The 'white elephant' SR20DET swap

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u can use a z32 or q45 mafs or just buy an sr one. if u can one from a z32 though or q45 u'll need something like an safc2. a ka24e mafs should work as well iirc. hope that helps next time u might get more help/info starting a new thread or searching. not that i care but some people woudl like their build thread cluttered with questions better asked elsewhere


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well didderson has been helpin me..thats who i was trying to ask so keep it. thanx anywayz...PLEASE HELP! you know where to catch me didderson..

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^ got ya, i wasnt sure if u knew tom or not. if i talk to him today i'll direct him to ur post

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nice_try wrote:yea about that mines gay it didn't come with a stock maf
i got one i will sell you for 75 shipped. ..... tom has bought alot of stuff from me. so he knows i am legit

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Roy are u the guy that messaged me on myspace? I don't remember your name. Sorry if I'm slow man I usually stay off myspace nowadays unless I want to check tour dates of bands.Roy, feel free to add me on AIM: Boardtrickster33, or gmail: [email protected]

You're correct WC/jeff that I am noob at driving my car. I granny shift I'm just learning heh. We were just busin ur balls cuz you're so cocky. Besides, no matter how well you can shift, you can't guarantee that your grinding *** 2nd gear will hold up, so if you want to get smart about shifting maybe you should have a gearbox that works installed on your car. Until u do don't be such an Edouche. I don't have a problem w/ u at all man, but you type stuff on here that is out of character lol.

Idaho is totally legit when it comes to sales, and I know ppl on here can vouch for my sales /shipping rep. Roy, if you're looking for a quick fix for the MAF solution that will enable you to run 325 max hp then you may be interested in the N60 MAF. They are commonly found on 90's maximas. mine was from a 94. You can also get them from RB engines. Same wiring as the Z32, just a different internal resistor.Z32 will enable you to read more airflow if you're interested in boosting past the HP rating that I stated for the N60, but if you're not planning to hit the limit anytime soon (I'm not) then it's much more affordable than a z32. I got my N60 for 26 shipped 2 my door. 4 in 6 out SAFC 2 setting and it works like a charm.If you're just looking to get it running without the custom piggy back fuel /maf software, then just get the stock MAF from idaho.

My idle has been getting better with the warmer weather and just putting miles on the car helps the iacv break in I believe. I'm going to ground the maf wire to the chassis because we hooked both up to regular wire ground but one should be to chassis. I'll see if that helps Idle at all.

Cold start up hasn't been a problem in the last 3 days. She starts up fine on a 12 degree morning within 5 seconds, i just don't let the fuel pump prime as much (assuming that my fpr is tired because of the walbro fuel pump this helps).

oh yeah and the helical diff kicks a$$. I totally reccomend them if you want grip. You can slide just as fine I haven't tried terribly hard to drift because I'm taking baby steps as not to crash, but it's nicely predictable. Another plus to helicals: you only have to change the fluid every 25k as opposed to 6k with clutch type diffs. They have virtually lifetime wear because of the mechanical parts unless you happen to snap worm gears or something.

Alrighty it's time for self defense class lol. My instructors are trained in jujitsu? the really hardcore one.

I'm installing my boost gauge, taking the door chime out, and installing a kicker fuse block for the battery relocation this weekend when greeneyes and me are up at the shop. We'll work on his car too but we're gonna get that ****e done on my car also.

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Didderson wrote:You're correct WC/jeff that I am noob at driving my car. I granny shift I'm just learning heh. We were just busin ur balls cuz you're so cocky. Besides, no matter how well you can shift, you can't guarantee that your grinding *** 2nd gear will hold up, so if you want to get smart about shifting maybe you should have a gearbox that works installed on your car. Until u do don't be such an Edouche. I don't have a problem w/ u at all man, but you type stuff on here that is out of character lol.
i'm sorry man. i didnt mean to come off cocky at all or like someone whos a an e-thug behind their computer and different in person. teh recent comments made in here were all in jest and not to be taken seriously. i shoudl have been more clear on that by using smileys or something. i wasnt saying about ur driving to embarrass u or anything, its not like your expected to master how to drive a car you've never driven before. i just thought it was funny cuz that was the first thing u said when you came over to get ur gauge yesterday. you said that u needed to learn how to shift better, lol. you are correct thoguh, my transmission is weak as hell right now (i'm sure u remember the launch when we were cruising with dan ) theres no doubt in my mind right now u'd take me from a dead stop with ur perfect shifting transmission, hlsd, and smaller (and therefore less laggy) fmic. i'm just curious how the 2 car would stack up though

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White Comet wrote:....... theres no doubt in my mind right now u'd take me from a dead stop with ur perfect shifting transmission, hlsd, and smaller (and therefore less laggy) fmic. i'm just curious how the 2 car would stack up though
haha i supplied him with the less laggy front mount intercooler. haha i can find one for you wc but prices are going up lol. they pull a premium before WC and diderson Race wars.

