S13 as first car.

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the best thing he can do is talk his dad into buying him a car that he likes because at the end of the day its his car and if he doesnt like it nor want it hes not going to respect it at all, its just that simple.


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gnvarnadore wrote:the best thing he can do is talk his dad into buying him a car that he likes because at the end of the day its his car and if he doesnt like it nor want it hes not going to respect it at all, its just that simple.
Exactly sums up my thoughts. I won't really respect the car, and if I ever crash it, it'll be no loss in my eyes.

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swift240sx wrote:AHHHH!!! you guys are all lame for telling hiim not to get this clean a** silcoupe!!! Seriously, if you think this old car is dangerous for a first timer, then you obviously must not actually have a 240. if your parents are for some reason going to spring and get you a 15k car, then get a 350z or something. They are WAY better looking than lancers... lancers suck get somehting nissan and RWD.

And if you guys are seriously telling him to get a yaris or somehting gay like that, then you all should leave this forum and get out of the nissan scene and buy some lame fwd car...

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Clearly did not read the thread.
thatskarma wrote:Like either it's gonna be a really really cheap car >$5000or its going to be a brand new car probably up to $18,000. But yeah, I'm never going to squeeze a WRX or a G35 out of my parents. My dad talks about insurance 24/7, and can you imagine how horrible insurance would be for me on a g35 or wrx If you guys are feeling helpful, what I want is a car thats not overly meek. Like a car where, once I have my own money, it could be easily expanded to fit my performance needs. Thats why i was interested in 240sx, because they are relatively cheap, and the parts are them are cheap as well. Right now I'm just kind of surfing craigslist. Looking at some Vdub gtis. They look good to me.
Completely understandable situation. I'd rather have periodic/infrequent repair costs anyday over a monthly car note.

There are plenty of cars with potential at or around $5k, but the problem is whether or not you and your parents can agree on whether it's a good car for you or not.

Here are car's I'd be looking at ~$5k:'91-'95 MR2'94+ Miata'97-'98 240sx only'94-'98 GS300/400SC 300/400MKIII SupraEK Civic hatch (but only if I had to... )

The point you need to get across to your parents is that mechanical problems are inevitable. But the money you save in car notes and insurance will be more enough to cover any repairs/maintanance you may need. Just be sure to pick a car in good condition to minimize the amount of work you need to put into it. This is how I consider my buys. Arm yourself with info. Find out the typical problems with whatever car your interested in and the typical repair costs and prepare for that.
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gnvarnadore wrote:it might just boil down to his parents wanting him to have a brand new car and not a used, possible lemon
Most likely.They most likely dont understand or do but dont want him to join the Tuner culture.

Sorry bud, it looks like till you are earning ur own ur gonna be at the mercy of ur parents. No SX for you, when you get older youll get one.Theres still tons of S13s around.


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I hope ya get something you like. My first 240sx was given to me at his age in early 2003. I havent looked back since lol.

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Thanks everyone for all the input. I'm probably just going to lurk these forums.If I get a Nissan, I'll definitely be back!

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get that silvia, looks super clean check it out and get it..

what the hell are you debating about

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I was in the stage of selling my coupe for an sc300/400. I looked more into it and turns out you need a sh*t load of money if you want to have any noticeable power in an sc. And a lot of the stuff you would have to order from out of states. since theres not many sc parts floating around in the us. Same goes for an ls400 and im almost certain the gs models as well. I thought a lot to myself and decided to stick my foot up my own arse and keep my 240. Just get a stock looking 97-98 s14 and show them that! i never met any adult who doesn't appreciate that car. Im not a fan boy at all i just like this car. I gave just about every other car available a look so as a second car, yes i would get an sc, ls, gs, or even a q45 and m45, but only for a daily. Thats just my 15 cents.

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[QUOTE=simmode1]

Clearly did not read the thread.

Nope not really... he should just buy the coupe because he will love it and its very clean. but whatevs not my car or money, so he should just get whatever he wants and not ask a bunch of fools

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swift240sx wrote:
simmode1 wrote:
Clearly did not read the thread.

Nope not really... he should just buy the coupe because he will love it and its very clean. but whatevs not my car or money, so he should just get whatever he wants and not ask a bunch of fools
This has to be the most stupid post made in a while. If you would read the goddamned thread before making retarded comments, you would see that the majority of us recommended that he get that car. But after our urging him to get it, his parents shot down the idea because it didn't have A/C or a working radio, nor did they want him anything generally considered 'fun'. From there we simply went on to offer other suggestions...

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simmode1 wrote:


This has to be the most stupid post made in a while. If you would read the goddamned thread before making retarded comments, you would see that the majority of us recommended that he get that car. But after our urging him to get it, his parents shot down the idea because it didn't have A/C or a working radio, nor did they want him anything generally considered 'fun'. From there we simply went on to offer other suggestions...
In case you guys are interested, we went to a dealership today, and there was a b15 black 6 speed Sentra Se-R Spec V(i assume cuz those are only 6 speeds according to wiki) for $7000. I could possibly get it.OR. a orange gay dodge caliber. I'm gonna push for the sentra!

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go for the YARIS!if you get a 240. you'll drop $10-15k like water! just letting you know what you're getting yourself into. be prepared to be broke for couple of years. you'll blow your paychecks in your car like a weekend warrior drug addict.

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marlin29311 wrote:
For the love of all that is good in this world please do not buy a Yaris as your first car. The vast majority of teenage drivers will be involved in an accident in their first couple years of driving - I'd rather have a new driver start out driving a Ford Taurus simply because of the protection that is afforded to you out of a crash. Seriously.

