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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:I'd love to have a Yaris. Great commuter car, AWESOME on gas.

Let them get that for you, then pick up an s13 for $500-$1000 as a project.

Or give me the Yaris and I'll gladly give you my sil40.
The car in your sig is a silforty correct?You would trade it for a Yaris?!

PS: if there any mods around, can you move this to general, as it's not really about 240s anymore. Thanks


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thatskarma wrote:
It probably is just an excuse. I talked to my dad some more and we went driving a bit, and he said he wanted me to have a "reliable" car and that I could get a "fast car" with my own money.
Any car is reliable just as long you do regualer maintenance to it, and don't wreck it obviously. Also if he thinks that's a fast car....it's not. 240's are far from fast.

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Any car is reliable just as long you do regualer maintenance to it, and don't wreck it obviously. Also if he thinks that's a fast car....it's not. 240's are far from fast.
He thinks I want to do "Fast and the Furious" sh*t. His exact words when I showed him the car "you want to do some fast and the furious s***? nah you can do that on your own time and money".

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thatskarma wrote:The car in your sig is a silforty correct?You would trade it for a Yaris?!
Yep, that's my sil40 in my sig. Runs great, no problems.

And yes, I would.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:
Yep, that's my sil40 in my sig. Runs great, no problems.

And yes, I would.
Why dude? That car is so clean.Is it just the gas mileage, or is it the extra space that would make you trade?


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simmode1 wrote:Start looking for older Lexus SC300's &/or GS300's. You should be able to find stock versions within your $4000 budget or even lower. You can think of them as luxurious MKIV Supra's. RWD and lots of potential! Your Dad will probably love the idea since he might not know that you can make these super fresh and fast.
That's some pretty good advice. I love those first gen SC300/GS300's. I would give up my S13 in a heartbeat for one.
thatskarma wrote:then when i leave this place, i could probably trade an is300 for like 2 "alright" 240s or maybe a nice a** one. Cuz most Is300s are automatic(and why would i want to be stuck with that).
He took your advice, and took a s*** on it.

SC300/GS300/IS300>Any 240, any day.

I smell a fan boy.

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I would rather have something reliable and not 20 years old.

Don't get me wrong though, I LOVE my sil40. And I love driving it.

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thatskarma wrote: Maybe i can get a Sentra Type R? Those look clean.
Go for a 6th gen Maxima! 260fwhp! Keep up with 350Z's!

Just lower it, get some good wheels and you're done.
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That's some pretty good advice. I love those first gen SC300/GS300's. I would give up my S13 in a heartbeat for one.

He took your advice, and took a s*** on it.

SC300/GS300/IS300>Any 240, any day.

I smell a fan boy.
Yeah, I lol'd at that. He's 17. He hasn't grown to appreciate nice things that aren't ratty yet. Most of us were there at some point, so it's all good.

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ScrapMetal wrote:
SC300/GS300/IS300>Any 240, any day.

I smell a fan boy.
You're comparing those to a 240sx? Come on, I'd love to have a G37 over a Honda Fit too.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:
You're comparing those to a 240sx? Come on, I'd love to have a G37 over a Honda Fit too.
No, the OP said if he ended up getting an IS, he'd sell it eventually and buy a few 240's instead. Terrible idea IMO, though. IS300's are all around better than 240's. Period. Hell, just about any Lexus is...

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Whatever.

I just want a Yaris.

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ScrapMetal wrote:
That's some pretty good advice. I love those first gen SC300/GS300's. I would give up my S13 in a heartbeat for one.

He took your advice, and took a s*** on it.

SC300/GS300/IS300>Any 240, any day.

I smell a fan boy.
Well I mean, the sc300 is nice and all, but I'm just a little more biased towards 240s seeing as my friends have them. Also, before this, I was really researching Miatas. I'm open to everything. I was just saying, if my dad is gonna spend more than 6k, I might as well try and get a Is300.Plus 240s and Miatas are hella cheap. Can you get an s300 for $3000 or a gs300? But yeah, i respect your opinion, because I am a noob.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:You're comparing those to a 240sx? Come on, I'd love to have a G37 over a Honda Fit too.
I'm comparing the first gen models of the SC and the GS to the 240 price wise. With the Lexus's, your getting more car for the money. And the IS is like simmode1 said, he's wants to trade an IS, for two 240s? I mean come on!

