v8 swap in an s13

[Aries]

you have to modify the oil pan to fit.the chevy II pan is slightly too large and hits the steering rack.

[Altiman94]

seems like the only ppl here who rag on the v8 powered 240 have never had one. haha, I think aries is the only one who can contribute as to how the car handles and/or doesnt. Put that in your pipe and smoke it..

[PantherRacer]

u sure your stang powered 240 can beat a RB? hmmmm....if so...nevermind...my moms grand cherokee engine would never fit lolol..... but a 1JZ on the other hand...

I still havent heard of an AWD 240! lol anyways, could you turbo that gt motor in your 240? the main thing I'm looking forward to is a turbo car...

[lvgdead]

Actually I am planning to turbo the 5.0 this winter. Was going to supercharge it but the $$ is too high. I got ahold of a t4 and plan to start working on the plumbing come october or november. As for taking an rb took 2 of them one had a huge turbo at cruisefest in chillicothe, Oh Did a light to light on about a 1/4 mile bridge. I was about 3 car lenghts ahead at the next light. The way I figure it I got more performance than they did wiht the RB swap and I did it at less than half the cost. By the time I put at much as an RB motor alone into mine I should be pulling high 9's low 10'sMy plan is to be pulling the front tires up by next summer.

Look for the car at NOPI next year.Come one come all.I may not beat everyone, but I'll have fun showing her off nonetheless.

[pushnlacs]

all i know is droping a v8 into a import is stupid as hell, i think engine swaps are stupid as hell except for the sr20det into a 240 only because thats just putting in the engine thats meant to be in there. other than that i dont dig swaps if the car wasnt meant to be fast then oh well chose a diffrent car(imo) and putting a v8 into a import is just retarded thats a ll their is to it your destroying great enginering and the very thing that makes imports bad ***, whooping big displacment cars with lil 4banders or six's. if you want a v8 get a domestic(americans know v8's) if you want a 4 or a 6 get a import(japanes know them) dont f'in mis match its insulting. plus if you want a 240 drag car only just swap a sr in their build it up and put a big *** turbo on that ***** ,poof, bad *** drag car. yea it will suck on the streets but u said drag only so there you go, thats the only way to go if u want a 240 dragster or go domestic with v8, haha v8 in a import that makes me mad.

[180fan]

Dude a motor swap's a motor swap. KA is what it came with stateside, so based on that logic that's what it should have. The idea of a v8 into an import isn't that new an idea either. I've seen a v8 in a 510 and that thing was reaming people a new one. Dragging only though. Don't think it'd do to well autocrossing but hey whatever floats your boat. Why bother fussing around with "oh yeah that guy sucks cuz he put this and that into his car" seriously who cares? If someone chooses to put a RB26 into a yugo, now I'd be offended there just because the car is so crappy but otherwise what difference does it make?

[Pickalini]

ok, i bet this would sound crazy but how about putting a v8 in the rear of an s13 FB, you know, porsche style. i'm sure it would take a lot of modifications and everything, but after counter weighting it and everything, i'm sure it would be crazy to pull up behind an FB and see a big v8 through the hatch... sound stupid? any ideas on why it wouldn't work? i know this is a little off topic but anyone think about puttin some custom t-tops on an s13, i think it'd look real good...

[MECPInstaller]

"all i know is droping a v8 into a import is stupid as hell"

Not to start anything but the lexus sc400 came with V8....

People are getting too hissy about this V8 in a 240 stuff. Let people do what they want to do. If they wanna drop a domestic v8 or any other engine than our sr, rb, or ca, i give them props, they're thinking outside the box. Who gives a flying F. if the weight distribution is off, or how it handles.

[Aries]

shoot me an email when you've got the turbo on. I'd be interrested in traveling for a good run

[pushnlacs]

you wanna know who cares? i give a flying f***. as someone that loves cars i find it insulting to butcher a fine machine. it is pretty damn stupid to take a import( that didnt come with a v8) and put a v8 in it, the beaty of true high performance imports(4 or 6) is the fact that they perform the way the do with a 4 banger or 6 and not a big old v8.

as much as i dig imports and their enginering if someone was to take a rb26dett and somehow drop it in a dometic i would think thats stupid as hell to. if you wanna go v8 power than go with a car that has a v8 with potential if you wanna go 4 or 6 then get a car with a high performance 4 or 6. dont try to make cars something their not.

