SSAUTOCHROME N1 style duals; A review or how the world likes to screw MR RobertD

[mrflip69]

The dual pipes... well Apexi's own words, they say it helps maintain mid-range torque, while still providing the overall gains of a larger diameter single piping exhaust, without restricting on flow (since the diameter of the 2 smaller pipes sums up as larger than a single 3 in...)

Kinda makes sense, but sounds like marketing to me...

[Chingon]

No pics? This is the proof?

Heck if I believed everything that was written on the internet, I'd have a 14 inch pen15 and be earning $14,000 a week from my home.

The inside of the exhaust is uncoated from what I understand. I don't need proof to know that combustion produces water vapor and that simple steel alloys oxidize w/water. Take a chemistry class, it'll enlighten you some.

[GEO]

i read that article on ziliva.. seems to me he brought an APEXI STYLE N1 exhaust canister and had it weled to an exhaust system... I need pics of APEXI N1 exhuast systems RUSTING for it to nbe confirmed. As of right now, its all bullshiiiit..

[Chingon]

i read that article on ziliva.. seems to me he brought an APEXI STYLE N1 exhaust canister and had it weled to an exhaust system... I need pics of APEXI N1 exhuast systems RUSTING for it to nbe confirmed. As of right now, its all bullshiiiit..

I think you are confusing threads. I seem to remember the one you are talking about however.

ive had my n1 exhaust for alittle more than 2 years(8,000-10,000miles max never driven in snow and maybe 5 times in rain) and it has a HUGE hole rusted in the back of the muffler but the coating is still on it so i must have rusted out from the inside so theres nothing i could have done to prevent this. I called apex'i today to ask about replacing the exhaust or maybe just the muffler and they said.."theirs nothing we can do...its past one year" now i find this to be absolutely retarded since i dont think there is anything i could have done to prevent it and i have not put it through anything that should cause this kind of rust. after several different tries i asked if there was anyone else i could possibly talk that could help me out or at least listen to what i have to say...his response... "no"....i was shocked by this response...just "no" thats it... WTF.... i would expect this level of customer support from Ractive or APC(btw i know people that have had both of these brands for atleast 3-4 years and had ZERO problems out of them) but not Apex'i....i spent the extra money for quality and a company that stands behind its products... i now see that i was wrong. i am definately going to think twice before buying anything from them again

this happened to my n1 as well-apex told me the same thing, honsetly i didn't think they would do anything any way worth a try though........just re-welded my can, it sounds the same. yeah it sucks but i've had to deal with worse things

yeah man, the same thing just happened to mine as well. rusted out right by the exhaust hanger closet to the wheel well. Although mine is a dd and has seen snow, but also had it for two years. I'm going to an ss or titanium exhaust system next myself. And i think my mechanic told me that HKS exhaust are the same way, they haven't changed the coated metal to ss yet but i guess he said greddy did.

i think this is common with catback apexi n1 style exhaust, alot of people i knew either had it rusted and fell apart, including me, i had mine for 3yrs and the whole back side of the canister rusted and fell off, i was amazed it still held together and not collapse, and it been garage kept but i think the few days of snow/salt affected it, also it started it really show signs of it falling apart is right after a road trip i took and when i came back the exhuast gases were exiting through the back side near my gas tank/rear wheel, well after that i replaced it with full stainless catback hoping this wil last a little longer

I also remember reading that since the apexi N1 angles up slightly it has a tendency to trap water in the canister so the rear/bottom of the canister is suspect to rust from the inside out.

Mine has rust on it too, I figure it'll eat it's way through in less than a year. Almost all decent exhausts are stainless nowadays so maybe it's time to upgrade.

5 users in that thread alone. If that's not proof enough, then **** it..

[GEO]

That MAKES zero sense since the canister is STAINLESS-STEEL:

The polished SUS 304 stainless steel canister features robotic TIG welding for an immaculate finish and years of reliable performance.

[TachyonS14]

Why are you guys STILL fighting over this? Who cares of it rusts or not. And even if it DOESN'T rust, the ssautochrome exhaust is better simply by the shear price differance. It just comes off as you trying to justify your purchase to yourself. If you are happy with your exhaust, move along.

[onlyzenki]

geo you have the real exhaust , the other is fake. your a baller, they arent get over it dude

[youngmanvr4]

I've had mind for about a month or so now. Its ok, if I were to do it again I would get something single not dual.