The Yaris scares the crap out of me. So do any super-sub compacts like that (the mini, the smart car....etc...) it's just too damn small for someone with no experience. Even the 240 would be a better choice in terms of safety.
The Yaris (and any newer car) gets great crash ratings. a 240 doesnt even have air bags. It would not even pass todays standards for safety.

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Buy a 240! do it! do it! I dare you. I double dare you!

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BTW my parents were totally oppressive like that. If you are smart you will tell your parents to shove that money, then you will get a job that you can ride your bike to and make it on your own two feet. If you dont, you run the risk of ending up like me driving my parents 2wd tacoma until I was 22 because "If we are gonna pay for your college we dont want you wasting money on a car" 3 and a half years of college... 9 units to graduate... I finally woke up and got married, got my wife pregnant, got a job, a house and a 240sx. Im now a college dropout making crap for money but I have never felt more free in my life... so yeah. Take it from me. Dont take your parents money.

but if you do... get a mazda3 with the 2.3 liter. My wife has one and its way faster than a lancer, sentra or civic. It handles like it is on rails bone stock. Plus that car looks freakin sweet. and the hatchback gives you plenty of room to tote your crap around.

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I know he cant get the car, jus thought id put some input for future refference.im 17 and ive been driving my 240 for a year, it beeing my first car. I thought it was an amazing first car considering there are no REAL blind spots opposed to my sisters tC witch i wont even drive because its impossible to keep up with your surroundings. anyways, to me i liked the 240 for how smalll and compact it was. i have a 92 coupe and i have fallen in love, not a single wreck and me and my step dad do all the labor i wax it as offten as neccessary, also plan to take out the engine just to clean it hands down, my pride and joy =D sooo, not all teenagers cant take care of there first car, a 240 for that matter ahah

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Metal Angel wrote:
The Yaris (and any newer car) gets great crash ratings. a 240 doesnt even have air bags. It would not even pass todays standards for safety.
Misinformation. 240's do have airbags. I know both mine do.

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Metal Angel wrote:
The Yaris (and any newer car) gets great crash ratings. a 240 doesnt even have air bags. It would not even pass todays standards for safety.
SXs do have airbags.As for passing todays safety standards, i dont know for sure, but im pretty sure it would.

It has SeatbeltsHas crumple zonesHas airbagsand a Laminated windshield.

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@ karma im the same age as you and goinna be a senior too. parents are also kinda help me out with buying my car...

Anyway you should check out '87 cressidas too. those things are pimp

and if you parents would import (probably not) a car for you, you could always get a Soarer Z10

But after what seeing what other people posted, SC300 or a GS300 are great choices, id go with the SC though haha

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simmode1 wrote:
Misinformation. 240's do have airbags. I know both mine do.
Nali wrote:
SXs do have airbags.As for passing todays safety standards, i dont know for sure, but im pretty sure it would.

It has SeatbeltsHas crumple zonesHas airbagsand a Laminated windshield.
As far as the FSM's suppiled by NICO only 95's and up 240's have airbags. I know my 92 doesn't have them.[

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simmode1 wrote:
Misinformation. 240's do have airbags. I know both mine do.
Hopes and dreams aint airbags. I dont know about S14s but the OP was about an S13 and they certaily do not have airbags. I have had a 93 hatch se and now I have a 90 hatch base and neither of them have airbags.

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S13_love wrote:I'd say just go ahead and get it...

and don't wreck it.

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Metal Angel wrote:
The Yaris (and any newer car) gets great crash ratings.
...against cars of the similar size....this is why people are so ill informed...

Crash test ratings are when the car is pitted against a car of similar size - Yaris vs Yaris. Put the Yaris in an accident against a Suburban or a Crown Vic, and you won't know that it was a Yaris.

Small cars fail for new drivers.

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marlin29311 wrote:
...against cars of the similar size....this is why people are so ill informed...

Crash test ratings are when the car is pitted against a car of similar size - Yaris vs Yaris. Put the Yaris in an accident against a Suburban or a Crown Vic, and you won't know that it was a Yaris.

Small cars fail for new drivers.
Well with that logic we better not recommend anything smaller than a semi-truck to this kid. The point is there will always be a bigger vehicle to smash yours (even a semi-truck could be hit by a train) As for a small economy car the yaris is pretty safe. Much safer than a 240sx. I would still recommend the 240sx though. Just drive safe and be aware of your surroundings.

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Metal Angel wrote:
Well with that logic we better not recommend anything smaller than a semi-truck to this kid. The point is there will always be a bigger vehicle to smash yours (even a semi-truck could be hit by a train) As for a small economy car the yaris is pretty safe. Much safer than a 240sx. I would still recommend the 240sx though. Just drive safe and be aware of your surroundings.
No, with this logic I would recommend a midsized sedan for him. Yea, there will always be something bigger, but seeing as the vast majority of teenage drivers are involved in accidents, wouldn't you want your kid to be in something that is going to afford them more protection if/when that accident happens?

I was in a pretty bad accident when I was 17 - I was hit by some woman in a bloody SUV - it warped the frame of my 2000 taurus on impact - if I was in a Yaris, I probably wouldn't be here today/wouldn't be who I am - I'd be a vegetable.

At least the 240 has more body around it. Front airbags are almost pointless for people that have their seatbelts on and have the seat set properly (though curtian airbags and stuff are actually useful...)



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