Real World Gas Mileage

[chano129]

I am sorry to mislead you the real milage posted by the Japan Government for the Tiida is 16.4 km/l and not 17km/l, which 16.4 calculated to be 37.68, however it should be known to you that alot of people claims to get 17 to 18 km/l from the MR1.8DE

[Link3]

THE VERSA WITH CVT IS A BIT TRICKY TO DRIVE,because the Nissan new engines can achive almost there full torque at 2400 RPM, it recommended by the Jap and Singaporeans to drive it with the Rpm within 2500-2600... The point is the CVT might be in a low gear instead of a high one during acceleration so keep it about there. please post and let us know if it works for you CVTs drivers.

This seems in line with my own experience. If I accelerate somewhat gently, feathering the gas pedal and keeping the RPMs under acceleration at or below 2400, then I can achieve noticeably better fuel economy. Also, highway cruising at 2400 RPMs on a flat surface, which yields about 65 MPH, seems like a pretty good fuel economy speed (at a cost of only about 5+ minutes per hour during a trip).

[jacksan1]

I am sorry to mislead you the real milage posted by the Japan Government for the Tiida is 16.4 km/l and not 17km/l, which 16.4 calculated to be 37.68, however it should be known to you that alot of people claims to get 17 to 18 km/l from the MR1.8DE

There is an official Tiida blog on the Nissan (Japan) site that is written by Nissan employees. They drive Tiidas around Japan in different conditions, and rather honestly report what kind of mileage they obtained in real-world conditions. When they last drove a Tiida 18G with MR1.8DE for 496km, they got 12.6km/l, which is approximately 29.6 MPG. The blog even says that this is what they got, even though the official fuel rating for the same car is 16.4km/l. I am rather amazed by the candor - remember that this is an offical blog site put out by Nissan.

[Gosh]

very sorry, was mixing up the 2 metres for kilometres. rather than the 620-680 per tank, my versa gets 520-580 per tank. and there is 2700 kms on it. not sure what that works to in mpg.

p.s. Go Metric !

[chano129]

There is an official Tiida blog on the Nissan (Japan) site that is written by Nissan employees. They drive Tiidas around Japan in different conditions, and rather honestly report what kind of mileage they obtained in real-world conditions. When they last drove a Tiida 18G with MR1.8DE for 496km, they got 12.6km/l, which is approximately 29.6 MPG. The blog even says that this is what they got, even though the official fuel rating for the same car is 16.4km/l. I am rather amazed by the candor - remember that this is an offical blog site put out by Nissan.

That is correct my friend driving condition makes the car milage varies, like the altitude, the type of gas, traffic and your foot and aslo weight. The corolla Altis 1.6 which has a smaller engine when driven by drivers got around 10.2km/l some 13.2km/l and sometimes 14km/l and it bet it is the same for Tiida, different milage. The 2006 Toyota Corolla 1.8 which states up to 40 mgp(manual) when driven only got 33 mpg to 34 mgp, and remeber it is lighter than the Versa, what you say about that.But you could get more depending on conditions. A car gives more milage in a cool place rather more than when it is hot.

[chano129]

I must also applied that most of your gas waste in traffic, trackling in city driving, burn alot of gas,being proving over and over, if you do alot of city driving expect any thing even as as 22 mgp, even fit and yaris drvers are experiencing the same effects.

[chano129]

And for that Nissan bllog this is what the Guy exactly states "When and, this after the long drive ending, making for the second time gasoline full tank, photographing.

Sort of viewing, as for the latest travel distance 493.2km!

And…

This territory acquisition of that time.Just a little it is not visible and it is the leprosy, but 39.26L it entered.

With with the notion that where you say, with the latest long drive, it was the result, 12.6km/L.There was also mountain path travelling and the part procrastination etc which, have up-down comparatively, it is not to be very numerical value, probably will be?

* 10.15 modes of [teida] 18G (national traffic economical examination value) 16.4km/L.* Fuel economy differs depending upon riding in a car number of people and the weather and road circumstance etc. As for the latest numerical value please think as one example."You see He is repeated what I just post, and remeber mountian or hill gives the engine more workand it burns more petrol ,lookat yuor rpm when climb steep hills and high rev it will send rpm up to all 4000rpm, and remeber he states he had some delays I think he meant traffic (the word propractination means obstuct or delay). So 12km/l is pretty decent take those condition in mind.

[chano129]

here is another driver statement,

"Including this time, from last week above 2000km it ran at NISSAN TIIDA, but as for average fuel economy approximately 13.6km/ã?‘. Almost, because procrastination it is not it was highway + countryside road main, you thought as the kana which already fuel economy extends a little, but if well 1800cc4AT, will such probably be is?"