like a said i dont even like any swaps if a cars slow and has a weak engine oh well get a car that was meant for performance or if the car already does dont f it up just to put a diffrent engine in it.

like i said the only swap i agree with is a sr into a 240 because that is the engine thats suppose to be in it not the ka, the sr is the original engine not some after thought like the ka that they took from another vehicle just to sell the s chassi in the usa. so dont say because we got the ka thats the engine thats meant to be in there cause no its not, swaping in a sr is makin the car what it was meant to be, not making it something its not and never was.

this is how i feel, i love cars and it just makes me mad to do stupid things to a car and try to make them something they are not. thats just my style iv never really dug full out mix matched cars, its not something that should be done in my opinion not cause it throws of balance and handeling, it has nothing to do with that.(though thats a reason not to also) its just wrong. atleast to me. ok im done preachin

[Ubernoober]

Your opinion is perfectly valid. My opinion that you are nearsighted, foolish, and aren't informed enough to be someone that can truly appreciate fine cars and fine swaps is also perfectly valid.

"balance and handling". I hear this entirely too much. Unless you have the weights of the individual engines and their positions in the chassis you have no room to talk. Educate yourself.

[glitched]

sorry i kinda skipped alot of peoples posts figurin they were alot of opinions, but i saw one that recommended a northstar. I read an artical one night that was basically comparing the 2. even though the northstar has an dohc design vs. pushrod it is less of a performer. it almost goes that for big domestic V8' specifically pushrod is a better design because it actually allows the motor to be smaller and lighter.

compareison z06's pushrod 5.7L 405HP SRX DOHC norhtstar 4.6L 320HPporsche cayenne 4.5L 335HP

even though the zo6's is a "Bigger" engine its actually 6in narrower than the porsche V8 and 2in shorter than caddy's V8 and close in lengththe vettes engine has 1 camshaftand a small drive chain

for specifically domestic v8's less parts, less weight, more reliablity

[GEO]

me and strucutre seen a LS1 swapped into an S13.. no mods, ran a 12.6 i the 1/4th.

[Chingon]

I personally dont care for much domestic. I definitely donr believe in supporting anything that it not modern and high tech in a modern vehicle. Leave the pushrod motors where they belong, in GM crap and in relics of a bygone era. Sean D.

What do you mean by modern or high tech? If you mean DOHC, do you even know how long that's been around?

I've heard this discussion before, along w/the moronic interrogants of...it won't handle well, too heavy, bla, bla, bla....

well..just take a look at this guy's ride:

Granted, it's an fc, but just look how far back that sits...in an s13 it should be almost mr territory... And guess what? He cornered weighted 70 lbs lighter than with his 377lb 13bt long block.

this was later confirmed by another guy doing a similar swap who weighted the ls1 long block at 305lbs in his bathroom scale. The swap was so successful, that he now owns another 2 w/th 6 spd transmission.

now that's a nice package:

You can see it disposing of some tires here:http://www.wrongmotor.com/videos/ls1_dognuts.wmv

anyway, this is the website:http://www.wrongmotor.com


Modified by Chingon at 4:35 AM 9/10/2004

[MECPInstaller]

That engine looks pretty small inside that engine bay, all sorts of room for centerfugial supercharger.

[pushnlacs]

im near sighted and foolish?? man that is the most ignorant thing iv heard. this furom is the best iv been on and everyone is cool as hell except mabey you considering your saying i dont appreciate fine machinary while my whole point is not to butcher fine machinery while your baking up the idea of destroying a fine machine. dont you realize your contradicting yourself???

whether or not putting a v8 into a import is new or not(whitch i never said it was) is not relavent considering iv always though swaps period are pretty stupid, i dont dig make believe cars that are just made up. whitch proves my point that no a swap is not just a swap and a ka is actually the engine that should be in a 240 cause well a s chassi with a sr20det does and has exsisted its called a silvia so droping a sr into a 240 is not creating a make believe car.

i honestly dont get mad or car about what other people think but when it comes to droping a v8 into a import thats meant to be a 4 or 6 or vise versa it honestly pisses me off, as does you saying i have no appreciation for fine machinery while im the one trying protect the original while you back up destroying it.

