Speed Force Racing 3.5 CVT Turbo System COMPLETED

[rjdmmfl1]

i think he's saying even a slow car should look good too. if that's the case i fully agree.

snail= turbo

his car is turbo'd and he thinks it has to look good with a turbo

that would make sense, be if you read the thread, folks were talking about the GUYS (Blake and Tim) not looking good, not the cars... that's what made digitalbow's comment wierd

[Infantry1327]

Well blake I must say that you have done Ventura County proud , I cant wait to see this beast cruising the streets. I will be the white coupe honking with drool running down my window, and trying to catch up.When you get your car back, we haft to arrange a big so cal meet.

[adidas2go]

I'm dropping the car off at split second, after the Hot Import Nights show tomorrow in Pomona. When I get back from Nevada around mid September. I'll be able to do a meet

[digitalbow]

haha yeah sorry I didn't make it clear...I was talking about purty cars, not guys. but yea, this thread has gone equally OT as the one on nissanclub for this kit.anyway, i'm interested to see how the tune is. mine is still rich with the splitsecond

[adidas2go]

well right now im running the stock computer and it flatlines at 10.2/1 @ 5 psi. REALLY rich. Throwing my O2 sensors for a loop lol

[windex]

well right now im running the stock computer and it flatlines at 10.2/1 @ 5 psi. REALLY rich. Throwing my O2 sensors for a loop lol

How well des the car actually put the power down? Can you "launch" it like you did before you boosted it or does it have trouble catching like 08Altimas?

[adidas2go]

Oh I can launch it, but the CVT take a half a second or so to catch up. I got 0-20 in like 2 seconds, then 20-60 in 3.2 secs.

[mcheddadi]

Oh I can launch it, but the CVT take a half a second or so to catch up. I got 0-20 in like 2 seconds, then 20-60 in 3.2 secs.

I shouldn't have that problem with my 6MT the challenge will be to keep it in the power band

[windex]

EMS?

[adidas2go]

Its being built right now at split second. Im also in Nevada will mid September. So I wont have any results till then.

[08coupedaddy]

hey dude im wanting to buy a turbo for my 3.5 CVT coupe and i was wondering how your CVT has handled the turbo kit for it? and where did you buy the kit from? is it even for sale yet or are you just like a test?

[windex]

Time to bring up an old topic... Got a question Blake... Did your CVT fail?

[rjdmmfl1]

Time to bring up an old topic... Got a question Blake... Did your CVT fail?

After the meet we had a few weeks ago, Blake has let the cat out of the bag... yes the CVT failed with the turbo.. there could have been a number of reasons... when Blake gets back from the ship, I'm sure he will update you!

[mcheddadi]

damn! I didn't know that! that sucks for the CVT guys

[Altima_Coupe]

After the meet we had a few weeks ago, Blake has let the cat out of the bag... yes the CVT failed with the turbo.. there could have been a number of reasons... when Blake gets back from the ship, I'm sure he will update you!

NOOOOO!!!!! I WANT A TURBO!! any1 with a 6mt want to trade for a cvt?

4real though blake, im sorry to hear that. that sux really bad. so what happens now?

[08altima35]

i've talked with blake about his ordeals, but haven't heard anything about why speedforceracing.com is offering this kit for sale on their website if it has no business being hooked up to a CVT. There are also hp claims that if i remember correctly the CVT prooved to be un-dynoable. Would they really sell a kit to a cvt owner knowing the harm it would do to the transmission?

when is blake returning from his vacation cruise anyway? perhaps LBC needs to post that Navyboy pic back up while he's away.

Just kidding.

[adidas2go]

4real though blake, im sorry to hear that. that sux really bad. so what happens now?

Tim and I are going to tackle the project again, with the new transmission we have installed now.

We are building a transmission cooler on it, transmission heat sensors, building multiple heat shields over the transmission and turbo, installing an air duct into the hood, and lowering the boost pressure to only 4 psi. I know it sounds silly to run a turbo at only 4 psi, but this is just frankly a personal overcoming for Tim and I at this point. We've both dumped loads of money and time into making this project successful, and damit, we're gonna do it!

When I get back off my aircraft carrier, I am taking the car by the shop for about a week or so. We will reinstall the kit, with the additions, and drive it until we have an outcome. We have good expectations for this round

i've talked with blake about his ordeals, but haven't heard anything about why speedforceracing.com is offering this kit for sale on their website if it has no business being hooked up to a CVT. There are also hp claims that if i remember correctly the CVT prooved to be un-dynoable. Would they really sell a kit to a cvt owner knowing the harm it would do to the transmission?

when is blake returning from his vacation cruise anyway? perhaps LBC needs to post that Navyboy pic back up while he's away.

Just kidding.

Speed Force is still offereing the kit because any shop can buy a turbo kit and throw their own spin on it. They could buy the kit, and from that, find a revolutionary way to have the CVT hold 10 psi through their own tweaking. Turbo systems and Supercharger systems blow trannys and motors all the time, but the company that builds them doesn't just yank the kit off the market. Its up to you to research and find out if the kit is reliable or not. However, if you called Tim over at Speed Force and asked him about this kit, he would be the first to tell you our prototype blew the transmission, and this would be your own risk.

