Southwest Bumps Skinny to Accommodate Fatty

[ADDirishboy]

Perhaps you misread my usage of the term "able". Sure, it is physically possible for anyone to lose weight and get healthy, and it is physically possible for anyone addicted to cigarettes or booze to break the addiction. It's also physically possible for a major league baseball player to bat 400 or hit 100 home runs.

My usage of the term "able" is in reference to the fact that many people are not successful in accomplishing that goal. They just aren't able to do it. In the same way, many smokers or drinkers are not able to kick the addiction.. Not because it's not physically possible, but because they haven't been able to muster the will power to accomplish the goal.

A baseball player is a bad example, but I get where you're going.

You said it yourself though, it's a matter of willpower. That lack of commitment is a weakness in all people who have an addiction. That does not mean they are unable to quit smoking or drinking or eating though. It merely means that they don't have the self-control or commitment to quit their addiction.

I agree that every person faces adversity. Some people are predisposed to being overweight, some to addictions like smoking, p0rn, drugs, alcoholism, etc.. What I don't agree with is the fact that being overweight is worthy of ridicule more than being a smoker is worthy of ridicule. Sure, it is the most visible of these adversities... But I don't feel it's any worse than the others.

Again, my point in entering this conversation is simply to state that people shouldn't be so judgmental of others. It's wrong to assume that fat people are just like you and that the only reason they are fat is because they chose to be that way. It's wrong to devalue and degrade another person based on their appearance or their habits.

I completely agree that being fat isn't any worse than being a smoker or an alcoholic. I feel it's necessary to not pamper these people into thinking that it's ok to be fat, or a smoker, or an alcoholic. While it is your choice do make your own decisions, that doesn't mean it's right.

I can choose to start doing meth today. It's my body, what do you care? But that does not make it right and we try and divert people from meth with scary billboards and commercials. I think it's necessary to do the same for fat people, and everyone else too. Scare them away from it. When that doesn't work, make it known that the path they have chosen is bad, instead of pampering them. I HATE it when people tell others it's okay to be obese. WRONG. It is not okay. We need to help them to make a change in their life.

[ADDirishboy]

As nuts as an out of shape, unemployment collecting guy with habits?

IB4Bmorecoupe

[93coupe]

We need to help them to make a change in their life.

This is why I do my part and ridicule them.

[ADDirishboy]

This is why I do my part and ridicule them.

I do the same Ryan. You will hear no sympathy from me.

When I was in high school I walked past a fat chick telling her friend that she kept trying to lose weight but couldn't. I turned around, looked her right in the eye, and told her to eat a salad and go for a jog. She goes, "I tried! I've been doing it all week!" I was like, wow! A WHOLE week? Keep on it fatty.

[PEZi]

I HATE it when people tell others it's okay to be obese. WRONG. It is not okay. We need to help them to make a change in their life.

this is especially true with children... parents telling their kids its ok to be fat and that they are beautiful no matter what is a huge issue... which brings us back on topic here with the 14 freaking year old that bumped a perfectly healthy paying customer from a flight... if parents would just raise their children properly... make them eat healthier home cooked meals or at least something better than McDonald's and cupcakes breakfast lunch and dinner... the problem would be almost neutralized

raise healthy kids... get a healthier community overall

let kids eat fast food... and other BS... and you get a lazy community that just wants more fooking cupcakes and frenchie fries

[RobPaulson]

I do the same Ryan. You will hear no sympathy from me.

When I was in high school I walked past a fat chick telling her friend that she kept trying to lose weight but couldn't. I turned around, looked her right in the eye, and told her to eat a salad and go for a jog. She goes, "I tried! I've been doing it all week!" I was like, wow! A WHOLE week? Keep on it fatty.

ROFL those people suck @ life... fo realz. learn2lifestyle. a 'diet' should not have a foreseeable ending. neither should a workout regiment. it should be part of your life.

[93coupe]

Put your finger down your throat, you f*** whale!

[ADDirishboy]

ROFL those people suck @ life... fo realz. learn2lifestyle. a 'diet' should not have a foreseeable ending. neither should a workout regiment. it should be part of your life.

Exactly. Diets don't work. Once you stop your "diet" you'll go right back to normal. You need to make a change in the way you eat for your entire life, not just a few weeks.

[infinitgkid]

Well... I guess any attempt I've made of trying to get y'all to not use harsh words like "Fatty" have gone out the window...

I will now spectate to see where this debate goes.

[ADDirishboy]

Well... I guess any attempt I've made of trying to get y'all to not use harsh words like "Fatty" have gone out the window...

I will now spectate to see where this debate goes.

I view calling a fat person a "fatty" in the same light as calling a smoker a "smoker", or an alcoholic an "alcoholic", or a prostitute who does crack a "crack whore".