[Chingon]

im near sighted and foolish?? man that is the most ignorant thing iv heard. this furom is the best iv been on and everyone is cool as hell except mabey you considering your saying i dont appreciate fine machinary while my whole point is not to butcher fine machinery while your baking up the idea of destroying a fine machine. dont you realize your contradicting yourself???

whether or not putting a v8 into a import is new or not(whitch i never said it was) is not relavent considering iv always though swaps period are pretty stupid, i dont dig make believe cars that are just made up. whitch proves my point that no a swap is not just a swap and a ka is actually the engine that should be in a 240 cause well a s chassi with a sr20det does and has exsisted its called a silvia so droping a sr into a 240 is not creating a make believe car.

i honestly dont get mad or car about what other people think but when it comes to droping a v8 into a import thats meant to be a 4 or 6 or vise versa it honestly pisses me off, as does you saying i have no appreciation for fine machinery while im the one trying protect the original while you back up destroying it.

blah, blah, blah....the original engine was the ca18det....at least defend the best of the two....

[pushnlacs]

man i was writing that from my point of veiw because when i think 240 swap i think sr into a s14 but yea swap a ca into it if you doing a s13 but about it being better, i dont know about that.

[Doomed2Walk]

Umm... I think you just need to chill out buddy, his car, his money, not yours. Let him do what he wants, personally I think it's kind of cool he wants a V8, and if he does it, more power to him. BTW, import's do not come in just I4, I6, and V6. Q45, is an Infiniti it also has 8 cylinders, as does the Lexus LS430, SC430, LX470. Don't say they're not true imports because we all know they're still from Japanese companies. So please don't say you're butchering "fine machinery" and what not by doing X swap instead Y swap.If you don't believe in motor swaps other than what was meant for the car, please keep your KA and leave it as is or you will be butchering fine machinery. I mean you don't want to mess with Nissan of North America's super car right? Your car is a 240SX and not a Silvia/200SX so the SR WASN'T meant to be in your car.

[Chingon]

swap a ca into it if you doing a s13 but about it being better, i dont know about that.

well, now you know...

[pushnlacs]

man its really annoying me when u say leave the ka if you dont beieve in swaps, "its a 240sx not a silvia" bla bla bla. i dont look at it that way at all, i look at it as what it really should be. and dont say it should be a 240 w/a ka cause no. if you wanna drive around in a ka powered 240 thats fine do what you wanna do ,just like the guy droping a v8 into a 240 he'll do what he wants but that dont mean its not pretty stupid. cause droping a v8 into a 240 is butchering it just like nissan dropin the ka into it was ,yea they butched their own ride cause they didnt care what us americans wanted they had the real thing in japan. taking a engine out of a car and droping another engine into it that the factory has never put into it at any time(under any name) is butchering it. unless it was a slow pos in the first place that you shouldnt even be trying to mod.

i have ceartine morals/rules when it comes to cars that i take seriously. so do what you want im not trying to stop you but those are the cars id see at i show and would think are a disgrace(oh btw were did you get that i said imports are only 4 or 6??? i said its stupid to put a v8 in a bad *** 4 or 6 cause with imports and performance id only buy a 4 or 6 cause thats the "real" import imo)

[Doomed2Walk]

Haha, that's all good and dandy. Listen, I'm going to tell it to you straight, it doesn't matter what your opinion is because the facts are facts, and they are different from your opinion.

[willswimforfood]

I've always had a huge respect for big 8s. Something stirring about that rumble. If you can get that out of a 240, more power (seriously) to you. If a v8 swap is the way to get the most power to the ground cheapest, and it doesn't throw off the handling too much (possible) then I'd like to see more people do it. No replacement for displacement.

[Drift Machine]

man its really annoying me when u say leave the ka if you dont beieve in swaps, "its a 240sx not a silvia" bla bla bla. i dont look at it that way at all, i look at it as what it really should be. and dont say it should be a 240 w/a ka cause no. if you wanna drive around in a ka powered 240 thats fine do what you wanna do ,just like the guy droping a v8 into a 240 he'll do what he wants but that dont mean its not pretty stupid. cause droping a v8 into a 240 is butchering it just like nissan dropin the ka into it was ,yea they butched their own ride cause they didnt care what us americans wanted they had the real thing in japan. taking a engine out of a car and droping another engine into it that the factory has never put into it at any time(under any name) is butchering it. unless it was a slow pos in the first place that you shouldnt even be trying to mod.

i have ceartine morals/rules when it comes to cars that i take seriously. so do what you want im not trying to stop you but those are the cars id see at i show and would think are a disgrace(oh btw were did you get that i said imports are only 4 or 6??? i said its stupid to put a v8 in a bad *** 4 or 6 cause with imports and performance id only buy a 4 or 6 cause thats the "real" import imo)

Are you high?

