sr20's Post your track times!@@$@%

[I H8 UR DSM]

well you have to beat my 12.8 time slip w/ stock ecu, stock turbo, no afc, no tach, open diff, stock motor....hey, come to think of it, my first 3 times ever down the track i went 15.3, 13.3, then 13.1....so they were handicapped times lol

that 15 sec run was on BRAND NEW never used drag radials, still had that greasy **** they use to keep the tires new on them, had to burn that crap off....

[I H8 UR DSM]

OH, and if i had all 4 tires getting me traction i would be super racer....but thats too easy, thats why we dont like those damn DSM's here hahahahahahahh

[DSSA]

well you have to beat my 12.8 time slip w/ stock ecu, stock turbo, no afc, no tach, open diff, stock motor....hey, come to think of it, my first 3 times ever down the track i went 15.3, 13.3, then 13.1....so they were handicapped times lol

that 15 sec run was on BRAND NEW never used drag radials, still had that greasy **** they use to keep the tires new on them, had to burn that crap off....

I'll accept that challenge, and raise you a night of intoxication on whoever loses.

3 passes the 1st trip to the track in similar trim..winner takes all.:ylsuper

Bring yer Credit Card.... ;-)

[I H8 UR DSM]

sure....buyer chooses drinks...i'll have u under the table with $30bux : )

[DSSA]

sure....buyer chooses drinks...i'll have u under the table with $30bux : )

Pfft....

Only if I get to choose your drinks as well. I'll have you puking with $15.

But, I'd rather enjoy my victory instead of holding your head out of the toilet all night

Winner chooses own drinks. :pface

[I H8 UR DSM]

Im drinking Myoplex sucka...and water : )

ok, i'll buy you those 'bay breezes' you like so much...umbrella?

[DSSA]

Im drinking Myoplex sucka...and water : )

ok, i'll buy you those 'bay breezes' you like so much...umbrella?

Easy Hans....

Just because I'm in touch with my feminine side doesn't mean that you can try to get me drunk and re-inact your favorite scene from Deliverance.

(no, I don't really like "bay breezes", and I get violent on shots...I'll stick to beer)

[I H8 UR DSM]

i never saw that movie....but i only like skinny chix w/ big boobs.

[DSSA]

i never saw that movie....but i only like skinny chix w/ big boobs.

I thought that you and Eloy were just friends....

I'm confused now....

[I H8 UR DSM]

post whore!

[DSSA]

This is where I tell you a story.

It's about a pot, a kettle, and the color black.

[I H8 UR DSM]

:spam

Im the prototypical post whore!!!!

Whats your beer of choice? Does loser buy wings too?? : )

[ImportIntelligence]

I'm a lightweight All it takes is 4~5 shots of Mr. Morgan so I'd better show up for this competition.

As for the cams, I dig the staggered setup. My idle is as good as it was from the factory and the top end is killer. I have a ported head so I think the 264 /272 works best for my setup.

[DSSA]

I'm a lightweight All it takes is 4~5 shots of Mr. Morgan so I'd better show up for this competition.

As for the cams, I dig the staggered setup. My idle is as good as it was from the factory and the top end is killer. I have a ported head so I think the 264 /272 works best for my setup.

You're more than welcome to come watch Jesse get the both of us hammered on his dime.

However, I think you missed what I was saying.

Have you tried 264/264s and 272/272 setups already?

My point is that the 264/272s dyno a *slight* power increase at best over the 264/264 setup. The 272s dialed in right, especially if you're using a MAF-based setup as opposed to MAP have no problem idleing, and make quite a bit more power over both the 264/264s and 264/272s. Most DSM people have realized this now, and the 264s have been popping up all over the place for sale due to people going straight 272s. I started out with straight 272/272s after a set of wild WEB cams (junk) and never had a problem.

Of course, this is 4G63s we're talking about here, not SR20s, however, I think you'll find similar results.

MAF-based setups don't suffer nearly as much as MAP based setups at idle due to larger bumpsticks, as they're measuring actual air coming in instead of estimating from vaccuum/pressure which is what you have a problem creating with the larger lift/durations (vacuum).

