahve the shifter rod offset like that.

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slownslurious wrote:I dont get what youre saying about the rod...
I believe he's talking about bolting a shifter directly to that shifter output. Since there wouldn't be any hinge, the pattern would kind of reverse.

With a regular shifter when you push it forward, the lower part of it pulls the linkage backwards. With a solid setup, you push forward and it will go forward. So, left and forward (normally first gear) would now be second gear and so on.

I think that should explain it alright... I've been awake for a bit too long so I could be off.

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You can't attach a shifter directly to coming off at 90* with out a bracket for it to pivot somewhere in between the top of the shifter and where it attaches to the trans.

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Yes, you could, but literally the entire shifter arm would move as you changed gears, and the pattern would be reversed, as previously stated.

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You're right you could, but doing it with one hand without the leverage of the pivot would be nearly impossible while driving.

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That is in nuetral. That is the way it is but in a 300 there is another rod between what you see there and the shifter so it would be centred in the 300. I can't use that rod unless i move the shifter hole back.

I am going to use the same design as the stock 300 but weld a for that will go over the universal you see in the picture ten just build my own wish bone (like the stock one) that is shorter and to the corect spot.

Oh this is an s13 chassis.

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you could also use an early Z31 box. Its the same trans (same bolt pattern) but it has the internal shifter like the 240.

From what I hear it is bolt in.. and people putting in twin turbos like it better than the remote shifter

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hmm I have the twin turbo trans because I have a twin turbo triple disc clutch I'm supposed to be getting soon, so I guess I'll be running into the smae problems. at least I understand it now.

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I have a z31 gear box. That is what i was going to do originaly,however the starter location is not the same and in order to use the z31 starter I would have to trim the block. Also the Z31 has the same internals as a ka (not the same gearing) and I am uncertain it would stand up the abuse I intend to put on this car.

I am shooting for 5-600 HP with 2 GT3076 turbo's and I will be drifting this car almost every weekend in the summer at local tracks.

I was going to use the z31 because I have many ka transmission's laying around and it would be easy for me to swap internals if I were to brake them but I found an unlimited sources for z32tt transmission's from Japan for $250CND.

I don't think the shifter for the z32 will be hard to do.

Chris

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The n/a Z31 trans is the same as the KA trans. The 87-89 Z31T is the stronger one.

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first person to solve the shifter dilemna post pics

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I do not have a shifter yet so I can even attempt to solve it but I will sooner or later. Anyone got a shifter for sale,.Cheap.?

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my tranmission with shifter was shipped from new york like 3 weeks ago but it was in shipping no man's land... the seller didn't give them any contact # and they need to call before they will schedule a residential delivery so it just sat in their warehouse, waiting for my call. They said they will deliver it tomorrow though and its supposed to have the shifter and driveshaft yoke on it. and I should be pulling my old motor out of my car this weekend so maybe I can run some test fits of my engine and transmission and see where it sits. Also need to measure the supercharger on top of the motor to see how tall of a hood scoop I need to build.

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what are the thickness of the adaptor and the crank spacer, any one know?

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the borg warner T-5 available in the 280ZX turboa nd some 300zx turbo's (z31) had a true removable bellsousing, they are pretty much the same as the T-5 found in the early mustangs (pre WC T5) with a different bellhousing an imput shaft, and the tailhousing is different

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gdz1la wrote:i think we are in the same boat, same engine chassis and box - the adaptorwhat chassis is that s14 s13?im doing a s15, (200sx in nz) silviaim using the vg30 startet (for steering rack clearance)have you done your mounts can i have a pic, im lowering the crossmeme 15-20mm iswell for bonnet clearance and weight balance.

for the shifter i was just going to put a rod from that first linkage, meaning 1st is now 2nd 3 now 4th and 5th now rev, but wouldnt take long to get used to would it? would be quicker and more practical.
There is one huge problem with the shifter setup you described. A friend of mine suggeste the same thing, but I had already thought about how it would work and it will be really hard to learn and a good way to blow your engine up.

Normally pulling straight back on a shifter is an upshift, pushing straight forward is a downshift.

Also, and upshift can be forward/right/forward, and downchange can be back/left/back

Well on a linkage with no pivot, 1st gear will be where 2nd gear normally is and 2nd gear will be straight forward, then to get to 3rd gear you will have to do what feels like a 1st-to-4th misshift.

Then straight forward to get 4th gear, which will feel kinda like downshifting.

Now lets say youre in 4th still and wanna go back to 3rd, but you forgot you have crazywackogearbox, so you pull back/left/back and you're now in 1st gear......... Unless your VH likes 12,000rpm it's BOOM......

Here's a pic of what I did on my car with the Z33 trans instead of a pivot cup in order to keep my shifter out of the back seat:










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