v8 swap in an s13

[midnightshadow]

has anyone seen a v8 swap into an s13 chassis? I'm want to do something very different with my car. anyone with info pls let me know.

[QUICKFLOW240]

Hey welcome to the site. Just do a search for v8 or 350 or something like that. I'm sure there are plenty threads on this subject that would help you.

[Nismo_Freak]

Dont haggardize another Japanese import by putting a V8 into it. The swap will cost a considerable amount of money and will throw the whole balance off making the car drive worse than a F-Body.

[pancito]

i know people want to be different but everything has a limit.

in cars $$$ is the limit, if you have it you can do pretty much anything, but if you are really thinking about it, turbo it or drop a CA,SR,RB on it, and call it a day.

If you really want to be different, drop in a RB26DETT engine to it, beat Daunttless to it, and be one of the few (if not the only one), of course $$$ is what matters.

[midnightshadow]

aluminum blocks don't weigh anything. just looking for ideas. after searching around here though looking into DE swap. would like to stay N/A

[ChickenBoo]

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....d=562

It's a thread from about a month ago, they talk about dropping a 350 small block into a 240. Alot of opinions, maybe a better idea of who you could contact. Hope it helps.

[midnightshadow]

thanx

[Stoneage_Turbo]

you know a northstar V8 would probably fit in there with some work ...i wouldnt do it , im more of a DET into a 240 fan but that northstar is fairly narrow and doesnt weigh very much , 300 very relaible horsepower , for someone wanting domestic power in a japanese import ..im going to go wash my hands now

[Aries]

an LT1 from a 94-97 Camaro will fit nicely.All camaro accesories fit, but you need a shot to shorten the drive shaft.

[Aries]

PS...This is my current project...The car should run low 12's on the stock LT1, and be low 11's to high 10's with complete camaro boltons and free mods.(Atleast that's what we're thinking...)

[dankar]

I saw a v8 miata, but not on the race track

[SWIFT_DRIFT]

Quote »The car should run low 12's on the stock LT1, and be low 11's to high 10's with complete camaro boltons [/quote] i would be more proud of those times in an sr or turbo ka...which are all possible. you don't need a large displacement gaymaro engine to do it.

[Tino]

V6 should be the limit on a rice burner. (don't even say nothing cuz thats not a derogatary term)

[Aries]

i would be more proud of those times in an sr or turbo ka...which are all possible. you don't need a large displacement gaymaro engine to do it.

If I had the time to tune it, then I would worry about doing an SR swap.The V8 will be a drag race only car.

Now my turbo KA that I'm working on for my 95 base model...That's a real motor!I'm probably going to have it built by the same guys that assembled Duy's 10.83 second 240SX that was out running arround Houston about a year ago.Last I know of that car it was sold up north of Dallas...

[SeanDean]

I personally dont care for much domestic. I definitely donr believe in supporting anything that it not modern and high tech in a modern vehicle. Leave the pushrod motors where they belong, in GM crap and in relics of a bygone era. Now as for the northstart talk, very cool. I am a big fan of the northstar and it's smaller version, the 4.0 aurora V8. I know of a local yard that will sell the whole engine/transmission combo with harness and cluster for $2500.

You will need a RWD transmission that bolts up, and the only ones that do come off the 60degree GM V6's in the camaros or trucks. Any RWD GM with a 2.8 3.1 or 3.4 should have a transmission thats works. Or atleast have the right bolt pattern. Please tell me you would only consider a manual trans. Problem is, I believe those vehicles only came with 4-spd manuals and 3spd autos.

You might actually be able to use just the bell housing and then find a BorgWarner 5 spd that would bolt to that BH.

I think that would be about the only appropriate domestic engine to consider for a 240. If you would go V6 make sure it is a 60degree V6 so it is even-firing and balanced. 90degree V6's suck and are only a compromise so they can be assembled alongside V8's which are optimally balanced at 90degrees.

I havent priced many Q engines, but why not go for a VH41DE or VH45DE (both Q45 engines). I have no idea what transmission would fit, but i would start with the VG engine series since it's also a V design, it may share the same bolt patern on the bellhousing.

One weird thing about the Q motor is that the intakecmes in on the side and has funny runners that snake their way around and finally make it to the heads. Not sure if it would clear the 240 hood, but it should, and regardless, if I was doing it, I'd make a custom manifold using about 6-8inch runners into a sheet metal aluminum plenum for much more top end power. The Q is heavy so Nissan focused around low end grunt to get that big beast up and going in a 240 you probably couldnt stall it if you popped the clutch at idle. A friend and I had brief plans to do a VH41DETT in his RHD 97 240 but plans were shelved in favor of a much simpler S14 SR20 swap, but know knows..... maybe some day you'll see something like that come from me.. if some doesnt beat me to it...... hehe.

Sean D.

[SeanDean]

Oh, and as far as that Northstar talk, these guys can tell you all you might need to know

http://www.chrfab.com/

Dont let them talk you into some hydramatic or powerglide transmission though. Real cars have 3 pedals.

:oface

Sean D.