You see my point different conditions vary milage, 13.6km/l = to 31 usa mpg and 36mpg imperial. He also has delays and other conitions.I think i made my point, each driver will get different milage depends on conditions.

[OKVersa]

I'm convinced the A/C puts a big drain on the mileage as well.

[Ever Victorious]

Hey chano... I appreciate all the information you are giving here... but could you do me a favor? Could you, when you are going to post multiple consecutive posts like that, just copy and paste it all into note pad before you post it, and then copy and paste it into our editor? The board system is capable of some really LONG posts, but it's seems harder to follow your information when you break it down into multiple posts. Thanks...

[chano129]

That is so correct OK VERSA, A/C does make the car burn more petrol and makes it works harder. Now let me see if I can spread some more light here.

I am sure that the EPA test was done at 100km/h or about 60 mph at constant speed, for highway, and the city around 60km/h or 35 mph at constant speed.So you see Nissan should not be blame totally,EPA needs to bring better testing methods in place, although I heard they are going to. But in the real driving world this does not aplied, you cannot have a constant speed in city, only on the highway, but some times there is even traffic jams on the highway and you have to drive at 60 mph only.

I also found out why it is recommended to drive the CVT and Also the AT/transmission at 2500RPM.I was observing a Nissan car and also a Honda Civic.My observation is at 2500 rpm, it is about 60-65 mph, but as soon as it went to 70mph(120) the rpm went to 3000 rpm and when You put the car at 80 mph(140) the rpm went to 4000rpm. At 4000 rpm the gas gauge needle start to dive, when the cars goes to 3000 rpm, the gas gauge needle moves slower when both cars are at 2500 rpm the gas gauge needle did not appear to be moving at all but it was, only very very slow. The theory behind all vehicles, the faster you go the more gas you burn, and if you go slow you also burn gas, but if you drive in between the range then it is conserving.

On the subject of the real gas milage of Versas, i will be doing more research

N.B. sorry for the errors in my posts, I promise to post them better.Hope i am helping all the Versa drivers

[chano129]

I am sorry to do this, but i had to address datgrl and jackscan. First of all you cannot compare a 1500cc to an 1800cc engine.it is crazy to do so.A fit is 1500cc and also the scion AxB and the versa 1800cc. the fit and the scion is lighter and the versa is heavier than even a corolla a C segment compact car,that why nissan advertized it as a spacious car not exactly a B compact car although it is built on a B plaform.Why not comparing it to a Corolla and a Civic which all engines are 1800cc. I will bet that the milage are about the same as the Versa.And do not tell me people get 40 in a corolla mpg because i read a post in yahoo, where a guy claims he is getting 40 mpg with his VERSA and some people 38 mpg in this forum.We are not here to bash Nissan or you,but to assist drivers like yourself get more out of your Versa if you have one.And if you where reading my post you would see that your car needs to break in, first to see your perfect 40 mpg, because of the new parts.

I will tell you why it needs to breaking.Because we donot have the slightest clue that we have one of the strongest and almost a frictioness engine of all times.

Nissan has substantially reduced friction between engine parts by developing the first technology in the world to combine a hydrogen-free diamond-like carbon (DLC)*1 coating with special oil.

*1 DLC (diamond-like carbon): A hard film made of carbon which has diamond-like properties. It has superior abrasion resistance and a low friction coefficient.

Energy is lost due to friction that arises between the hundreds of parts that comprise an engine. This ultra-low friction technology uses nanotechnology in order to reduce friction.

Reduces friction by approximately 40% compared to conventional engines, by forming an ultra-low friction film of nanometer*2 level thickness on top of the hydrogen-free DLC coating.

*2 One hundred millionth of a meterUse of a hydrogen-free DLC coating improves binding with the engine oil and results in the formation of a firm ultra-low friction film when special oil additives are added.It is now possible to reduce overall engine friction by 25% by applying the technology to Valve lifter piston rings and piston pins. this is what I can explain in my own terms,when there is a change in oil, at each change in oil, the engine becomes more frictionless and hence you have more milage. please visit this web site to learn more.

http://www.nissan-global.com/E....html

[motoguy128]

chano,

Actually, you can get 40mpg in a Corolla. Typical is 38mpg of mostly freeway drivng at 70-75mph. A 50/50 mix will give you around 35 or so. With a 1500lb trailer, the mileage will drop down to 20-25mpg going 70-80mph.

I know all this from personla experience.

I get 29-32mpg in my Versa in mixed driving. That's fine with me and about what I expected.

