Speed Force Racing 3.5 CVT Turbo System COMPLETED

[dangeris]

Sometimes reading these posts gives me a chuckle. Anyone here that has the 3.5 knows that this motor is awesome and is very fast. I love it that no matter how many horses our motor comes with, it's still not fast enough. hell, it could be 500hp form the factory and still we'd be looking to drop twin turbos if possible.

[surmanm]

Sometimes reading these posts gives me a chuckle. Anyone here that has the 3.5 knows that this motor is awesome and is very fast. I love it that no matter how many horses our motor comes with, it's still not fast enough. hell, it could be 500hp form the factory and still we'd be looking to drop twin turbos if possible.

so whats up Darryl are you throwing in a turbo in your 3.5

[RobPaulson]

omfg i would cream if i had the funds for a turbo, my boy drives an 04 STI and has always had fastest car in our crew, hands down. that'd be a nice title to snake

[deasonz]

so if i wanted to turbo my 3.5 cvt what price range am i looking at for ALL parts and transmission cooler??

I want to know too..

[surmanm]

I want to know too..

just emailed them to get some solid numbers we will see what they say

[mcheddadi]

just emailed them to get some solid numbers we will see what they say

6000$ without install

[surmanm]

yep they just emailed me back 6k with everything dam that's a hit... but i want a turbo so bad oh man. i dont even want to think how much it will cost to install

[deasonz]

yep they just emailed me back 6k with everything dam that's a hit... but i want a turbo so bad oh man. i dont even want to think how much it will cost to install

But I want a turbo!! I wonder what install would cost.. Another 2K?

[08altima35]

do all of you expressing interest have a cvt? transmission cooler or not, the safe amount you can boost a cvt (transmission cooler or not) is not worth the price when measuring whp gain vs. cost.

[mikegtr06]

its not worh it on a 3.5 but..... on a 2.5 cvt, they have the same transmission and can do about the same. so........ 2.5 turbo "could" be more efficient than a 3.5 turbo. and be more "worth it" to do a turbo set up.

[mikegtr06]

ive posted this twice and i have gotten ignorred both times, does any one have anything to say about this ?

[rjdmmfl1]

I'm sorry, I know this post is old as sin, but I had to correct this.

First off, there is no BMW M4. There is, however, a BMW Z4 based M Roadster, but I believe you called this a "ZM".

Also, the 335i with the 6 speed and a chip should put down somewere around 365 wheel, with no exhaust or intake. I'm sure with some other bolt-ons, you could grace 400rwhp. I'm thinking that would win if raced against a 320whp FWD car.

I'm not bashing the project at all, just this dude.

As far as the project goes: simply amazing. I've always wondered how these CVT trannys would do with some mods. Super clean install and a great kit! Someone really put some thought and skill into this one. Great job guys!

Sorry to hear about the blown transmission!

Way to bring up an old thread.. good job Got carried away with the M's, no, there is no M4. Regarding Blake's car ... I was simply comparing his car to the current stock BMW line up... to begin talking about adding chips and exhausts and intakes and Sh*t is a bit asinine as to the point I was trying to make. But to corrcet you, the 335 is putting down , what, ~265-270 to the wheels stock (given only a 10% drivetrain loss, which os generous) Perhaps a tune and an exhasust can add an extra +100whp, perhaps it couldn't... again it bears no relevance to the point I was trying to make in my response to an earlier post... but thanks for the input, I'm guessing you have a BMW, hence the hurt feelings...

[spockrock]

Hey doc,

Did you get my email from a week back???

[deasonz]

do all of you expressing interest have a cvt? transmission cooler or not, the safe amount you can boost a cvt (transmission cooler or not) is not worth the price when measuring whp gain vs. cost.

Did you not read this post??

The transmission did not blow.The pressure solenoid blew.There is a big difference between a $100 solenoid and a $2000+ transmission.However,the car had a new pressure solenoid put it a few months agon and then we installed a big transmission cooler and the transmission has been rock solid ever since. I am in possesion of Blakes car right now since he had to go to Iraq for awhile. So I will try to post some updates every now and again. So we did figure out if you are going to turbo the CVT,you need to upgrade the transmission cooler.We have a package for that now too

Tim

With the transmission cooler it has been solid ever since..

[dangeris]

With the transmission cooler it has been solid ever since..

According to Blake it has. He's had the transmission cooler for over 2 months now and driven it both nice and hard with no effect. I think it is resolved. The only thing that is up in the air is the same damn question I've been asking SFR but has yet to reply to...and that is, will the transmission cooler be an added cost to the aleady high $5500 turbo kit, or will this be added to the kit at no additional cost?