A few CVT kits have already been ordered from Tim under the chance that they might fit the 6 speed because a certain other turbo company can't reproduce and market their own prototype

As for the dyno numbers, these numbers were an estimate based on the power usually created for the 6 psi system on other altimas, and a gforce computer.

Oh, and a detachment on my aircraft carrier flying 6 missions a day is hardly a "vacation cruise" lol

[windex]

Thanks for the update. Sorry to hear about the transmission, I'm looking forward to the revised setup.

[08altima35]

A few CVT kits have already been ordered from Tim under the chance that they might fit the 6 speed because a certain other turbo company can't reproduce and market their own prototype

A "certain other company" has a safe working TurboKit that is ready to go, but is still working out how the vehicle should be tuned because most mechanics won't splice a piggyback into your existing ECU. There have been talks of having your ECU shipped to a certain company to be flashed while you or your mechanic is installing the turbokit and having the option of purchasing that option with your TurboKit. I don't know all the details, but I do know they won't sell it until all these things are worked out and have been proven to be safe on the car. Don't take this a me starting a beef Blake cause i'm feeling that's how you took my last post.

[mcheddadi]

most mechanics won't splice a piggyback into your existing ECU.

what?! why ?? isn't it safer to piggyback and more convenient than ecu reflash? having to ship your ecu away is lame, no????

emanage blue?!!!

[joe21]

Blake, I am so sorry to read about the transmission, I was wondering why I haven't seen you around on base, but I guess that's also because you are on the carrier.

Did you get a stock transmission or is there a stronger one that will fit on the A/C?

[cheezball1257]

A little peeved I am...I want the Turbo-kit to come out for the 2.5S!!! I drive a M/T and def would love to hear the blow off each time I shift. And have a little fun and race some SR-T 4's and see what a turbo on the 2.5S can bring. And BTW did you do any new forced internals when you slapped on the turbo?

[Mikecom32]

Right now, with 320 at the wheels, looking at BMW's entire line up...., only their M3, M4, M5, and M6 will take his car... he owns the rest of the entire BMW line up including the ZM...... yes there are other turbo charged cars out there that are faster, but right now, the list of cars he has jumped past is pretty extensive, and it hasn;t even finished being tuned yet...

I'm sorry, I know this post is old as sin, but I had to correct this.

First off, there is no BMW M4. There is, however, a BMW Z4 based M Roadster, but I believe you called this a "ZM".

Also, the 335i with the 6 speed and a chip should put down somewere around 365 wheel, with no exhaust or intake. I'm sure with some other bolt-ons, you could grace 400rwhp. I'm thinking that would win if raced against a 320whp FWD car.

I'm not bashing the project at all, just this dude.

As far as the project goes: simply amazing. I've always wondered how these CVT trannys would do with some mods. Super clean install and a great kit! Someone really put some thought and skill into this one. Great job guys!

Sorry to hear about the blown transmission!

[speedforce180]

The transmission did not blow.The pressure solenoid blew.There is a big difference between a $100 solenoid and a $2000+ transmission.However,the car had a new pressure solenoid put it a few months agon and then we installed a big transmission cooler and the transmission has been rock solid ever since. I am in possesion of Blakes car right now since he had to go to Iraq for awhile. So I will try to post some updates every now and again. So we did figure out if you are going to turbo the CVT,you need to upgrade the transmission cooler.We have a package for that now too

Tim

[surmanm]

so if i wanted to turbo my 3.5 cvt what price range am i looking at for ALL parts and transmission cooler??

[RobPaulson]

so if i wanted to turbo my 3.5 cvt what price range am i looking at for ALL parts and transmission cooler??

might want to consider waiting for the CVT-MT conversion, then turbo after you've converted. might save you some money in the long run (i know the conversions arent cheap, but its proly cheaper than replacing your CVT more than once) considering how little we know about long running turbo-CVT in our cars

just throwing ideas out there, always good to consider all the options when dropping a few grand

oh and michael i meant to call you this weekend things are kinda hectic at the moment, i'll get at you eventually though

[marlin29311]

might want to consider waiting for the CVT-MT conversion, then turbo after you've converted. might save you some money in the long run (i know the conversions arent cheap, but its proly cheaper than replacing your CVT more than once) considering how little we know about long running turbo-CVT in our cars

just throwing ideas out there, always good to consider all the options when dropping a few grand

You might as well get a new car at that point...you'll be dropping probably like $20k to get all of that done...

[RobPaulson]

You might as well get a new car at that point...you'll be dropping probably like $20k to get all of that done...

I thought people were throwing numbers out like 5k for the conversion . . . thats what I was basing my statement off of.

I made sure to not have to deal with decisions like this by just waiting for my 3.5 6MT from the factory

[surmanm]

so in reality this is not really worth it at this point i guess. your right theirs so little we know about the cvt... oh well...

oh and michael i meant to call you this weekend things are kinda hectic at the moment, i'll get at you eventually though

yeah not a problem Gerry give me a call whenever

[marlin29311]

I thought people were throwing numbers out like 5k for the conversion . . . thats what I was basing my statement off of.

I made sure to not have to deal with decisions like this by just waiting for my 3.5 6MT from the factory

Yea, I remember that discussion - I think Blake pointed out that a conversion like that would probably cost over $8k, with labor, electronics, parts, etc...that's what I was going for.

In the end, doing both though really isn't worth it...