The Corolla has better aerodynamics, taller, wider spaced gearing, weighs 300lbs less and overall Toyota is known for getting exceptional economy while having adequate real world performance. Honda powerplats are more peaky, but alos have excellent economy. Nissan unfortunately is know more for performance and have never matched up well for economy.

[Ever Victorious]

On the subject of the real gas milage of Versas, i will be doing more research

Just remember, I am already conducting a study on this very topic. I already have some good data, and a lot more coming in. I will be able to point to specific factors that cause increase/decrease in economy.

[chano129]

first of all i must commend you you are right nissans were performance cars but today there is a shift, they have gone to building fuel efficent cars, now you have to buy there performance cars, like the SER sentra to be debuted later.

That is expected motoguy if the corolla is lighter, but how much miles or km you have on the versa?Have you have an oil change yet?what petrol do you use?

why i am ask motoguy if you visit the nissan website you would under stand why your figure are still were they are and people do get 40 mpg with their versas too,but have oil change, you see most people achieve this on third or fourth oil change, so the nissan does have a point.The car is fairly new give it some time to work in if after 5000miles or 8000km and still no improvement will take it back to the dealer.

[chano129]

moto guy here are some blog for you to read.hope they helps.Latio ,Tiida and Versa are the same.

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With Quote Yes, NO MORE nightmares. I did a test after complaining about FC on my new Nissan Latio Sport. I started the test with a full tank (till I saw petrol at opening) and went for a ride (mainly highway). After 22.6km, I went back to the same petrol station and refilled full tank again (till I saw petrol at opening). It consumed only 1.37 litres. Which means my Nissan Latio Sport could hit 1 litre = 16.5km!!! The trick is you have to maximise Auto CVT function of the car - crossing 2,500r whenever possible (I was always driving less than 2,000r which meant driving on low gear - a drag on engine = FC high).

1 litre = 16.5km for my Nissan Latio Sport is a testament of a very superb car. I am completely 'floored' by the result.

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only the stubborn and stupid will continue to believe toyota gives better fc. altis is not much better than sunny but when compared to its competitor, ie latio, altis fc sucks big time. im consistently getting 14+km/l for latio. previous pre fl n16 gave me 10+km/l. see the improvement nissan made???

altis is giving the ave driver 12+km/l. my friend altis gets him 10+km/l compared to his old manual mazda 323 that gets him 13+km/l.

3pump, ur reasoning sounds rite but some companies do have better technology rite? juz like how some 1.6 has more power compared to others? nissan improvement is thru technology adopted from renault.

my latio has gone through >15 tanks of petrol. during which, only 1 tank at 12.x, 2-3 tanks at 13.x and the rest at 14.x (one tank at 15.x) km/l. my driving habits is same and comparing to my pre fl n16, this IS improvement. is it better than altis or other cars? i cant comment from experience but based on information from drivers, latio gives 13.x min whereas altis is giving 12.x at best!

ALTIS I AN COROLLA WIYH 1600CC THE LATIO HAS 1500CC BUT I WAS SAYING BEFORE MOTOGUY THESE GUYS DID NOT ACHIEVE THE FIGURE SUDDENLY IT WAS AFTER DRIVING AT LEAST 3000MILES NOT LESS,THEN THE GOOD FIGURE COME ALONG 15 TANKS MUTIPLY BY 420 =6300KM gO TO THE NISSAN WEB SITE AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY YOU NEED THE BREAK IN.

[chano129]

The statement the guy made about nissan copying renualt technology well that is not true, the engines was develop buy engineer from nissan and renault, andthe manual gear box provide by renault, the CVT is from Jatco where nissan is majority shareholder.I think people lost touch with Nissan because of their bankurupcy leading to pass quality, but not in class with Honda and Toyota, but I can certainly tell all those Honda and Toyota fans NISSAN is back and want back their status as number one.Donot believe me compare the interior of the versa to a yaris even to a corolla. does not the versa has more stuff in side?

[jacksan1]

I am starting to feel uncomfortable in this thread. Guess why?

[Ever Victorious]

Alright. This topic is starting to drift.

There has been enough stuff said here, both relevant and irrelevant.

[Ever Victorious]

Thread unlocked.

[kc5f]

Hopefully back on topic...

I think with almost 9000 miles on it and two oil changes my engine ought to be broken in. Some folks have talked about mileage getting better after break-in, but mine, at least, has been relatively consistent. (CVT, about 75-80% highway, a good portion of that in the mountains.)

