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screw a PFC Plain and simple i would piss on that ****. Its not a bad peice of equipment but you will never see or hear me using a PFC not worth my time.

Why do most people buying a power FC never lean to the sides of the AEM EMS its pathetic seriously look at all AEM has to offer just spend the EXTRA CASH and Do it right like im doing.

Advanced Engine Management best in the business buddy!!!

If I ever meet scott from enthalpy or anyone that works at enthalpy. I will never shake theirs hands never!!!


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GTR PrYdE wrote:I hear about more tuners using AEM than PFC... but I believe because the PFC is Maf limited...
The D-Jetro Power FC is not MAF limited, but yes the other versions are.

With an AEM ems can you set things like rev limiter, speed cut, turbo timer and whatnot? Just wondering

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So yeah I just got back from dropping the car off at engine logics, Brad will start tuning the car Monday morning. Cant wait Guys. Im getting vids for sure on monday lots of them LOL




Touge’ wrote:The D-Jetro Power FC is not MAF limited, but yes the other versions are.

With an AEM ems can you set things like rev limiter, speed cut, turbo timer and whatnot? Just wondering


with the AEM EMS you can do anything. let me put it this way i can wire my mosin nagant 9130 to my AEM EMS and every time i hit the rev limiter at 9000rpm it will shoot a round straight through the car in front of me 1 mile away.


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hell yeah man! bout time you updated this project! lol cant wait for the vidswhen do you plan on driftin her??

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DriftBoy07 wrote:hell yeah man! bout time you updated this project! lol cant wait for the vidswhen do you plan on driftin her??
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DriftBoy07 wrote:hell yeah man! bout time you updated this project! lol cant wait for the vidswhen do you plan on driftin her??


Thanks man Ill be drifting next sunday on 01-18-09 at Import face off at Houston raceway park with my Team that im with Nevrslo we are doing a Drift demo!! So i hope the tune goes good cause im looking forward to next sunday!!!

P.S. the car will be painted next week for the IFO event too .

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Badass Jordan, glad you finally dropped the car off. What happen with secret services?? Either way Engine Logics is supposed to be real good too.I wonder what you'll make on that heartbreaker dyno

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thas really exciting dude congrats! lol i wish i could be doing anything with drifting right now..lucky! im debating between an S15 turbo with supporting mods to get a lil over 300hp..or go all out on suspension & stick with 250hp with bolt ons/boost controller

make sure you post vids asap!

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I will get plenty of vids guys don't worry

Thanks Guys ill keep yall updated!!!
GTR PrYdE wrote:Badass Jordan, glad you finally dropped the car off. What happen with secret services?? Either way Engine Logics is supposed to be real good too.I wonder what you'll make on that heartbreaker dyno
Only reaseon i took to engine logics is cause brad the tuner I personally know him and hes the best with SR20's and 240's when it comes to tuneing so it just made me more comfortable to go to enginlogics!! I cant wait to see what it will make, I hope the block stays strong like it is... keep your fingers crossed
DriftBoy07 wrote:thas really exciting dude congrats! lol i wish i could be doing anything with drifting right now..lucky! im debating between an S15 turbo with supporting mods to get a lil over 300hp..or go all out on suspension & stick with 250hp with bolt ons/boost controller

make sure you post vids asap!
Thanks man, I say just get your suspension stuff done and the n have fun with what you have for a while and if you would like to have more go bigger with whatever you like.

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Did you consider the Electromotive TecGT? It ran me about $2200 for all sensors(MAP, IAT, CLT and MAG Sensor) and unterminated harness.

All the benefits and technology if not more of the AEM, but has more tunability features as well as a higher resolution timing map by using an inductive 60 "-2" trigger wheel.

It uses the same ignition/timing system(trigger wheel and mag sensor) as the Formula 1 Pectyl ECU.