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Apology accepted, but I should have known you weren't trying to be dumb, just the 2nd post on this page about how n00b i am lol. Its fine doesn't embarrass me cuz i have cavy driving in my blood excuse and really old tires right now. It's hard going from like 80hp to boosted rwd lol. I'm bad at launches too rargg.

On a side note, keegan and I were talking and we both have 4 tires at least to have fun with. His are from the coupe shell, and mine are the 2 sitting in my garage, and my current rear pair barely passes inspection so I'm interested in getting new ones so I'm safer in the rain.This dilemma brings up a need for a parking lot or (drift track even ) practice/fun day. We can search around for stuff and ask ppl near to come. Good way to get an excuse to get rid of those old rotting tires. I'm hopin' u have some to burn, if not, just get some used ones on the like 8 se rims u have lol.

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haha, i was talking to my mom about my build, as neither of my parents have seen my new car yet, and she said that she would pay for my new tires. so yeah, those steelies will get murdered in 1K miles... gotta break the clutch/2way diff in. clutchtype diff ftw.

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Alllllllright. All drama aside, I have a very nice update tonight.

Boost gauge installed. Autometer sport comp 2. Mrgreeneyes halped do a very clean install. Check this ouT lol.

This is my view of the cluster with it in. I can still see the clock and 0 rpms. It blocks off 90mph plus which we don't need anyway for daily driving! After that, who watches the speedo anyway? It's time to watch boost or the track lol if ur drag racin'.

I put the finishing touches on the battery relocation. AKA: a 100 amp fuse/block from Kicker!

Project complete I guess For now.I went to look for a exhaust flange gasket today because I'd like to have new ones for piece of mind. Autozone failed to have any. And I was told by the speed shop after they didnt have any so I should make my own out of pure copper sheeting. That's a great idea so I will as soon as i find copper sheets...^actually a nice pic of my sleepy eyes daily driver mode.Man I need new rims.

One more thing, I hooked up the red button to a special sensor for a kill switch. No it's not fuel pump relay. I wouldn't show u my location for that one. lol. Blue button will signal fog lights when I get some.

Teh end ? for now. I'll do some rear suspension stuff in the spring.

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Didderson wrote:I went to look for a exhaust flange gasket today because I'd like to have new ones for piece of mind. Autozone failed to have any. And I was told by the speed shop after they didnt have any so I should make my own out of pure copper sheeting. That's a great idea so I will as soon as i find copper sheets...
you check the nissan dealership for 300zx gaskets. they used twin t25's. also there is always splparts.com.

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dude. it is coming along nicely. i dont really like how the boost gauge is mounted. but that is a personal opinion..new wheels are in order i believe. lol but hey your rocking the sleeper look.

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congrats on getting it done man. Bet ya cant wait for the roads to get all salted up for this nasty weather that supposed to be coming tomorrow. As far as your idle, i had my car out a couple times this winter and on the reallllly cold days it was bouncy for a bit, you shouldnt have to worry about it when it warms up outside though.

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Hey thanks for the warning derrick lol. I don't research weather but I'll probably drive the cavy to class friday (today now) if it's bad. I should be back by noon if it snows afterwards. I don't want to drive the cav lol. It sucks. The stereo is non existant, 3 gear automatic means it gets worse highway mileage than my SR. Just so many reasons. seats are uncomfortable. It's umm slow and fwd? lolI should look up how far u are from us in Lanc. I'm looking forward to chillin w/ the local nissan crew when it gets warm.

Yeah automato I told those guys today i was looking for the 300zx TT gaskets but they still had none. I'll be purchasing online or making them outta copper if I don't find something.
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yeah i rocked the 97 ford taurus to class today, prob around for the rest of the weekend till the roads clean up too. But im about 1-1 1/2 away from lancaster not far at all. I have some friends here that wanna do a meet sometime. The one kid is a photographer/web designer so he could hook us up with a pretty good photoshoot.