Someone mentioned getting better mileage in cooler weather, but I have a feeling that's because of A/C usage in the summer. I don't use it much, and on my Probe the mileage consistently was 2mpg better in the summer. The Versa seems to be following the same trend.

(I tried uploading an image of a mileage graph, but I guess attachments aren't enabled in this thread...)

Odom/Gallons/Miles/Mileage/Average842 11.7 380 32.5 32.51227 12.2 385 31.6 32.01573 10.3 346 33.6 32.51670 3.0 97 32.3 32.52043 11.4 373 32.7 32.52397 10.9 354 32.5 32.52773 11.1 376 33.9 32.73173 12.2 400 32.8 32.73545 11.5 372 32.3 32.73919 12.0 374 31.2 32.54310 12.0 391 32.6 32.54642 10.3 332 32.4 32.55026 12.8 384 30.0 32.35356 10.1 330 32.7 32.45679 10.1 323 32.0 32.36008 10.3 329 31.9 32.36335 10.5 327 31.1 32.26697 11.3 362 32.0 32.27050 11.0 353 32.1 32.27278 7.4 228 30.8 32.17636 11.6 358 30.9 32.17958 10.5 322 30.7 32.08335 11.8 377 31.9 32.08720 11.5 385 33.5 32.1

[c5neb]

Those look like my averages with the six-speed. I use cruise control about 30% of the time.

[Ever Victorious]

Someone mentioned getting better mileage in cooler weather, but I have a feeling that's because of A/C usage in the summer. I don't use it much, and on my Probe the mileage consistently was 2mpg better in the summer. The Versa seems to be following the same trend.

(I tried uploading an image of a mileage graph, but I guess attachments aren't enabled in this thread...)

In some locales, they stick 10% ethanol in the fuel during the winter, which could account for a fuel economy loss during the winter. Some places, they put this in year round... like where I live.

Attachments aren't disabled... the attachment function on the board periodically doesn't work. If you have a photobucket account, you can always link in the image from there.

[BenDupre]

How do you know if they're putting 10% ethanol in the gas?

Here is Iowa, state law mandates every station sell E10 at a subsidized rate. I never pump it. Costs me 5-10 cents more but I know I'll get better mileage from the regular gas.

Now that it's winter, are they sneaking ethanol into the gas that's suppoesd to NOT contain ethanol? I wonder.

Ben

[motoguy128]

The stations are required to place a sticker at the pump that states if it contains ethanol. Some older cars are not designed to run with it, they could be liable for damage to your engine if it's not marked at containing ethanol.

I don't think you'll notice a significant mileage drop with only 10% ethanol. It will be within any measurement errors and normal environmental variances.

I'm still averaging aroudn 30mpg. I dropped a little this last tank due to the cold weather and more short trip driving. I'm still doing better than my '04 Accord, so I'm satisfied.

[RicoOnTheRocks]

bump to keep this thread alive

i'm averaging about 29 mpg with a combo of highway and city. heat on most of the time ( i have a little wife. she gets cold easily). only 1100 miles on the car thus far.

[Mudd]

My mileage hasn't changed much since I first posted. Still haven't had the chance to take a long trip for a check. I did do a 126 mile round trip recently. Pulled into the wind going and got a push coming back. Filled at the same station that I filled from before leaving. Pumped 3.6 into the tank. Looks like a slight increase over town/country I'm getting (33.4). Would not take my money back for it. Am well pleased.

In this part of the state traffic is no problem and if you want to drive 75 there is usually nothing to hinder that except for State Troopers!

[rwanttaja]

How do you know if they're putting 10% ethanol in the gas?

Testing is actually quite simple. Get a small container like a baby food jar or, preferably, a test tube (I bought a set of three test tubes at the local hobby store for $4).

Using a felt-tip pen, mark a line about one tenth the way up from the bottom.

Put water in the container up to the line, then fill the container the rest of the way with the fuel you want to test. Note that the water is colorless, and the fuel is tinted, so you can seee the demarcation line between the fuel and the water.

Close the container, and shake it for about twenty seconds. Set it down upright and let the contents separate.

The water you added to the container will absorb any ethanol. If the demarcation line between water and fuel is at the previously-marked line, there's no ethanol in the fuel. If there seems to be more water than you started with, the fuel has ethanol.

See Page 5 in:

http://www.eaa26.org/apr06.pdf

Ron

[Ever Victorious]

For what its worth, my last 3 tanks have all been at 27 mpg, down from a very steady 30.

[campersand]

There's been some talk about possibly being able to recalibrate something or other on the CVT in the future to try to help with mileage. Anyone know if that's really a possibility or are we stuck with the mileage we're getting now?