IMO, if you're paying that amount, it better come with EVERYTHING

[skiski329]

its not worh it on a 3.5 but..... on a 2.5 cvt, they have the same transmission and can do about the same. so........ 2.5 turbo "could" be more efficient than a 3.5 turbo. and be more "worth it" to do a turbo set up.

it's not worth it for a 3.5 why would you turbo a 2.5 it would cost your more than just gettin a 3.5. and a 3.5 has the vq35de same as the 350z i like to think the altima coupe is a sports car just like the 350z.

[RobPaulson]

i like to think the altima coupe is a sports car just like the 350z.

[surmanm]

According to Blake it has. He's had the transmission cooler for over 2 months now and driven it both nice and hard with no effect. I think it is resolved. The only thing that is up in the air is the same damn question I've been asking SFR but has yet to reply to...and that is, will the transmission cooler be an added cost to the aleady high $5500 turbo kit, or will this be added to the kit at no additional cost?

IMO, if you're paying that amount, it better come with EVERYTHING

That's what i emailed Tim at SFR about this was his response :

-----Original message-----From: michael surman [email protected]: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:10:06 -0800To: [email protected]: altima coupe turbo kit

> Hi i saw you posted the other day on the forum about the turbo kit, my> question to you is what is the total price of the kit with everything> including the transmission cooler for the 3.5 cvt.

$5899 with transmission cooler.

how reliable is> your product because i know Blake had some problems.

Blake had an issues becasue we were unfamilair withthe CVT an we did not realize that it owuld casue the transmission fuild temp to rise.This ultimatelyt killed a pressoure control soleniod which regualtes pressure through the CVT.Once we found out what happened,we decided to use the cooer and it has been running strong for the last 3 or 4 months with no issues..

also what type of> warranty do you provide with the kit in terms of your product not> killing the car over a period of time.

We do not warranty the engine or transmission so you will do this at your own risk.We do offer a full one year warranty on tall the parts included with the turbo kit though.

Tim

>> Thanks in advance>> Michael Surman> forum name (Surmanm)

Timhttp://www.speedforceracing.com619-328-4012

[08altima35]

being i run past 350Z's

[mikegtr06]

it's not worth it for a 3.5 why would you turbo a 2.5 it would cost your more than just gettin a 3.5. and a 3.5 has the vq35de same as the 350z i like to think the altima coupe is a sports car just like the 350z.

ok, you missunderstood what i said, i was saying that since hte 2.5 and 3.5 have the same trans, you could get the same amount of power out of the 2.5 cvt turbo as the 3.5 cvt turbo and be able to run more boost.

someone posted that on the 3.5 cvt you couldnt get the hp/$ that you would on another turbo set up because the cvt cannont handle power. but to get the cvt to the same temp, it would require x amount of power... right

so on the 2.5 you could reach the same number hp wise as you could on the 3.5 turbo before teh cvt reaches its limit.

is that wrong ?

and then you would end up spending a couple thousand more than if you were to get a 3.5 but you have a big snail under hte hood and a little bit lighter package.

[skiski329]

ok, you missunderstood what i said, i was saying that since hte 2.5 and 3.5 have the same trans, you could get the same amount of power out of the 2.5 cvt turbo as the 3.5 cvt turbo and be able to run more boost.

someone posted that on the 3.5 cvt you couldnt get the hp/$ that you would on another turbo set up because the cvt cannont handle power. but to get the cvt to the same temp, it would require x amount of power... right

so on the 2.5 you could reach the same number hp wise as you could on the 3.5 turbo before teh cvt reaches its limit.

is that wrong ?

and then you would end up spending a couple thousand more than if you were to get a 3.5 but you have a big snail under hte hood and a little bit lighter package.

oh ok sorry about that you are right i did read that wrong

[beeristasty]

ok, you missunderstood what i said, i was saying that since hte 2.5 and 3.5 have the same trans, you could get the same amount of power out of the 2.5 cvt turbo as the 3.5 cvt turbo and be able to run more boost.

someone posted that on the 3.5 cvt you couldnt get the hp/$ that you would on another turbo set up because the cvt cannont handle power. but to get the cvt to the same temp, it would require x amount of power... right

so on the 2.5 you could reach the same number hp wise as you could on the 3.5 turbo before teh cvt reaches its limit.

True you could match the hp, but how long will the 2.5's stock internals last before failing?