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photoshoot/ meet sounds good, im in

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Hellz yeah definitely a good idea man. Whenever you're more sure about timing hit me up on aim or gmail thru the profile.WC stopped over this morning because it was too sleety for class today. I wasn't about to drive an hour to h-Burg for a 50min class, and neither was he toward reading.So thankfully I don't have to drive the cav and I'm working on fixing WC's broken CF invader hood to go on my car when complete.

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Hey.. how do you like that bov? I bought one and have never used it because my sr came with a blitz bov on it.

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What you want for the ka exhaust manny (if you haven't already sold it)?

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i want to see pics of this carbon fiberhood. and see waht exactly you are fixing on it

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idahotuner wrote:i want to see pics of this carbon fiberhood. and see waht exactly you are fixing on it
Gonna be hard man. I would but my 'rents took the camera to holland for the week. I could get phone photos but they won't be as nice. Eh alright I'll do it tomorrow.

Sry the manifold is sold.sxslut, I love the bov actually. It's self regulating just like a greddy push type. It's one of the oldest hks bov's iv seen, so it's not an ssqv, it just says super blow off valve. Non sequential. It sounds just like the sequential though. No skipping crappy sounds I like it more than the sqv actually. Although where I mounted it it is harder to hear the sound it makes, but I like it that way.


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idahotuner wrote:i want to see pics of this carbon fiberhood. and see waht exactly you are fixing on it
its the hood thats on my car. he was my old one but same design

im really anxious to see how the hood comes out, swing by sometime today to pick up the sander. i really hope the hood comes out nicely, then when people are like "wow thats a really nice hood" u can tell em u got it for free

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hey didderson or WC, if you guys see kiet around, ask him if he is interested in trading his volks for my works and gts rims. haha, i'm to tight on budget to buy new ones and thought maybe he'd be interested in doing a straight trade with his set for both of mine. i just want something wider so i can fit some bigger tires on. sorry to crash your thread didderson, but no pm's so i didn't want to start a new thread.

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i'll ask him next time i see him but u dont want those volks, iirc theyre only 7 inches wide and they have a pretty sunken offset

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White Comet wrote:i'll ask him next time i see him but u dont want those volks, iirc theyre only 7 inches wide and they have a pretty sunken offset
well i know the offset sucks, but i'll just get some spacers. if i remember correctly, they are 8" wide. if they are 8", i could at least fit some 245's on there.

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u might be right, but i thought kiet said they were 7, i'll talk to him and find out

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Automato wrote:
well i know the offset sucks, but i'll just get some spacers. if i remember correctly, they are 8" wide. if they are 8", i could at least fit some 245's on there.
you want the tire about equal with the wheel. 245's are 10 inches from side walls to side wall. that is an inch hang over on either side of the wheel. that would make for alot of sidewall flex while going around corners and such.

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turns out i was wrong, hahaha. i guess i have to go and do more research again. hey, we are all here to learn right?
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Automato wrote:
well it all depends on what you actually mean by side wall to side wall. but base off of your further explanation, i think you have the tire calculations confused. for example, 245/35/18 means that the tire side walls and contact patch going from one side of the wheel to the other is a total of 245mm. This means that it is roughly 9.65" all together. then take into account the middle number which is 35, which means that 35% of 245mm makes up the side walls. when you calculate it out, the side walls are about 85.7mm or 3.38". so take 9.65" - 3.38" for the side walls taken into account and you get 6.27" on technically the "contact" patch. that is still less then 8" and there is no hang over. at this point it comes down the to construction/design of the sidewall that determines of the tire is stretched or flush with the rim. but most likely, it will not bulge over. and if it does, it will not bulge up to 1" on each side as stated.
nice info. yes i was a little wrong on my info. i thought the 35% was just a ratio comparing the side wall to side wall to the heigth of the side wall.

you seem to be alot smarter on this. so i got a question. for 17X9 wheel. if i run a 235/45 would that be a good size for 9 inches wide?

/sorry tom for the thread jack/

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yeah sorry for thread jacking as well. yeah idaho, automato really knows his stuff. and never doubt and asian when it comes to math


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