Those are all the words you SHOULD use.

[Eikon]

Check this out...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07 ... =latestnew


Granted Fox news isn't the most reliable source.. but it's interesting.

[AZhitman]

wrong to devalue and degrade another person based on their appearance or their habits.

We do it to Ryan all the time.

He comes to Phoenix, I'm buying wheel locks, putting the deep fryer in the attic, sending my daughter to her aunt's house for a week and posting directions to the nearest Popeye's on the fridge.

Side note: There's a real difference between disapproving of someone's choices and actually expressing "hate" for people. One is perfectly fine, the other is not.

I'd love to see Seth and Biggie and all my other "big dawg" friends find some success in their weight goals, if only to help them feel better and live longer - I love these guys. I'll NEVER stop clowning Torry for his manbewbs, I'm not gonna concede half my seat on an airplane to some chunkybutt sitting beside me, and the term "fatty" isn't going anywhere - I'll use it when I please. I'm sure they'd all like to see me get more rest, eat a double-cheeseburger with bacon more often, or quit being stressed out - that's what we do for each other.

Although, you jackasses are making it DAMN hard to find pants that fit me - How the HELL is it that you can't buy Dockers in a 32W-34L? Yet there's a WHOLE RACK of 48W-32L. That's messed up.

[AZhitman]

I view calling a fat person a "fatty" in the same light as calling a smoker a "smoker", or an alcoholic an "alcoholic", or a prostitute who does crack a "crack whore".

Those are all the words you SHOULD use.

<changes Tyler's screen name to "crack whore">

[ADDirishboy]

<changes Tyler's screen name to "crack whore">

Also, Try finding cheap jeans in a 31-32. No Levi's are made that way. I gotta buy the expensive s***.

[AZhitman]

Check this out...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07 ... =latestnew


Granted Fox news isn't the most reliable source.. but it's interesting.

I didn't get past: demanding obesity ratings for all citizens by 2014

WTF. More intrusions into our personal freedoms, more attempts to control and manage our personal life, and more invasions of our privacy. You knuckleheads that voted for this a$$ need to get to the polls in 2012 and fix what you screwed up. </poli-rant>

[AZhitman]

<changes Tyler's screen name to "crack whore">

Also, Try finding cheap jeans in a 31-32. No Levi's are made that way. I gotta buy the expensive s***.

No, you buy expensive jeans because you like them with sparklies, you stumpy queer.

(jfwy homey... I like your bedazzled britches. )

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Check this out...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07 ... =latestnew


Granted Fox news isn't the most reliable source.. but it's interesting.

I didn't get past: demanding obesity ratings for all citizens by 2014

WTF. More intrusions into our personal freedoms, more attempts to control and manage our personal life, and more invasions of our privacy. You knuckleheads that voted for this a$$ need to get to the polls in 2012 and fix what you screwed up. </poli-rant>

Lulz from the related links:

"To have a piece of paper like this come home in their backpack with them is very, very concerning to me," said mother Lori-Ann Sumner, whose nine-year-old daughter Shelby -- an active gymnast and athlete -- was characterized as “borderline overweight.”

I don't think jumping on a trampoline in the backyard makes your little (snicker) Shelby a gymnast, Mom.

[infinitgkid]

I view calling a fat person a "fatty" in the same light as calling a smoker a "smoker", or an alcoholic an "alcoholic", or a prostitute who does crack a "crack whore".

Those are all the words you SHOULD use.

Do you also label people that are missing ligaments "gimps"?
Do you also label people that have Down Syndrome "Dumb f*cks"?

Yes, being overweight is bad
Yes, they are conditions of the Human Body
Yes, obesity is something that is for the most part self-induced.

Obesity, along with Cancer, AIDS, loss of ligaments, and even the Flu are all conditions of the Human Body; self-induced or not.

All I'm saying is: Yeah they put themselves in that position, and you don't have to feel sorry for them, but the fact of the matter is; they are in that condition regardless and they are human beings. Just because some of y'all are fine with being called names such as "Fatty", others aren't.

Obese people are people just like everyone else. It doesn't hurt to press your backspace button a few times to delete the word "Fatty" and type "obese" or "overweight".

[Side note: If I crossed any lines with that down syndrome statement. I'm sorry.]

[Urabus GodofTraction]

You get all those big words off the back of a Twinkies box, fatty?

[RobPaulson]

LOL @ political correctness. not in here homie.

[Mr1der]

if the kid is active and still overweight, there might be something going on medically, but chances are she stuffs her face on unhealthy stuff.

hell, I was a lean kid when I was 5-6. Then we moved out to the country and I stopped biking and going out and really playing much. Who's fault is that? My own.

I tried playing two hand touch football last month and nearly died after running about 4 plays.

as of right now, I could stand to drop 60 pounds of gut, moob and thigh.

