Time For a Upgrade

[eidk]

I Cannot believe how beautiful your car is. Glad to see such craftsmanship and passion put into this car.

After a few vacations (white water rafting/vagas) I will be looking for a clean 91-94 s13 coupe. I want a white one but we will see the availability at the time. I'm very anal about my cars and i prefer to find a car that no one has modded.

I live in milwaukee so i know i won't be finding a none rusted chassis anywhere up here. Where did you pick yours up? I assume I'll have to take a trip down south to pick one up.

Again man, love the car. And what kind of climate controls do you have in your car?

[kyles1988]

One step closer tonight! We got half of the valve springs and retainers done, the rest will be done tomorrow morning. And by we I mean Toby and two of our friends, I fell asleep on the concrete under the car. Feel free to forget about that part when I do cams Tobster!

[kyles1988]

parts are starting to come in!





Couple pics of the full-race downpipe



btw Toby, you owe me! I can barely lift my wet-sanding shoulder today, and my fingers are still bleeding! Sanding a nasty *** 4" aluminum pipe (new intake pipe) from 1pm to 6 pm ftl. For those of you not farmiliar with what that involves...heres a summary

80 grit-120 grit-240 grit-300 grit-400 grit-400 wet sand- 600 wet sand-800 wet sand-1000 wet sand-1200 wet sand-1500 wet.

I think I earned my xbox live gamer tag, TheSandMan yesterday

[codyace]

That's why all of your $1000 manifolds use really thick tubing.

That's the darn truth there. If more people were able to see the difference between a MR and a FR manifold, they'd immediatly see why one's 150 bucks, and one is worth 5x that.

My mani is still being built, i will have pics when its done, but the guy building it explained to me how horrible it is to make a mani like that, even if the tubes are short as hell its still bad. so 2 gates or a no go in my book. each tube has to be separated all the way to the waste gate. there for pressure is equal all the way to the gate if that makes any sense? but with it the way yours is the gate will spike and one side might open it more then the other. just pisses me off seeing full race build something like that. and dont get me wrong thats a nice mani. i hope i made it a lil bit more clear.

Spike? Huh? You're venting off exhaust pressure regardless, so I can't see how it will spike. I know plenty of cars that are pulling off of 2 ports with zero issues in terms of spike, boost control, or response. Obviously venting all 4 would be ideal, but that isn't always possible, nor needed.

The FR manifold is pulling off of each side of the tang flange, thus pulling from each pulse of the engine. I don't see this causing any issue, and working just fine.

btw Toby, you owe me! I can barely lift my wet-sanding shoulder today, and my fingers are still bleeding! Sanding a nasty *** 4" aluminum pipe (new intake pipe) from 1pm to 6 pm ftl. For those of you not farmiliar with what that involves...heres a summary

80 grit-120 grit-240 grit-300 grit-400 grit-400 wet sand- 600 wet sand-800 wet sand-1000 wet sand-1200 wet sand-1500 wet.

I think I earned my xbox live gamer tag, TheSandMan yesterday

LOL, Wet sanding is fun fun fun. If I can, I glass bead everything to start, and then go at it...seems to go much faster for some reason hehe.

[Broadfield]

Spike? Huh? You're venting off exhaust pressure regardless, so I can't see how it will spike. I know plenty of cars that are pulling off of 2 ports with zero issues in terms of spike, boost control, or response. Obviously venting all 4 would be ideal, but that isn't always possible, nor needed.

The FR manifold is pulling off of each side of the tang flange, thus pulling from each pulse of the engine. I don't see this causing any issue, and working just fine.

Yeah, I was hoping you would show up and handle this debate. I didn't think it would matter either, but I'm not an "expert" on the matter.

LOL, Wet sanding is fun fun fun. If I can, I glass bead everything to start, and then go at it...seems to go much faster for some reason hehe.

You bastard, I wish I had a bead blaster..... or free access to one!

[homeslicej2]

...You bastard, I wish I had a bead blaster..... or free access to one!

I wish I had the disposable income to build my 240 like you and Cody have. *sigh* one day.

[DJButton]

No important info here, just good luck with the new parts. I was just mentioning your car to one of the local guys here the other day. I was saying I think you're the only person, who's got S1's in that size that actually pulls them off. But I digress, keep up the good work, if ever I'm a baller I'll drive out there to get some audio work done.

[codyace]

I wish I had the disposable income to build my 240 like you and Cody have. *sigh* one day.

http://www.goarmy.com

They've got a great overseas work plan, where you can get paid 40,000 tax free, and not spend a dime of it. They also have an awesome short term investment program to bring in even more cashola while you're not spending any

That's not to say I also don't work my *** off, and use the Military REAP/GI Bill to cover my school costs

Yeah, I was hoping you would show up and handle this debate. I didn't think it would matter either, but I'm not an "expert" on the matter.

I can't claim to be an engineer either, but for a street car, we're not gonna see much difference btween them. FWD Sentra guys for years have been running modified stock GTiR manifolds, pulling from 2 ports, and not ever having a problem (or anything an EBC couldn't handle)

Quote »You bastard, I wish I had a bead blaster..... or free access to one![/quote]LOL. You'll kill me now for sure....we got it for (essentially) free at the shop! Local place was going out of business, and owed us some money for a job. My dad took the cabinent instead, and we've used it since. Only thing I did was get a different pedal for it off of ebay, as the one with it broke. Black Magic glassbead, medium grade...works awesome

FUll rez, to really see: http://www.codyace.com/gallery...ull=1

That is just a quick example of what it does to the normally ganky aluminum kteller piping. Most people like it just like that....we apply some Eastwood Nylac coating/sealer, and it's the same forever (no greasy fingerprints, or staining)

[kyles1988]

Got a little bit done today.