Fitment is super poor, I had to take a hammer to 3 places just so it wont make a horrable viberation noise everytime you let off the gas. Then the exhuast hanger right behind the axel doesn't even come close to fitting so I have to take a torch and bent the hanger (piping side) just do it doesn't rub on the frame. Its about 1 1/2 to long. Cutting and welding would do the job too. If I dont get that fixed I still get a that horrable viberation noise. It shakes all most everything in the car and you cant even hear over the stereo. To add on that I've had 2 exhuast leaks with the thing (where the flanges are).

The looks are sweet, the stainless steel is sweet, and its really loud. It gets quiter from around 72+ mph, but below that its pretyy loud. I just made a 1,800 mile trip with it and I just learned to tune it out. Over all I like it, I'll like it even more when I get the exhuast leaks fixed and the hanger bent.

[koukimon]

hmmm interesting is yours for the S13 or the S14. nothing hits on mine, nor did enything have to be bent. also your hangar setup is much diffrent than mine. thats a thinker? hmmmm

[gunmetal180]

good job on the write up. i found it very informative. me personally im not into the duals dont like the stock one i have and im surely not going to buy another duals to replace it with. but over its nice looking me personally im into the megan racing drift spec. really nice exhaust not really that expensive. and hell since im going to buy their coilover set hell i might as well buy the exhaust, c pillar bar and whatever other stuff i can find from them. including short shifter. so far i think their stuff is pretty damn great. anyway great job koukimon. dont worry about all the flamers on this site. they just love to start s.h.i.t as usual but they wouldnt ever say it to anyones face so just shrug it off. damn i just realized how much crap i typed. alright peace

[koukimon]

thanks for the vote of confidence, and good luck with your project megan heheheh you should get a sticker that says thatPROJECTMEGAN BIAAAACH

ps lemme know about the megan products you get. they have pretty resonable prices on most of their gear

[drifter_for_life06]

so what ever happened about you never posting here again?

i was looking forward to that

[youngmanvr4]

I have a s13.

[GEO]

Ok Ok whatever, keep buying these SUPERIOR SSA AUTO CHROMEZ parts... We jsut don't want you to post your problems on this forum once they arise.

[emperor_lunchbox]

This is getting to be ridiculous. How many people on this forum have ebay parts or "inferior" brand names and don't get this much ridicule. Koukimon is simply providing his findings on a cheaper alternative to the high price "names" like Apexi. GEO, we get it your happy with your Apexi, move on already.I also think that its rude to tell koukimon if he has a problem with his exhaust you dont want to see his post. Dude, thats harsh. I don't want to come accross like an a$$hole, but, seriously this thread is about the exhaust, not which exhaust is better. GEO you should take it easy, being a senior member and all.C'mon guys play nice.

[StrangeLove]

listen to me u f*ucking *******. i made this review for this community. i found a well made product, made from full stainless(not mild steel which is what APEX uses) with mild proformance for a good quality price. why do you have to **** on this GEO? is it becuase your car is an automatic? anyways do some reserch, type in apexn1dual into the the serch here on the board, and see for your self how many ****ty mild steel apex mufflers have rusted out. i cant spend 475$ on a peice of **** exashust that is going to rust out on me, i leave that to you, and for your retatded information the exahust is made my a company called XSpower. ssautochrome is just the retailer u stupid ****i*g pu**y. and by the way let me know when your JDM SUPPA TITE DRIFTZ 500 DOLLA MAKE U HOLLA APEX-i exahuast turns to iron oxide from the cainster back. ok. ok.

P.S. your negitvity is not needed here GEO take that to the civic board where that kind of childish behavior belongs(mind u im only 21)

by the way my exahuast has a lifetime LIFETIME WARRANTY apex offers none. next time just keep your stupid f*cking mouth shut

Wow, you are a tool, and I hope you won't be around much longer.

Also, when it comes to the automotive world, you usually get what you pay for. The sellers on ebay are not losing money by selling these things for so little, which brings me to question how much they cost to make, and its obvious the material they use is not very higher quality, even if it is "stainless steel".
Modified by pills at 2:45 PM 1/29/2006

[karmakaze]

listen to me u f*ucking *******. i made this review for this community. i found a well made product, made from full stainless(not mild steel which is what APEX uses) with mild proformance for a good quality price. why do you have to **** on this GEO? is it becuase your car is an automatic? anyways do some reserch, type in apexn1dual into the the serch here on the board, and see for your self how many ****ty mild steel apex mufflers have rusted out. i cant spend 475$ on a peice of **** exashust that is going to rust out on me, i leave that to you, and for your retatded information the exahust is made my a company called XSpower. ssautochrome is just the retailer u stupid ****i*g pu**y. and by the way let me know when your JDM SUPPA TITE DRIFTZ 500 DOLLA MAKE U HOLLA APEX-i exahuast turns to iron oxide from the cainster back. ok. ok.