6'4" and around 290lb. Can't do much working out due to shoulder surgery recovery..trying to run still hurts like a f***.

That doesn't stop me from eating right though...as I eat half an italian sub with mayo on it...and oil...damn it's delicious.

[RobPaulson]

I tried playing two hand touch football last month and nearly died after running about 4 plays.

LOL, fatty.

[ADDirishboy]

Do you also label people that are missing ligaments "gimps"?
Do you also label people that have Down Syndrome "Dumb f*cks"?

Yes, being overweight is bad
Yes, they are conditions of the Human Body
Yes, obesity is something that is for the most part self-induced.

Obesity, along with Cancer, AIDS, loss of ligaments, and even the Flu are all conditions of the Human Body; self-induced or not.

All I'm saying is: Yeah they put themselves in that position, and you don't have to feel sorry for them, but the fact of the matter is; they are in that condition regardless and they are human beings. Just because some of y'all are fine with being called names such as "Fatty", others aren't.

Obese people are people just like everyone else. It doesn't hurt to press your backspace button a few times to delete the word "Fatty" and type "obese" or "overweight".

[Side note: If I crossed any lines with that down syndrome statement. I'm sorry.]

Actually, I tore my MCL about 6 years ago. That's a ligament, the biggest one actually, in your leg. I tore it skiing, and yes, some of my friends call my gimpy. Who cares? I have a bum knee.

The Down Syndrome statement, this has no bearing on anything. You are born with that disease and cannot change it, no matter how hard you try. That goes for the ligament argument. I can't magically make my MCL all better. It's not a matter of having willpower or commitment, like being a fatty is.

Also, obesity does NOT fall under the same category as Cancer or AIDS. You can stop being fat. You can't just stop having AIDS.

[Mr1der]

I tried playing two hand touch football last month and nearly died after running about 4 plays.

LOL, fatty.

truth.

hell, a few years ago I could go out and play for an hour or better. I just don't get off my a** anymore and I'm gonna change that.

Even in this oppressive heat down here, I wanna go play frisbee golf and get into geocaching. There's nothing for me inside anymore, if I get my shoulder healed up nicely and have the extra money, it's juijitsu and mauy thai time.

[wingFeather]

There should be a size & weight limit on airplane riders. It has nothing to do with prejudice. More fuel is used, and planes are designed with certain space considerations.

[infinitgkid]

Actually, I tore my MCL about 6 years ago. That's a ligament, the biggest one actually, in your leg. I tore it skiing, and yes, some of my friends call my gimpy. Who cares? I have a bum knee.

The Down Syndrome statement, this has no bearing on anything. You are born with that disease and cannot change it, no matter how hard you try. That goes for the ligament argument. I can't magically make my MCL all better. It's not a matter of having willpower or commitment, like being a fatty is.

Also, obesity does NOT fall under the same category as Cancer or AIDS. You can stop being fat. You can't just stop having AIDS.

You're correct.

But I think you are missing my point. Obesity, Cancer, AIDS, Down Syndrome, etc. are all conditions and they are all different with different effects. But the point I'm trying to make here is that they ARE conditions that anyone can have, and that makes these people no way, in any shape or form, inferior to the point where they are labeled with names such as "Fatty".

If you or anyone else doesn't mind getting called such derogatory names, then that's your perogative.

And don't think for a minute that I'm defending overweight people because I'm not. I just don't think that we should resort to name calling, ya know?

[ADDirishboy]

You're correct.

But I think you are missing my point. Obesity, Cancer, AIDS, Down Syndrome, etc. are all conditions and they are all different with different effects. But the point I'm trying to make here is that they ARE conditions that anyone can have, and that makes these people no way, in any shape or form, inferior to the point where they are labeled with names such as "Fatty".

If you or anyone else doesn't mind getting called such derogatory names, then that's your perogative.

And don't think for a minute that I'm defending overweight people because I'm not. I just don't think that we should resort to name calling, ya know?

I don't think it's name calling, and I already described my stance above.

And yes, obesity is a medical condition, but not like cancer or AIDS. You fail to realize that people can do things, like diet and exercise, to make themselves skinnier and healthier. People with AIDS have nothing they can do to stop having AIDS. Quit putting them in the same category.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Whoa whoa. I missed that. He's comparing being fat with having AIDS?

Well, that kind of mentality keeps the fat fat. They call it being fat and having AIDS for a reason. You wouldn't say being AIDS, or having fat, because one is a legitimate condition and the other is a penchant for quarter-pounders.

PS, fat people ARE inferior. Weak-willed clods.

[RobPaulson]

PS, fat people ARE inferior. Weak-willed clods.

[HashiriyaS14]

I'VE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERF**KING FATTIES ON THIS MOTHERF**KING PLANE!