[ImportIntelligence]

The Haltech system has a Zero Throttle feature that basically ignores the MAP signal ( well not completely ) and injects a pre-determined fuel for idle based on collant and air temp. I had 256's also. I wanted to go with the 264 for the intake so that the power band would not shift so greatly and would be broad. The car is still street driven so I need some torque down low. The car is making 200hp @ 3700rpms which is great for the street.

the 4g63 is very similar to the SR20 becuse it is still a turbo 2.0L . The main problem they have with the 4g63 are the head design an bottom end counter weights. Uggg... Have you seen any of the runners? You could barely fit a marble down one. I generally think that DSM people and Sr20 people generally get along pretty good due to the similar setups. The DSM AWD 60ft times are not that much lower if you are launching the 240 good out of the hole, and by the end of the 1/4 mi the sr20's wide and long runners should be pulling ahead.

Now then again I'm not talking a fully race prepped 4g63 either, I have seen some sick times come out of those cars.

[mikesr]

took my sr to the track last night and my best time was a 14.7 with a r/t of 1.087 my reaction time sucks, but I could not get traction the tires on my car are bald street tires, probably should have changed them before going out there but oh well. i burned all the way through first and second. finally grabbed in third. my first race was with an STI he took me off the line, stupid all-wheel-drive. but i caught him into third. you should have seen the look on his face. he ended up runing a 14.5 that same race. it was fun. if i had traction i would have taken him. well my worst run was a 15.111 with an r/t of 1.14. this was my first time with the sr at the track so... i guess this is ok. my friend took the car and could not break a 15.3 and he had a better r/t. well that was my night at the track. LaterMike

[DSSA]

the 4g63 is very similar to the SR20 becuse it is still a turbo 2.0L . The main problem they have with the 4g63 are the head design an bottom end counter weights. Uggg... Have you seen any of the runners? You could barely fit a marble down one.

I'm not sure what you're talking about here. The "counterweights" as you call them (are you talking about the balance shafts/silence shafts/countershafts?) are one of the 1st things a lot of people get rid of, and costs about $40 to do so.

The head design on the 1G DSMs (90-94) flow DAMN well. People have ran 10.5s and put over 480 whp down with the stock head. I wouldn't call that a "restrictive" design. My younger brother's POS beater ran 11.3@126 with the stock internals and no porting of the head...just HKS 272 cams, and the car still have some left in it. From what I've seen of the SR20 heads so far (will be able to confirm 100% next week when mine arrives) those ports are actually quite a bit smaller. I'm not sure which ones you looked at that you thought were small. Perhaps the 2nd Generation heads (which people have ran 11s on with 16Gs)?

Quote » I generally think that DSM people and Sr20 people generally get along pretty good due to the similar setups. The DSM AWD 60ft times are not that much lower if you are launching the 240 good out of the hole, and by the end of the 1/4 mi the sr20's wide and long runners should be pulling ahead. [/quote]

Actually, from what I've seen on these forums, the DSM 60' times are a ton better than the SR20s. Even if the SR20s have drag radials and the DSMs use crappy all-season radials.

Even in some of my older Galants (more weight, smaller tires/wheels) with both Nitto NT450 A/S and "Big O" (read Arizona's answer to Sears Roadhandler), I was still pulling low 1.7s (1.71/1.72/1.73s) 60'.

I'm anxious to get the SR20 into the car and play with a well-balanced RWD that you can squeeze a little bit of power out of. I expect the car to be a HELL of a lot more fun to drive than my DSMs, but you can't begin to compare the two in outright acceleration at the strip. Being on both sides of the fence, I still have to say that the 240s don't have a chance unless you mini-tub it, and throw some REALLY big meats on it. When's that last time you saw a stock-bodied 240 with street tires put down 1.4 60's?

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one...until you're ready to come down and go for a ride in a DSM with a "little" power. ;-)

[DSSA]

took my sr to the track last night and my best time was a 14.7 with a r/t of 1.087 my reaction time sucks, <snip>

well my worst run was a 15.111 with an r/t of 1.14. this was my first time with the sr at the track so... <snip>

i guess this is ok. my friend took the car and could not break a 15.3 and he had a better r/t. well that was my night at the track. LaterMike

I'm wondering why you're putting emphasis on the r/ts.