P.S. your negitvity is not needed here GEO take that to the civic board where that kind of childish behavior belongs(mind u im only 21)

by the way my exahuast has a lifetime LIFETIME WARRANTY apex offers none. next time just keep your stupid f*cking mouth shut

someone needs to wipe the sand out of their vagina.

[nismodave]

this is the worst message board ive ever visited.

[Ender_Zero]

Did you find the S13 version on Ebay also? I have been searching on there but have only seen the S14 version. Hmmm...maybe I should email them, as I would love to by that exhaust! Looks nice, and ya can't beat the price!

they had the S13 one on there for a while, but i just did a search and it looks like they stopped selling it on ebay.... you can still go to ssautochrome and get it there, but you would have to pay alot for it...

[gizzerd]

they had the S13 one on there for a while, but i just did a search and it looks like they stopped selling it on ebay.... you can still go to ssautochrome and get it there, but you would have to pay alot for it...

Ah, Thanks!

[chrislis]

listen to me u f*ucking *******. i made this review for this community. i found a well made product, made from full stainless(not mild steel which is what APEX uses) with mild proformance for a good quality price. why do you have to **** on this GEO? is it becuase your car is an automatic? anyways do some reserch, type in apexn1dual into the the serch here on the board, and see for your self how many ****ty mild steel apex mufflers have rusted out. i cant spend 475$ on a peice of **** exashust that is going to rust out on me, i leave that to you, and for your retatded information the exahust is made my a company called XSpower. ssautochrome is just the retailer u stupid ****i*g pu**y. and by the way let me know when your JDM SUPPA TITE DRIFTZ 500 DOLLA MAKE U HOLLA APEX-i exahuast turns to iron oxide from the cainster back. ok. ok.

P.S. your negitvity is not needed here GEO take that to the civic board where that kind of childish behavior belongs(mind u im only 21)

by the way my exahuast has a lifetime LIFETIME WARRANTY apex offers none. next time just keep your stupid f*cking mouth shut

[daOne]

I have had the single tip ssautochrome exhaust for about 5 months now, it sounds great and looks good quality especially for the price.

[SilviaSlydSydway]

Anyone heard anything about the ssAutoChrome s13 sr20 intercooler. They have them on ebay without hot/coldpipes, but they have it on their website with everything.

[Thrwnsprkz]

hey, ive been lookin at the SSAC exaust for a while...but koukimon... any chance you looked at what was in that huge resonator under the car?

is is hollow like their "cats" are? or are their flanges in it?

thanks~Jon

[TrueSlide]

kouki, it would be a good idea to CALM YOURSELF DOWN. Your trash talk is childish and honestly takes some credibility away from you and your post.

[GhostDriver]

Those bastages only have the S14 model on eBay....chit.

[mrflip69]

Heh, I just happen to run into this thread on FA while looking for stuff about Hotshot.

Pic of rust on an N1 Single. Note, the N1 Dual has the same construction anyway. (Stainless Steel Canister with Mild Steel Piping)



And a quote from the guy who posted it on Fresh Alloy..

I'm guessing you were referring to me about the N1 rusting Bill. It happened to my friend about a year ago and he told me it was most likely due to the upward angle of the can collecting water when it rains. It acts as a water collector and over time it rusts the spot where the water would ideally be sitting in the can which makes sense. My canister was rusted in the same spot as his when I investigated. I spoke to an Apex-i rep at their booth at JGTC/D1 about the issue and he claimed mine was the first issue of the sort he had heard about. He also told me they only have a one year warranty so I guess we are all FUBAR.

As for welding the spot and calling it a day, my friend did that to his and it just came back over and over.

I guess you guys who didn't believe can STFU now

I'll include a link to the original post for good measure..

http://forums.freshalloy.com/u...05699
Modified by mrflip69 at 8:01 PM 2/4/2006

[koukimon]

thanks flip but this thread has been dead for awhile i dont care for upsetting the calm again

[TachyonS14]

Well, on an upside to this thread I will be installing mine tomorrow with pics and vids vs my stock exhaust. For now, here are some pics of the exhaust. I mean for $150 bucks shipped NOBODY can beat that!

[Arqi]

yeah that would be great, and please let us now about the power gains.