4 -10 braided nylon AN lines going to where the catchcan will be when that gets here. Custom(of course) T1 Race Devlopment catch can. Still waiting on the exhaust housing to get back from being high-temp coated satin black to finish up the rest.

[inkslingers13]

looking sick man, i just think to my self why FULLRACE wouldn't do it. codyace once again going around like Mr know it all. its ok to be wrong sometimes... and all i was getting at is its not nearly as effective to run a mani like that.

[driftfan420]

so are you all still keeping the ac? and if so what did you have to modify to do so?

[Broadfield]

so are you all still keeping the ac? and if so what did you have to modify to do so?

You bet ya! The manifold is nowhere close to touching the compressor or lines for that matter. I mean not even within 2 inches of it. The only thing I can think of is that most people have S13 SR's and that's what they(Full Race) designed it off of. The S13 AC compressor is deeper and bigger diameter than my S15 compressor. Or people use the KA compressor so they can use the OEM US lines. They simply use a modified bracket like Codyace, however, those are also big compressors.

Don't ask me, but it fits like a champ. I will take some pics of the clearance tomorrow. I forgot to tell Kyle to take some pics of the clearance today.

[ladysman]

i'm still not sure if I would rather finish my car and put it on the dyno or finish yours.

Lets put the damn thing together this weekend. I'll supply the b33r....for myself.

[Broadfield]

Yeah, building it's more fun than driving it! It gives me a big boner....... and there just isn't enough room in my shop for both of us to have one.

So you are just going to have to work on your own car.

[ladysman]

Yeah, building it's more fun than driving it! It gives me a big boner....... and there just isn't enough room in my shop for both of us to have one.

So you are just going to have to work on your own car.

I don't do interior work...just some wiring and turbo installs. What spring is in your gate cause I know you'll forget.

[kyles1988]

Started doin a little mini wire tuck



Little bit of a teaser. As you can tell, far from done, but getting there.

[inkslingers13]

dam thats looking good man! how about another teaser? is the the anti surge housing? i have one to, cant beat a 4in inlet plus it makes your car whistle like a diesel more pics man, this is getting good

[kyles1988]

We're having a little car-working-on-party up at Toby's shop tonight. I'll be taking plenty of progress/teaser pics. We'll be working on our budy Brian's S14 /w S15 SR putting on his Yashio Factory turbo manifold, then Brad's(ladysman's) ~600hp D-Series EG Civic, not sure what we're doing with that... something along the lines of trying to keep it running I imagine, then Toby's car, making various A/N lines, I/C piping, new oil filler relocate(who needs the GReddy kit when you have what he now has?) and then working on the wire tuck for the passneger side. We'll have our hands full, and we'll probably be there till 4 AM haha.
Modified by kyles1988 at 3:54 PM 5/23/2008

[inkslingers13]

sounds fun, im doing some wire tucking to, just got my uper and lower harness in, but i dont know where like three plugs go

[kyles1988]

before



after



just need to do the ground and the power but thats basically finished

and some other new toys:



T-Bolt clamps galore, even these little bad-boys. Got some black Samco hoses instead of the blue, also he changed all of his I/C couplers to black as well.



new project silvia oil filter relocate kit. He used this over the GReddy one b/c it uses real A/N fittings whereas the GReddy kit uses the fake fittings with the clamps that people usually face backwards. Plus he was able to change it to braided nylon instead of stainless. You can also see the Earl's inline fuel filter on the frame rail.

[Broadfield]

Thanks for the mad photo skills!

I hope to have this thing done in about 2-3 weeks. Still waiting on some random parts, especially aluminum piping to fab the intercooler piping.

[xdabsx]

i thought it was crazy clean before but now its even cleaner i hope i could make one of my setups as bada$$ as yours.sell me your old couplers mine are gay

[homeslicej2]

http://www.goarmy.com

They've got a great overseas work plan, where you can get paid 40,000 tax free, and not spend a dime of it. They also have an awesome short term investment program to bring in even more cashola while you're not spending any

That's not to say I also don't work my *** off, and use the Military REAP/GI Bill to cover my school costs

Very true. I almost applied to OCS, but decided instead that I couldn't handle being away from my wife for extended periods of time. We just had our one year anniversary on Memorial Day. I didn't realize you were a service member so I thank you for your service to our country and it's citizenry. Broadfield, your engine bay is so clean, and now with the super-wire tuck, it's looking even better.

[Broadfield]

Thought I would throw up some more teaser/progress pics.

Got my custom catch can in today. Here is a pic next to my old one. Those are -10 fittings to give you an idea how big it is.

[240sxHitman]

all these pics are pure sex. loving the setup

[ladysman]

Tony is the man!

[codyace]

Everytime I click this thread, I go back out to my engine bay to revamp things. Darn you! I like the Evap System setup....some of my honda guys use similar catch boxes and put them up where the OE batteries are on the hondas...

Everything is so perfect! Glad to see someone else using black lines for everything too

However I do have a question -> What throttle body are you using? is that a 70mm GTiR one? I assume that is an adapter plate between the TB and the Plenum....Now if that's just an s15 SR one, I'll feel like a real dummy, but to me it certainly doesn't look the same!

[codyace]

I was going to edit, but I don't want this point lost:

THANK YOU for using an SLR

[Broadfield]

However I do have a question -> What throttle body are you using? is that a 70mm GTiR one? I assume that is an adapter plate between the TB and the Plenum....Now if that's just an s15 SR one, I'll feel like a real dummy, but to me it certainly doesn't look the same!

Thanks for the compliments! Yes, it is a N15 70mm TB with a Tomei adapter.

[ladysman]

I like the Evap System setup....some of my honda guys use similar catch boxes and put them up where the OE batteries are on the hondas...

Where do you think he got the idea.



I'll try and come over tonight after work....pull a huidini