v8 swap in an s13

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SilviaJunkie
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hmmmm lemme think american=japanese?? wait, i dont think so. Your minds in the right spot as far as doing different stuff, but i wouldnt go that far. for the money spent on the swap and engine, you could get a nice sized turbo, and have the same effect.


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89sxRCR wrote:Thank you Sultan, you passed my moron test... Obviously if you read my thread you can smell the SARCASM. And my PLEASE DONT ANSWER obviously stumped you as well... congratulations!


i answered specifically because you said not to. i knew you weren't being serious. just because you have a crappy sohc engine doesn't mean you can be an a** in a thread talking about engines. at least my car has a V8. hell, my 81 suzuki has dohc and disc brakes all around, hmm.. does your car have that?

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Quote »i answered specifically because you said not to. i knew you weren't being serious. just because you have a crappy sohc engine doesn't mean you can be an *** in a thread talking about engines. at least my car has a V8. hell, my 81 suzuki has dohc and disc brakes all around, hmm.. does your car have that?[/quote]

Your still a moron then buddy... i am on your side after all, i love v8's. (See my plug of hybrid Z's earlier) You could have added to your "answer" to my question that you said it just because i said i was joking, in that case you are an *** also. And my motorcycle kicks the CRAP out of your v8 ANYDAY so what do i care? (Also for your info, there is a 180sx front clip in my garage, for the millionth time, my car wont be a sohc for long) It is you sir, who is the ***.

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honestly...a 350 is the easy way out. i know (for me) i could easily go out and buy a mustang roushe edition and drive that around, but i WOULD MUCH RATHER have my 240 with an sr20det in it SMOKING THE **** out of those guys. and the best part is they paid mad $$$ for their car and i am pushing a little 4 banger past them. Imports are sooo much more fun. all the girlies love it too...~Scott

The chevy v8 swap into a 240z is cheaper altogether than the sr into 240sx swap if you consider the price of the car, and is actaully legal , pre 76 datsun. Imports are fun, why not add a lot more power with a v8? its called hybrid Zs for a reason, the best of both worlds. The only reason you have to fall back on is just that you dont "like" mixing american with japanese. Lame to me. The girlies would leave you when they see you lose to that v8 :)

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there is now a v8 swap in a kit i have pics

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wow, you're new and here to drum up business.Why don't you talk to those who have done the swap themselves.

Also, if you want to make blatant advertisements please email the admins about becoming a sponsor ;)

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SpeeDDrifT wrote:i'm not much of a drag racer but i'll try to contribute. does anyone know what the HKS 180sx drag car has in it? if i remember correctly it runs 7's .....ofcourse it's all funny car style. i thought it was a RB26.....?


I dunno about that, but JUN has a the Hyper Lemon Silvia that runs 8's and its stock body (none of that tube frame crap) and it uses a SR.

mjc2380
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aries you have a lt1 in a newrer 240 right? im not looking for advertisedment just info if any one has bought the kit

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I dont understand how any of you people who do nothing but bash V8 into imports, can call yourselves enthusiasts. Maybe instead of hating on an idea that you don't agree with, or have interest in, you should give props to the true automobile enthusiasts who takes the time and effort to perform such a rare and difficult swap.Are you people seriously going to more impressed with a DET swap, than a 350 or 302? Now thats stupid.Even more delightful, are quote likes "Building a V8 is too easy, i want to make a slow car fast" But you do nothing but s*** on honda owners, who make even FWD econoboxes fast.The final irony is, that 99% percent of import owners, that rank on domestic cars have never driven, owned, or maybe even never ridden in one, and thats f*** lame.Aries: i cant seem to find a working link to the forum on the limecreek website and i was wondering if they made mounts for a 302 swap.Thanks!

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yeah, our site is all jacked up again.*DOH*

We can make anything you need.The mounts on my car are easily adapted to use Ford uppers for a 302, 331, 347, 351 or 408.

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89sxRCR wrote:Thank you Sultan, you passed my moron test... Obviously if you read my thread you can smell the SARCASM. And my PLEASE DONT ANSWER obviously stumped you as well... congratulations!


rofl:pface

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i have had several v8 domestics a 1979 280zx v8( not a good car to swap a v8 into) a 1972 240z with a v8 and helped on a few other swaps if you take the 240sx chasiss add a cage put in a j30t rear and the brake swap from a 300zxtt all you have left to do is add reliable power i have priced every way to go from the kadet to the rb26dett and a good old carb on a 350 chevy with a t5 out of a camaro will make an easy 400 hp and 400lbft and last the 6500 shift point all day for years and when i get sick of 400 hp all i need is another cam and heads to get another 150 id love to see a kadet last as long as a stock bottom end 350 but im not knocking nissan motors at all i love them just bang for the buck there is no compromise i hate to say it but if people opend there eyes and just did what they want to there car instaed of doing what others did the car scene wouldnt be as taiolerd as it is why not put a rb26dett in a camaro? hp> weight would be awsome and it would be easyer than a v8 to work on?

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Nismo_Freak, I thought I knew you better than that.

Drive worse than F-Body? Stock for stock my 96 TA would be equal if not better than my 240sx for spirited driving around corners and twisties (assuming both cars are new as well), yes its a heavier car but that means nothing to its stability. Its not designed like a 4 door sedan, so just because its heavier doesn't mean its going to a slug at everything it does.

Now my TA has its complete suspension done, and all the modded lil imports around town would be very hard pressed to keep up with me through the twisties.

For the original poster, and to Aries, I think that swap would kick *** and be the ultimate sleeper (with a nice quiet exhaust of course ;) ) BUT, driving my TA and trying to imagine that power in my s13....