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No, the OP said if he ended up getting an IS, he'd sell it eventually and buy a few 240's instead. Terrible idea IMO, though. IS300's are all around better than 240's. Period. Hell, just about any Lexus is...
But most Is300s are automatic, and you have to pay a premium for 5 speed?

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Maybe he wants a cheaper car.

Have you ever owned anything like a Lexus to understand how complicated they are compared to a 240sx? Have you considered how much maintenance and parts will be for those? What if something in the interior breaks, would you know how to fix it? Believe me, the interior of one of those cars doesn't just "pop off" with a few screws and clips.

Not everyone wants an OLD luxury car that's a b**** to maintain and keep looking good.

The IS does not apply yet, because it's not quite old enough. But it's getting there.

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Quote »That's my worst fear. My parent's buying me a 15 grand Toyota Yaris "Sport" so I'm stuck with it for years and years to come [/quote]ahhh if thats the case just tell them you want a new mitsubishi lancer, its the best hp of cars under 15 grand and can be made fast once you get a job.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Maybe he wants a cheaper car.

Have you ever owned anything like a Lexus to understand how complicated they are compared to a 240sx? Have you considered how much maintenance and parts will be for those? What if something in the interior breaks, would you know how to fix it? Believe me, the interior of one of those cars doesn't just "pop off" with a few screws and clips.

Not everyone wants an OLD luxury car that's a b**** to maintain and keep looking good.

The IS does not apply yet, because it's not quite old enough. But it's getting there.
Thats true. And I'm not very mechanically inclined(which is why i was attracted to the car in the OP). If something broke in a Lexus, I'd definitely have to take it to the shop.

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thatskarma wrote:But most Is300s are automatic, and you have to pay a premium for 5 speed?
True, but if your dad is willing to spend $15k on a mediocre car like a Yaris, finding a 5spd IS around that price shouldn't be a problem. I think the real problem is that when you're looking in the $15k price range, you'll quickly find that there are other cars superior to both the Yaris and the IS. You could get a WRX or G35 coupe around that price.

Just let us know exactly what the budget is, because you went from talking about $4000 cars to $15,000. There's a whole slew of options in that range...
thatskarma wrote:Thats true. And I'm not very mechanically inclined(which is why i was attracted to the car in the OP). If something broke in a Lexus, I'd definitely have to take it to the shop.
And that is the reason I LOVE cash cars and hate car notes. Whenever you buy used, you're gonna have to expect some problem to pop up, whether its a $4k car or a $15k car. I'd much rather not have to worry about repair costs ontop of a monthly car note.
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ahhh if thats the case just tell them you want a new mitsubishi lancer, its the best hp of cars under 15 grand and can be made fast once you get a job.
wow. That just made so much sense, i feel retarded for not thinking about it sooner.The new lancers are actually really attractive!Hmm, thanks for the good idea!

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it might just boil down to his parents wanting him to have a brand new car and not a used, possible lemon

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us news article wrote: Recently, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety conducted car-to-car crash tests pitting some subcompacts against midsize sedans from the same automaker. In these tests, the Yaris tested poorly in frontal collisions against the 2009 Toyota Camry. Although crash tests don't necessarily replicate real-world collisions, those shopping in this class should be mindful. "The death rate in 1-3-year-old minicars in multiple-vehicle crashes during 2007 was almost twice as high as the rate in very large cars," an IIHS press release states.
For the love of all that is good in this world please do not buy a Yaris as your first car. The vast majority of teenage drivers will be involved in an accident in their first couple years of driving - I'd rather have a new driver start out driving a Ford Taurus simply because of the protection that is afforded to you out of a crash. Seriously.

The Yaris scares the crap out of me. So do any super-sub compacts like that (the mini, the smart car....etc...) it's just too damn small for someone with no experience. Even the 240 would be a better choice in terms of safety.

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simmode1 wrote:
True, but if your dad is willing to spend $15k on a mediocre car like a Yaris, finding a 5spd IS around that price shouldn't be a problem. I think the real problem is that when you're looking in the $15k price range, you'll quickly find that there are other cars superior to both the Yaris and the IS. You could get a WRX or G35 coupe around that price.

