STILLEN Lightweight Pulleys - Introductory Offer!

[dangeris]

Just installed my Lightweight Crank PulleyTheres a bit of difference in the speed it revs and unrevs and the acceleration is definately smoother, however, it wasn't close to the gains I expected but I should have known I wouldn't have seen much of a change when compared to a underdrive pulley. Not worth the cost in my opinion.

alright im probably not getting this now. i think i'd rather save up for some eibachs. my car is flying

First off, bhs07c coupe is a 2.5 which means the pulley he bought is a standard pulley but lighter. Kyle had already said that the 2.5 pulleys probably won't see a lot of gains.

In contrast, you have the 3.5 which those are underdrive pulleys. You'll see a difference in that style pulley!

[spockrock]

Just installed my Lightweight Crank PulleyTheres a bit of difference in the speed it revs and unrevs and the acceleration is definately smoother, however, it wasn't close to the gains I expected but I should have known I wouldn't have seen much of a change when compared to a underdrive pulley. Not worth the cost in my opinion.

before I say I told you so, you don't any numbers before or after? 1/4 mile runs not dyno's you wont see lightened pulley gains on a dyno.

and dangeris is right with the 3.5s you should see some nice gains, and it will amplify any mods you have to the car now, intake, exhaust, turbo, etc.

The only thing holding me back is warranty issues, does anyone have any info on this??

[dangeris]

The only thing holding me back is warranty issues, does anyone have any info on this??

I wouldn't worry about that too much...in the US, there's the Magnuson-Moss Act where the manufacturer (nissan) must prove that the part installed had a direct impact or failure to the part in question. Meaning, if you installed the pulley, Nissan has to prove that the pulley had a direct cause of failure to like say..the camshaft.

Another member mentioned on here that Canada has a similar act but I'm not sure what that act is called...

[RobPaulson]

I wouldn't worry about that too much...in the US, there's the Magnuson-Moss Act where the manufacturer (nissan) must prove that the part installed had a direct impact or failure to the part in question. Meaning, if you installed the pulley, Nissan has to prove that the pulley had a direct cause of failure to like say..the camshaft.

Another member mentioned on here that Canada has a similar act but I'm not sure what that act is called...

how is this viewed though . . . is it like . . . guilty until proven innocent by the consumer because nissan refuses to back their warranty?

EDIT: going to leave the above but i thought of a better way to ask my question:Whose responsibility is it to prove cause of damage?

[shmack1388]

Just installed my Lightweight Crank PulleyTheres a bit of difference in the speed it revs and unrevs and the acceleration is definately smoother, however, it wasn't close to the gains I expected but I should have known I wouldn't have seen much of a change when compared to a underdrive pulley. Not worth the cost in my opinion.

I just installed my Underdrive Pully from Stillen... and i have a 3.5. I can feel a big difference in acceleration and performance, however, it does feel like the steering is a little harder but overall it was a very good buy.. i love it. ther install only took me bout 30 min to 45 mins, but you do need the pully puller without that u wont get it off. I have picture of the install but not sure how to put them on the forum, so if yall can help me out with that i would be glad to put them on

[dangeris]

how is this viewed though . . . is it like . . . guilty until proven innocent by the consumer because nissan refuses to back their warranty?

EDIT: going to leave the above but i thought of a better way to ask my question:Whose responsibility is it to prove cause of damage?

To answer your question,...Nissan has the burden of proof to prove that the installed part was the direct cause of the failure.

So..if you buy the pulley and say the motor blows because the camshaft broke in half or a rod went through the block, Nissan has to prove the the installation of the pulley caused that.

[dangeris]

I just installed my Underdrive Pully from Stillen... and i have a 3.5. I can feel a big difference in acceleration and performance, however, it does feel like the steering is a little harder but overall it was a very good buy.. i love it. ther install only took me bout 30 min to 45 mins, but you do need the pully puller without that u wont get it off. I have picture of the install but not sure how to put them on the forum, so if yall can help me out with that i would be glad to put them on

Sent you an email...