SCARY :eek:

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Personally i dont see what all the fuss is about. Im not some *** who thinks only imports are cool and if you have something else you suck. If you are really into cars you should be able to appreciate anything with internal combustion. Notice I didn't say like, but appreciate, you don't have to like everything but why knock it huh? I think some people are mad because they have been beaten by v8's and they really need to vent somewhere else.

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isnt that the truth ive had both imports and domestics as long as its fast who cares

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This is probabbly a "dead thread" to post this in, but--doesn't a V8 weigh significantly more than the RB/CA/SR/KA ([common] S13 swaps) Nissan engines?(And the continuation of that question: would it negatively affect handling?)

I've heard arguments against even RBs because they weigh more and sat further forward and higher up which changes the CG.

I'd much rather take good handling over extreme speed -- give me a second on the track and let me master the hills. Of course, having both would be optimal :-)

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a all cast iron chevy v8 is 575 add a aluminum intake waterpump and heads you take off like 100#S give or take now the t5 im useing weighs 80# the nissan trans is like 125 and dont forget 350cui compared to 140 thats a big diffrence to turbo your ka will cost like 6k to do it right to build a 400 hp chevy with the swap is like 3k and unlimited power potential what will a ka hold like 400 before the crank breaks and i never found a stronger one has any one?

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FOR ALL OF YOU THAT POSTED ABOUT WHAT I SAID...

Put a V8 in a damn 240... now try to outhandle the F-Body ... WHO WOULD WIN... geee... lets see... the F-Body!

All I said is that the V8 will throw off the balance of the 240SX since the car is balanced for an iron block 4 cyl. NOT an iron block V8.

Fukin geniuses ... READ what I posted!

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Funny... the same chassis in Japan is "balanced" with an aluminum-ish 4 cyl :P (I know the weight difference isn't extreme--I wonder how it all stacks up when you count the turbo and accessories--but, ehh? <grin>)

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mjc2380 wrote:what will a ka hold like 400 before the crank breaks and i never found a stronger one has any one?


The stock crank is beefy as hell, its the pistons that are the weak point (and just for the record Aries had a 200 shot of NOS running on a STOCK KA before he swaped a V8 into his car). If you are seeing insane amounts of boost on the KA you could get a JWT crank.

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Nismo_Freak, chill man! Heres what you typed:

The swap will cost a considerable amount of money and will throw the whole balance off making the car drive worse than a F-Body.

Honestly what you wrote can be easily taking the wrong way. Its almost like you're sayin it will make the 240sx worse than an F-Body to drive, as in, that the F-Body is bad for driveability/handling and that the engine in a 240sx would make it even worse than the F-Body already is.

See my point? Don't get all bent out of shape about it, well thats the way I read it and it appears others took it the same way.

chill man, chill. :)

some text can be taken so many ways, including the wrong ways ;)

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just remember to make a fast car you need power and a lot of it not 300 more like 550 to get noticed and it has to handle and stop any one can build a 1/4 mile car but can it stop turn and handle ?

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damn i love the idea of mixing races.. jap and americans.. and i couldve sworn when aries finished and got everything right in the 240ss.. everyone was all up for it.. now all these newbies are talkin smack... DONT HATE!!!

IM VERY IMPRESSED IN WUT ARIES DID AND OPENING THE DOORS FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO SEE.. AND SINCE MY POS KA MOTORS.. NOT MOTOR BUT MOTORS.. ARE PRETTY MUCH JUNK.. I WOULDNT MIND PICKING UP A 305 OR SOMETHING FOR THE SAME PRICE AS A REBUILT LONGBLOCK KA AND DROP IT IN MY 240 S13...SO BACK OFF OF ARIES ALREADY DAMMIT!!!LOL JKJOE

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i got a project 590 (240 + 350) in the works, lets just say the suspension (at least the coilovers) have set me back about 1500 (electronic tien adjustables and other goodies),my quote on the whole subject could prolly be summed up as "cheap american power with import handling"(best of both worlds) its mostly gonna be a drag car for me, but im gonna build the suspension so it hugs the corners

mjc2380
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awsome use 300zx brakes

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a ls1 all aluminum v8 with trans wieghs about as much as an rb25det incling its trans. the balanace would not be that bad 52/48and with some other relocations such as battery and the addition of a rolllll carge would balance it out.

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Wow, I was about to argue that a KAT done RIGHT would not cost 6,000...then I added up what I've spent: 5725...ouch. On the topic of a V8 in a 240...awesome idea :D Who cares who makes it, and the whole low tech bit...shutup, it doesnt matter, power is power and pushrods dont mean the engine is crap, domestic motors DO make good power.

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now we are talking but you can get a old chevy v8 real light so you can keep it cheap

lvgdead
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I've just done a 5.0 mustang gt motor swap into my 1990 240. Cost were minimal. Got a deal on a wrecked stang. Put less than a grand into it total. I smoked a 1992 240, a turbocharged dohc neon and a grand prix gtp first couple of days out of the garage. It is a wicked car. It will demolish an rb and an sr. Currently it is dynoed at 301hp and 376ft/lbs torque. As for handling it didn't change much I can still pull about the same speed around the same corners I did before the swap. If you don't have the g's to shell out for an sr or an rb go domestic. Can't be afraid to get dirty though it's a hella lotta work, but not difficult just tedious.

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I was wondering if you have to use a chevy (2) oil pan or the standard chevy oil pan to clear the cross member. Anyone figure out what other engine fit in the 240?? It's a no brainer folks. Theres a listing of the measurements of all the v8, and you compare the measurement of the 240 engine bay. Can you dig it!!


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