Very powerful and badass Stand-alone. It has the processing power to support processing all the injectors and coil packs at 20,000 RPM. At 10,000 RPM a revolution happens in 6 ms or .006 seconds. Its just crazy what the standalones can do in such short periods of time at certain accuracies.

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CoupedUp wrote:Did you consider the Electromotive TecGT? It ran me about $2200 for all sensors(MAP, IAT, CLT and MAG Sensor) and unterminated harness.

All the benefits and technology if not more of the AEM, but has more tunability features as well as a higher resolution timing map by using an inductive 60 "-2" trigger wheel.

It uses the same ignition/timing system(trigger wheel and mag sensor) as the Formula 1 Pectyl ECU.

Very powerful and badass Stand-alone. It has the processing power to support processing all the injectors and coil packs at 20,000 RPM. At 10,000 RPM a revolution happens in 6 ms or .006 seconds. Its just crazy what the standalones can do in such short periods of time at certain accuracies.
No i didn't!

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Eh?

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CoupedUp wrote:Did you consider the Electromotive TecGT?
^ No, he didn't...

I was waiting for someone to point our the differences between AEM's system and other hardcore systems that have been on the market much longer than AEM's...thx!

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datsun2401972 wrote:
^ No, he didn't...

I was waiting for someone to point our the differences between AEM's system and other hardcore systems that have been on the market much longer than AEM's...thx!
I know, but I didn't know what kind of response that was...like..."No I didnt!, how dare you say something is as good or comparable to AEM."

I'm from Broken Arrow, OK. BTW.

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Here are some videos from the other day it should be getting tuned this week sometime before Sunday:D!

Here are some of the vids!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHQQvAWQt0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbNqiY-aZmI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI4ag5sYYic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRPz8ypUm7s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhf14VdUlkE
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I know, but I didn't know what kind of response that was...like..."No I didnt!, how dare you say something is as good or comparable to AEM."

I'm from Broken Arrow, OK. BTW.
Ummmm!!!! Yeah last time I check this was my thread so if you dont like what im doing then screw OFF!!!

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Slideways^Jordan wrote:
Ummmm!!!! Yeah last time I check this was my thread so if you dont like what im doing then screw OFF!!!
What the hell? This isn't h240 he just asked a question??


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Slideways^Jordan wrote:Ummmm!!!! Yeah last time I check this was my thread so if you dont like what im doing then screw OFF!!!
Oh da baby...

No, I understand this is your build thread. I never said I didn't like what you were doing.

Just curious was all. Anyhow...congrats on approaching the day to drive it again.

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CoupedUp wrote:
Oh da baby...

No, I understand this is your build thread. I never said I didn't like what you were doing.

Just curious was all. Anyhow...congrats on approaching the day to drive it again.
Sorry i didnt really understand how you were asking the question but im sorry i dont want to be rude so i apoligize...
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What the hell? This isn't h240 he just asked a question??
lol I be E thugin lik no other HAHAHAHA lol JK!!!

**** this is the most consistant action my build thread has seen in months. LOL!!!
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Jordan got his car back!

301whp @ 12psi @7500 on a DynoDynamics, which is equiv to 358whp DynoJet!

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358??? what was he shooting for? he has a serious setup and only 358...?

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Its mostly the head that he built though, so you can't expect massive amounts of power, although I thought he'd be closer to 400whp because of the turbo and injectors he went with. Either way, it's still a very nice build and I'm sure it runs extremely solid with the setup he has.

To Jordan,How are you liking that Top Speed manifold? I came across it one day on Courtesy Nissan after searching for months for an affordable short runner manifold and I'm thinking about getting one. Congrats on getting your car running good!