[SRdS14]

please don't put a frikken 350 in ur IMPORT! i'm not haggling, but c'mon, be like master p and stay true to the gizzame!~Scott

[SWIFT_DRIFT]

Quote »Now my turbo KA that I'm working on for my 95 base model...That's a real motor![/quote] see hes got a real car as well

alright go ahead and have some fun then, but at least you know which is better :P

[SRdS14]

honestly...a 350 is the easy way out. i know (for me) i could easily go out and buy a mustang roushe edition and drive that around, but i WOULD MUCH RATHER have my 240 with an sr20det in it SMOKING THE **** out of those guys. and the best part is they paid mad $$$ for their car and i am pushing a little 4 banger past them. Imports are sooo much more fun. all the girlies love it too...~Scott

[Tino]

350 in a 240sx that right? or whatever? youll make the car 75% redneck.

[89sxRCR]

Iv been plugging hybrid Z's all over the boards so ill do it here too.. take a look at the 240z v8 swaps. http://www.hybridz.org These cars can handle damn good, and they have enough power to get 10s. Oh and the swap being expensive? If you paid any money for your 240sx then the swap for the datsun is cheaper. Its about 5 grand total, and you can pick up a datsun anywhere for cheap, just be sure its not rusted out. The chevy v8 slips in without problem, no ecu to mess with, no emission standards if its pre 76. enjoy!

[Big Red]

Dont haggardize another Japanese import by putting a V8 into it. The swap will cost a considerable amount of money and will throw the whole balance off making the car drive worse than a F-Body.

:rolleyes um... have you ever driven an F body?

You can compensate the weight by adding counterweights in the trunk (Porsche did this for years in it's 911's, adding 2- 20lb weights behind the front bumpers)

If it's for drag racing you could go for an LT1 or LS1 engine, the LS1 is about 50 lbs lighter and makes about 30-40 hp more than the LT1 but there are many more power adders available for the LT1 than the LS1 so it's up to you.

As for fitting, I'll brake out the tape measure tonight and see, the Tremec T56 transmission will be a tight squeeze (it's huge!).

I don't know if the 240's rear end will hold up with 335HP going to the wheels and you would also need very wide treads to handle the 340 lbs of torque.

It would be an awesome car if you could make it work.

I have heard rumors of dropping a Skyline engine into a 240SX, anyone done this???

[sultan]

if you used a v8 you could still rice it out and put four mufflers on it, you know, the 4 or 5 inch opening coffee cans. that would probably sound cool with an ls1. ls1 has good performance parts for it because you can upgrade it with ls6 stuff and have the horsepower of a vette Z06.

[89sxRCR]

Wow! Gee willikers! Hey, has anybody dropped in a ferrari v12 into a 240sx?? anybody?!?

~~Please no one answer

[Megaseth]

Quote Freethinker:"Dont let them talk you into some hydramatic or powerglide transmission though. Real cars have 3 pedals."

Uhh, not true. cars with out a **** load of torque are great with three pedals, but like this guy said, hes make a drag car. The main problem with those push rod engines of olden days you ragged on is that they made hella loads of torque. if you didnt have an auto. trans, you would just sit there and peel out in all gears. an auto spreds the torque out so you can get some traction. and bye the way, nothing sounds nicer than an old skewl 396, 429, 427, or the king of them all... the 426 Hemi. I dont care how smooth sounding import I4s and V6s are, the sound of raw power and torque is very very nice.

[sultan]

89sxRCR, have you ever priced ferrari engines? for the older engines you have to pay anywhere from 20k to 60k. who knows how much a 575 or enzo engine will run you.

if he's making a drag car it really doesn't matter how large an engine is, unless he's making it street legal and drivable. How about a mid-engined 240? take everything out but the drivers seat and you would have a really light car, and with the engine near the back you wouldn't have to worry about traction as much.

[cndctrdj]

Dont haggardize another Japanese import by putting a V8 into it. The swap will cost a considerable amount of money and will throw the whole balance off making the car drive worse than a F-Body.

whats wrong with an fbody ?

i have an fbody and a 240sx the fbody handles better drifts better accellerates better has a higher top speed has more options as far as upgrading as far as price/performance goes you can't do much better than an fbody

i would be carefull what redneck comments you make cause i am no redneck and i have owned 4 fbodies. how many rednecks you know of driving a zo6 ( pushrod v8 if im not mistaken)

whoever said real cars have 3 pedals, please... the quickest cars on earth 2 pedals. how many 6 sec cars do you know of that have 5 or 6 speed gear boxes.

the 6 cyl gm idea was just bad the aftermarket is not nice to them, i only know of one person who has a 60 degree v6 that runs 13's all motor

as far as someone putting more money into a v8 to make it faster than a 4 .... ha ha i definatly agree that a 426 hemi is the nicest sounding engine ever, as far as the worst sounding engine, the 20 valve viper v10 just sounds bad

you guys just struck a bad cord with me sorry....

[SpeeDDrifT]

i'm not much of a drag racer but i'll try to contribute. does anyone know what the HKS 180sx drag car has in it? if i remember correctly it runs 7's .....ofcourse it's all funny car style. i thought it was a RB26.....?

[Team503]

There's lots of talk of the RB25 and RB26 swaps, but I haven't seen on yet. My understanding is that the motor mounts would have to move 4-5" towards the nose of the car, or the firewall would have to be cut.

As for weights, the guys in the RB subforum have been trying to get the weights of the RBs for quite some time.

[89sxRCR]

Quote »89sxRCR, have you ever priced ferrari engines? for the older engines you have to pay anywhere from 20k to 60k. who knows how much a 575 or enzo engine will run you.[/quote]

Thank you Sultan, you passed my moron test... Obviously if you read my thread you can smell the SARCASM. And my PLEASE DONT ANSWER obviously stumped you as well... congratulations!