I don't think you know how to organize an argument let alone a proper thought. Needless to say I think you opinions are some of the dumbest I have ever heard.

[180fan]

Damn that vette motor in the rx-7 makes me want to crap my pants. Image the throttle response on that sucker...like geez!

The only picture I find disturbing on that site though is this.

http://www.wrongmotor.com/gall...G.htm

looks like the old guy's trying too hard to get that chick lol

[pushnlacs]

man i think your a f'n idiot just for the sake that you say my opinions are dumb. who t. f. are you to say that??? also for the fact that you im(dumb)o have no true respect for automobiles. if you think droping a v8 into a 240 is cool i think you a a dumbass, since your going to insult me.

to the dude saying he has respect for a big v8 hell yea me to. i dig all cars that are bad ***. but a v8 belongs in a old school muscle cars ,a domestic, or anything that came with a powerful v8.

to say my opinion is stupid because i believe its a dumb thing to drop a v8 in a car that has a 4(or vise versa) and trying to make it something its not just proves to me your a moron, that and you thinking you have the right to call my opinion dumb. so f u. i wasnt insulting you or even saying anything personal but you wanna act like a bia ill treat you like one.i guess every furom has the people like you that have no real life and would get the crap kicked out of them selfs all the time in the real world for bitchin so much that they act tough online cause its all they got. for real car lovers expessialy those that really appreciate imports(even those into v8 power)would think this idea is a disgrace.

[MECPInstaller]

Mods is there anyway you can restore the sanity to this thread........

[Ubernoober]

Enough pushnlacs. We understand your position since you have repeatedly insulted people by stating it again and again. We don't need to hear more. And stop trolling, you are tiresome and foul.

[Onizuka]

man i think your a f'n idiot just for the sake that you say my opinions are dumb. who t. f. are you to say that??? also for the fact that you im(dumb)o have no true respect for automobiles. if you think droping a v8 into a 240 is cool i think you a a dumbass, since your going to insult me.

to the dude saying he has respect for a big v8 hell yea me to. i dig all cars that are bad ***. but a v8 belongs in a old school muscle cars ,a domestic, or anything that came with a powerful v8.

to say my opinion is stupid because i believe its a dumb thing to drop a v8 in a car that has a 4(or vise versa) and trying to make it something its not just proves to me your a moron, that and you thinking you have the right to call my opinion dumb. so f u. i wasnt insulting you or even saying anything personal but you wanna act like a bia ill treat you like one.i guess every furom has the people like you that have no real life and would get the crap kicked out of them selfs all the time in the real world for bitchin so much that they act tough online cause its all they got. for real car lovers expessialy those that really appreciate imports(even those into v8 power)would think this idea is a disgrace.

Do you have any automotive respect for carrol shelby? His world-renown Shelby Cobra is essentialy a british roadster (an import), with a big gnarly american V8 in it. Despite being one of the most popular cars on earth, I guess by your logic he was wrong.

Big motors in small cars is as old as auto racing is, you cant say that 100 years of a proven formula is "just wrong".

I personally wouldnt swap an american V8 into an import, its not my style, but I feel absolutly no negativity towards someone who wants to or has.

[pushnlacs]

alright for one thing the guy crying about it being enough, the only reason i keep going is because some one keeps insulting me i never insulted any one i stated my beliefe and then people started bitching and insulting me so yea i replyed.

2nd thing is i never said putting a big ebgine in a small car was new or that that is wrong if thats the way the car was designed originally,cool but for some reason all u can do is ***** instead of listen. i said putting a engine in a car that never had that engine is stupid to me. oh and about the shelby, i dont really dig it. its just not my type a ride.

i really dont get why you keep bitching i dont understand why as people that are suppose to love the 240 you keep complaining about me saying a v8 shouldnt go into it. the engine makes a car so if think a v8 into a 240 is cool that means all you car about is the body and not the enginering that makes it what it is? thats messed up. so if you reply with insults hell yea im goin to reply so your trolling. oh just deal with a discussion and realize you can argue a subject without cryin and bitchin.