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Stripes wrote:Its mostly the head that he built though, so you can't expect massive amounts of power, although I thought he'd be closer to 400whp because of the turbo and injectors he went with.
the head is where i would expect to make all the power, its not like eagle rods and cp pistons would give him more hp, it would just allow for more power to be made and reliably. with the turbo,manifold,injectors,272 cams and other supporting mods i would expect massive ammounts of power (450+)

codyace made 400hp on a gt2871r build, spent alot less money and i would expect that he makes that hp alot faster (if cody built the bottom end for another 2k$ he would have an extremely reliable 400hp build for a very reasonable price.)

none the less 358 is not wht i would have expected from a 6k$+ build.

hey jordan, is that the final tune or do you plan to boost more? i want to know what you think and it would be cool to see a comlpter parts list or what you have spent this far on just the build.

in the end its all about how the owner likes his ride, so what do you think?
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gixxerbob wrote:the head is where i would expect to make all the power, its not like eagle rods and cp pistons would give him more hp, it would just allow for more power to be made and reliably......(if cody built the bottom end for another 2k$ he would have an extremely reliable 400hp build for a very reasonable price.)
I guess I didn't word it very well, but this is exactly why I said I wouldn't expect massive power. Sure he could max out his setup with 400+, but it wouldn't be too smart because then how reliable would the motor really be?

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Those numbers are really good 358 rwhp AT 12PS!!!!!!!!!! Lets see what he makes when he cranks it to 22 PSI on pump 28 PSI on race.

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yea, i know when he opened this thread he was shooting for 400-450. thats y im so curious as to how much he will crank the boost. i imagine his wastegate has a 12lb spring.

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vids jordan nice!im sure with 18psi youll make plenty more than 400hp! sounds beautiful-makes me wanna by a buddy club exhaust keep it coming dude, i wanna see vids/pics of you driftin her too

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpiInw5j ... RPz8ypUm7s

OK now the thing is why it only made 301HP is that brad my tuner found the dootchwerks 810cc injectors were at 90% injector duty cycle its really weird and idk what could cause this really. But I have some Top Feed precision 1000cc Injectors I need to put in. I just need a top feed fuel rail

I had the Tomei solid lifters in and brad recommend to put the HLA back in for now and now theirs no more noisy noise from underneath the valve cover. I cant rev very high with the HLA in the head cuase it will deflate them from what ive been told.


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Stripes wrote:Its mostly the head that he built though, so you can't expect massive amounts of power, although I thought he'd be closer to 400whp because of the turbo and injectors he went with. Either way, it's still a very nice build and I'm sure it runs extremely solid with the setup he has.

To Jordan,How are you liking that Top Speed manifold? I came across it one day on Courtesy Nissan after searching for months for an affordable short runner manifold and I'm thinking about getting one. Congrats on getting your car running good!
Thanks man i appreciate it alot , I absolutly LOVE my Top speed intake manifold the casting in some areas of the manifold are few tiny hairs off.


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Cool...you shouldnt be hitting 90% duty cycle at at 301 WHP...you shouldnt even hit that on some 550s...

I wouldnt jump up to 1000s...Id make sure they're really 810s... The bigger the injector the harder it is to control at low millisecond pulses.

Awesome, congrats on getting your car back!!! I bet it must feel great!

Yea, HLAs can collapse at higher RPMs because they don't have time to refill.

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CoupedUp wrote:Cool...you shouldnt be hitting 90% duty cycle at at 301 WHP...you shouldnt even hit that on some 550s...

I wouldnt jump up to 1000s...Id make sure they're really 810s... The bigger the injector the harder it is to control at low millisecond pulses.

Awesome, congrats on getting your car back!!! I bet it must feel great!

Yea, HLAs can collapse at higher RPMs because they don't have time to refill.


Thanks man


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CoupedUp wrote:Cool...you shouldnt be hitting 90% duty cycle at at 301 WHP...you shouldnt even hit that on some 550s...
On this dyno I bet 550's would hit close to 90%, but still there's an issue somewhere.As for the power it made, 358 dj is very nice at 12psi!

If tuning didn't cost so much i'd say throw in the 1000's and go hit 20psi!

It'd really be a waste of money this soon though... 500+ down the drain


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