[dldjros69]

I have picture of the install but not sure how to put them on the forum, so if yall can help me out with that i would be glad to put them on

get a photobucket account and copy and paste the img code here

[dangeris]

get a photobucket account and copy and paste the img code here

or you can do that

[RobPaulson]

get a photobucket account and copy and paste the img code here

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JUST ORDERED MINE . . . lol saw the price ended on the 15th . . . i had to get it . . . WW0000H000000!!!!! lol

[mcheddadi]

I just installed my Underdrive Pully from Stillen... and i have a 3.5. I can feel a big difference in acceleration and performance, however, it does feel like the steering is a little harder but overall it was a very good buy.. i love it. ther install only took me bout 30 min to 45 mins, but you do need the pully puller without that u wont get it off. I have picture of the install but not sure how to put them on the forum, so if yall can help me out with that i would be glad to put them on

nice!! steering is harder? thats weird, power steering is getting affected by this?

[dangeris]

nice!! steering is harder? thats weird, power steering is getting affected by this?

I would think so since it's a uni-belt design

[shmack1388]

nice!! steering is harder? thats weird, power steering is getting affected by this?

that is what i was tryin to figure out.. dont get me wrong the ride and still smooth as hell.. but if r OCD like me u will feel these thing

[shmack1388]

Sent you an email...

i think it would be easier to do i that way.. when i get off of work ill send it to ya

[maxentropy]

nice!! steering is harder? thats weird, power steering is getting affected by this?

Someone please clear this up? Does this new belt for the 3.5 make the steering more difficult?

Do any 3.5ers have this installed with the BOSE system? Crank the bass up and tell me if your headlights flicker...

[RobPaulson]

Someone please clear this up? Does this new belt for the 3.5 make the steering more difficult?

Do any 3.5ers have this installed with the BOSE system? Crank the bass up and tell me if your headlights flicker...

. . . dont say that!!!!!! LOL I have a 3.5 with BOSE and an aftermarket headunit, sub+amp (500W), if i have to put any more money into this mod because of power issues im gona be F'n pissed

[Team STILLEN]

Someone please clear this up? Does this new belt for the 3.5 make the steering more difficult?

The belt is a large serpentine belt that hits all of the accessories, including the power steering. Running that accessory slower like the others will free up horsepower, and that would be the same for the p/s pump.

It's not a huge difference, it's just a little firmer, if there was no power steering assist you'd know it.. it would be a pain to even turn the wheel (try it with your car off...)

In a short amount of time, that will feel "normal", it's just a matter of instantaneous changes, just like the increase in power output.

[RobPaulson]

The belt is a large serpentine belt that hits all of the accessories, including the power steering. Running that accessory slower like the others will free up horsepower, and that would be the same for the p/s pump.

It's not a huge difference, it's just a little firmer, if there was no power steering assist you'd know it.. it would be a pain to even turn the wheel (try it with your car off...)

In a short amount of time, that will feel "normal", it's just a matter of instantaneous changes, just like the increase in power output.

so what would actually need to be done if it was found that after installation, the alternator was not producing enough power?

second battery? some kind of alternator modification?? or maybe a different alternator?

i am pretty sure this wont happen but i like to know all potentials . . .

also, to stillens peeps in here, A+ once again on the way you guys do business, i ordered at 1pm EST and just got a confirmation email that my order will be shipped today. Impressive as always, thanks guys!

[maxentropy]

so what would actually need to be done if it was found that after installation, the alternator was not producing enough power?

second battery? some kind of alternator modification?? or maybe a different alternator?

i am pretty sure this wont happen but i like to know all potentials . . .

also, to stillens peeps in here, A+ once again on the way you guys do business, i ordered at 1pm EST and just got a confirmation email that my order will be shipped today. Impressive as always, thanks guys!

Rob, I wouldn't be worried. It sounds like the amount of power loss to accessories is very very minimal. I'd like to hear a review from a 3.5er since the 2.5 pulley really won't do anything but make the car a few ounces lighter.