You realize that you could theoretically sit at the line for 10 minutes, (IOW, have a 10 minute r/t), and still run a 9 second 1/4 mile, right?

r/ts have no impact whatsoever on ETs.

[S13240]

Why are you guys comparing awd dsms to rwd 240s? Everybody here knows that on street trim the awd will launch waaaaaaaaaay much better than any rwd car. Awds are like freakin jack rabbits off the line.

[DSSA]

Why are you guys comparing awd dsms to rwd 240s? Everybody here knows that on street trim the awd will launch waaaaaaaaaay much better than any rwd car. Awds are like freakin jack rabbits off the line.

Umm..I think that was covered in my last post....:thinker

[ItzGenX]

Reaction time is not counted as part of the run. Reaction time is just how fast it takes you to begin moving over the staging line when that light hits green. AFTER you pass the staging line, the timer ticks away and begins counting your E/T. It is 60ft times and trap speed that you need to watch for. The only time reaction time matters, is when you are head to head with someone.

[S13240]

Umm..I think that was covered in my last post....:thinker

That was covered, but i was just wondering how you guys got into it out of nowhere. Everybody should know that all awd cars has the advantage at a dead stop launch no matter what. No need to discuss it on here.

[DSSA]

Everybody should know that all awd cars has the advantage at a dead stop launch no matter what.

Tell that to the guys with RWDs that are running big slicks, and are mini-tubbed/tubbed pulling 1.2 60's. They don't seem to know that they're not supposed to beat up on AWDs off the line.

[jdmfreak]

OK. From the info Ive gathered here, Im leaning towards the sr when I get the 240. All I wanna know is would turboing the ka would be better. Ive recieved mixed answers. Also which is more cost effective. I will prob get an sr though b/c its what I know more about.

[Altiman94]

I would rather have rwd. you can be much more aggresive off the line and not worry about damaging your drive train so much. I have a friend with a first gen DSM who can't get fully on the accelerator until after the 60' mark unless he wants to completely ruin his drivetrain.

[S13240]

Tell that to the guys with RWDs that are running big slicks, and are mini-tubbed/tubbed pulling 1.2 60's. They don't seem to know that they're not supposed to beat up on AWDs off the line.

Now who's talking about rwd vehicles that are running big slicks and tubed chassis pulling 1.2s? Been talking about street cars all along, if you can't get that through your head then stop trying to beat someone in everything they say. All the rwd street cars I've seen so far in person does 1.7s-1.5s with slicks or drag radials. You know what? I'll let you win in whatever you're trying to prove here. I know that all DSM owners are tuning Gods and they know it all.

[northstar ninja]

wow this is a funny *** post... by the way the Elle you speak of, does he drive a 93 240sx\se\hb\ which happens to be gunmetal grey with an exaust, lowered 1.5"(?) and urethane bushings all around?

[DSSA]

Now who's talking about rwd vehicles that are running big slicks and tubed chassis pulling 1.2s? Been talking about street cars all along, if you can't get that through your head then stop trying to beat someone in everything they say. All the rwd street cars I've seen so far in person does 1.7s-1.5s with slicks or drag radials. You know what? I'll let you win in whatever you're trying to prove here. I know that all DSM owners are tuning Gods and they know it all.

My point was the "no matter what" statement you made.

Might want to say what you mean and mean what you say next time that you're *****!ng about other people's posts.

[I H8 UR DSM]

Actually, from what I've seen on these forums, the DSM 60' times are a ton better than the SR20s. Even if the SR20s have drag radials and the DSMs use crappy all-season radials.

The most likely reason for that is 'most' people are running Open diffs, and getting traction with 1 tire vs. 4....most of the drag 240's w/ slicks and good drivers are pulling 1.6's at best anyway...

[Touring240]

took my nearly stock SR to the track last wknd.

RT .12360 ft 2.3681/4 ET 14.800MPH 105.42

91 240sx coupe factory LSDdunlop fm901 205/55/15red top sr20det3" dp3" tp3.5" exhaustact street/strip clutchk&n cone filterstock boost of 7psistock intercooler and recirc

I need to work on my launch as I was spinning thru second badly hence the horrible 60 ft time. waiting for my profec B to up the boost to 10psi hoping for low 14s