Just let us know exactly what the budget is, because you went from talking about $4000 cars to $15,000. There's a whole slew of options in that range...
Like either it's gonna be a really really cheap car >$5000or its going to be a brand new car probably up to $18,000. But yeah, I'm never going to squeeze a WRX or a G35 out of my parents. My dad talks about insurance 24/7, and can you imagine how horrible insurance would be for me on a g35 or wrx If you guys are feeling helpful, what I want is a car thats not overly meek. Like a car where, once I have my own money, it could be easily expanded to fit my performance needs. Thats why i was interested in 240sx, because they are relatively cheap, and the parts are them are cheap as well. Right now I'm just kind of surfing craigslist. Looking at some Vdub gtis. They look good to me.

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yeah a little over 150 hp for less than 15,000 in a brand new car that has awesome styling, why not see if they will go for that. mitsubishi makes good cars, i had a 03 lancer and wrecked it, did over 8 grand worth of damage and got it fixed and she still ran like a champ. the car was in my grandfathers name for insurance purposes and when i fell behind on my car payment he took it and traded it in for a new truck for himself instead of helping me out with my payments, ohh well. now all the cars i buy are in my name reguardless of insurance costs.

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Vdubs arent cheap to fix when they break, my friend that is a mechanic has a passat sitting in his driveway right now that he bought from a guy that couldnt afford to fix it, funny thing is my friend is using it as a parts car for his audi a4.

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marlin29311 wrote:
For the love of all that is good in this world please do not buy a Yaris as your first car. The vast majority of teenage drivers will be involved in an accident in their first couple years of driving - I'd rather have a new driver start out driving a Ford Taurus simply because of the protection that is afforded to you out of a crash. Seriously.

The Yaris scares the crap out of me. So do any super-sub compacts like that (the mini, the smart car....etc...) it's just too damn small for someone with no experience. Even the 240 would be a better choice in terms of safety.
God, I HATE the Smart car with a passion. At first they are a playful novelty, but then you realize someone just spent $18,000 on a 5 foot car that doesn't even get better gas mileage than a late model used civic.

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AHHHH!!! you guys are all lame for telling hiim not to get this clean a** silcoupe!!! Seriously, if you think this old car is dangerous for a first timer, then you obviously must not actually have a 240. if your parents are for some reason going to spring and get you a 15k car, then get a 350z or something. They are WAY better looking than lancers... lancers suck get somehting nissan and RWD.

And if you guys are seriously telling him to get a yaris or somehting gay like that, then you all should leave this forum and get out of the nissan scene and buy some lame fwd car...

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gnvarnadore wrote:yeah a little over 150 hp for less than 15,000 in a brand new car that has awesome styling, why not see if they will go for that. mitsubishi makes good cars, i had a 03 lancer and wrecked it, did over 8 grand worth of damage and got it fixed and she still ran like a champ. the car was in my grandfathers name for insurance purposes and when i fell behind on my car payment he took it and traded it in for a new truck for himself instead of helping me out with my payments, ohh well. now all the cars i buy are in my name reguardless of insurance costs.
Yeah dude i'm looking it up now http://www.mitsubishicars.com/...ex.do

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swift240sx wrote:AHHHH!!! you guys are all lame for telling hiim not to get this clean a** silcoupe!!! Seriously, if you think this old car is dangerous for a first timer, then you obviously must not actually have a 240. if your parents are for some reason going to spring and get you a 15k car, then get a 350z or something. They are WAY better looking than lancers... lancers suck get somehting nissan and RWD.

And if you guys are seriously telling him to get a yaris or somehting gay like that, then you all should leave this forum and get out of the nissan scene and buy some lame fwd car...

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No one really said it was dangerous, its mostly just my dad.And if i could get a 350z, i couldn't afford the insurance anyways.I'd prefer RWD though, but it looks like it wont end that way for me.

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you know another option would be to have your dad talk to a older guy that owns a 240 that can explain to him that they are good cars and arent dangerous and that insurance isnt that bad on them.

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IS300 is a good choice as well...real good choice....or you could, well i don't know if you'll like it, it might be a little older for your tastes but i plan on getting one soon...an 03-04 M45...hotnesss!!!!!!


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