Once a 3.5er gets the underdrive pulley, make sure to include acceleration gains, any new/different noise from the pulley, any flickering of headlights when Bose system is loud and bass is turned up, steering wheel more difficult to turn, etc...

[shmack1388]

Rob, I wouldn't be worried. It sounds like the amount of power loss to accessories is very very minimal. I'd like to hear a review from a 3.5er since the 2.5 pulley really won't do anything but make the car a few ounces lighter.

Once a 3.5er gets the underdrive pulley, make sure to include acceleration gains, any new/different noise from the pulley, any flickering of headlights when Bose system is loud and bass is turned up, steering wheel more difficult to turn, etc...

I have installed the pulley and i have a 3.5.. in the beginning the steering was a alittle stiff but after driving it for a couple of days it went back to normal. i dont have BOSe system but i do have some aftermarket stereo and subs.. and my headlight do not flicker. as for acceleration i could deff feel it, for example my friend has a trailblazer SS with rims and alot of of aftermarket stereo ****.. and we race i oull bout a car or a car in a half in front of him... now he just installed a programmer about a week ago and beat me pretty bad... just yesterday i called him again (this is with the pulley installed) and we were die even noone pulled on anyone.. and yes it was from a dig not from a roll. u be the judge..

Stillen great job

also pic of the install son to come

[RobPaulson]

Stillen great job

extremely comforting and good to hear!!!! cant wait to get mine installed!!!!!!

(WTF is the code for the dancing smiley, the one that dances like the peanutbutterjelly banana lol)

AND TO ALL THOSE CONSIDERING THIS MOD:

February 15th for the introductory pricing..

[Mr.Coupe]

I got mine installed on Tuesday and dude you can feel the difference. I feel a faster throttle responce, quicker revs and smoother ride. I recommend this upgrade to anyone.

Ricky C.

[EzeebMOS3]

like many, I love to hear about new performance mods coming out for the A/C. I am however am a bit worried about some of the repercussions this specific part COULD have on our car. I called my friend who owns a local Race shop that specializes in custom work and rally/hill climb events. He told me that he was not sure if it was worth it to purchase this because he has never seen any real HP gains. He said you might get a few (1 or maybe 2) HP for a couple hundred bucks, which seems a bit steep. Also he said you could potentially cause damage on parts that run off the belt that are not designed to rotate faster than stock such as the alternator. I Believe he said that running these parts faster could spin a bearing?

Any responses to this? I really hope that he's just misinformed, however judging the work these guys do and the knowledge/expertise they have I believe they are right.

[dldjros69]

EZe

for the 2.5 there is only maybe a 1 or 2 hp gain in first gear.

but for the 3.5 since it is a under drive pulley there are gains to be had

The Key here is (under) drive. The alternator actually runs slower, as do the other parts like the power steering pump.

The pulley weighs less and spins the belt slower which takes pressure off of the crank. That is where the power is gained.

I think your guy may have things backwards...

hopefully i didnt butcher this to bad, im sure others will weigh in.

[EzeebMOS3]

Maybe he thought i was talking about Non under drive pulleys?

Won't this cause the parts running off the belt to spin faster since their is less rotating mass? Forgive me if my physics is not up to par, haha.
Modified by EzeebMOS3 at 2:10 PM 2/12/2009

[dldjros69]

It causes the belt to run slower, thus underdriving the alternator, and other parts. This mod makes the crank work less.

[dangeris]

Ordered mine today! Hopefully it'll get here before next weekend

[Jose3.5]

I got mine installed on Tuesday and dude you can feel the difference. I feel a faster throttle responce, quicker revs and smoother ride. I recommend this upgrade to anyone.

Ricky C.

Where did you go to install it and how much?

[GreyZone]

Just ordered mine...didnt know about the 15th thing until I read thrgouh the thread, but I was planning on getting this anyway...for the 3.5SE its a sure bet thing (minus the mega sterero multiamp issues of course).

[brandonbeeb]

anyone going to do a write up for instructions?