RacingLine Header/Y-pipe

[EzeebMOS3]

Here you go RacingLine, your own thread!

Could you possibly give a bit more information(price, CATs, emissions, power gains) on the current product (y-pipe) you guys are developing....it would be much appreciated!

Keep us updated on the progress!PICS?!?

[mcheddadi]

if it doesn't cost me 1000$ to install I want it lol

[EzeebMOS3]

I believe that a y-pipe is being developed that costs under $300 and removes the third CAT; which will have no effect on emissions test. Performance gains are not guaranteed but on their previous products for the older Maximas’ they say they got 13WHP i think.

Sounds good to me, sign me up!

[Hussain]

talked to my local muffler shop and the guy said he'd take off my 3rd cat for $50 to $60........ that's take off the 3rd cat and replace that portion with pipe thats 2.5" or 3" diameter (which ever i choose). not all shops will do this though (because technically it is illegal) but me and my friends always go to this guy so he doesn't care. a lot of mods can be done for less then half the price if you know a local muffler shop or can do it yourself (like brandon is doing with a Borla muffler)

[AltiCoupeDriver]

Okay, I just read Racingline's post, they needed their own thread. I really hope we can get this under $200 or close.

Also, does anyone know if they check for missing cats in inspections?

[spockrock]

Hi guys,

Ok so I got my car back today the y-pipe prototype is built. I haven't talked to Joe, yet. I prolly wont tonight, I just got back from my gf's and tried to take pictures, for the cutoffs. I have an early business meeting so I wont be up late.

[Racingline]

Ok I will do my best to answer all questions/comments as best i can:

Cost will be under $300, I'll be shooting for the same price range as the other y pipes which is $265ea (=$20 per HP, That's more hp/$ than a turbo, a cat back, or an intake)

These will delete the 3rd unmetered cat, as well they will be larger tubing with full 304 Stainless steel mandrel bends.

The car will pass all physical emissions tests

Install time is 30min, it is very easy and can be done on the driveway with the vehicel safely supported on stands.

Our 2005 6spd maxima (which is very similar setup/hp) with stock exhaust dynoed +13whp, +14wtq. dynos were performed on the same dyno, on the same day. And as many of you familiar with the Newer Nissans will know, these cars always respond better to mods after a few days so the Computer has had a chance to adjust. but we'll wait till we can dyno the coupe to verify. If the number line up with expectations, then great. if they fal short we will re-dyno a week later to see if there have been any improvements.

[quote=""Hussain""]talked to my local muffler shop and the guy said he'd take off my 3rd cat for $50 to $60........ that's take off the 3rd cat and replace that portion with pipe thats 2.5" or 3" diameter (which ever i choose). not all shops will do this though (because technically it is illegal) but me and my friends always go to this guy so he doesn't care. a lot of mods can be done for less then half the price if you know a local muffler shop or can do it yourself [/quote]Although this is true with many mods,many things must also be concidered.1. your method is unreversable2. a full ypipe is engineered to also flow better then the stock bends, the cat is not the only restriction in the ypipe.3. Our ypipe is made with full 304 stainless steel and will not rust4. We only use lined flex sections, which will not buzz or fall apart like the OEM ones, they are much more durable ( and expensive)5. mandrel bends + larger diameter piping throughout the pipe, not just 1 1foot section.

The prototype was just finshed, and initial impressions are good. sound is increased, but ever so slightly, just enought to deeper the already sweet purr the vq already has. Probably 5db increase at the most.

we did not dyno the prototype as it was pieced together, when a full mandrel bend production sample is ready we will then perform a dyno run.

We should have something to offer to retail towards the end of October

teaser shot

AND YES WE MIGHT OFFER A GB IF YOUR ALL GOOD LITTLE BOYS AND GIRLS

[ursus]

Taz, I assume the y-pipes for the sedans are different? (I really hope not) If it is different, any chance of you making one for the sedans? thx.

[Infantry1327]

lets hear some sound clips please.

[Racingline]

From past experience and personal opinion this pipe will fit coupes and sedans 6spd. CVT possibly. Whatever applications it does not fit will eventually follow.

but for now 6spd V6 coupes first

No sound clips yet as the pipe in this pic was removed so that a jig can be made. From there a 1 piece ypipe can be bent, opposed to the several cuts and welds seen in the pic above.
Modified by Racingline at 11:21 PM 9/17/2008

[ursus]

Sounds good! Taz if u ever need a testing 6spd sedan im down to swap it for you, in the event that you cant find a 6spd sedan locally around you. Cant wait!

[Infantry1327]

you do realize raceline is in canada don't you? That is a pretty far drive just to get a y-pipe.

[Racingline]

here are some you tube links. It's the best I got for now

stock SER with y pipehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWvdx4LsuI4http ... s4wy-6yDvg

stock maxima before y pipe (CVT)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rSTYkK3ES0

stock maxima after y pipe (CVT)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQCgnNH5dDQ

dyno graphhttp://www.racinglineperforman...1.jpg

[ursus]

you do realize raceline is in canada don't you? That is a pretty far drive just to get a y-pipe.

Yezzur im aware, i already have their front/rear endlinks on my car. I was referring to mailing them to me of course. I believe the endlink testin was done that way too.

[Hussain]

thanks for clearing that up. i wasn't sure what exactly was going to be part of the "Y-pipe". everyone just kept talking about how it takes off the 3rd cat and i was like well, i can get that done cheap. but ya, yours is more then just taking off the cat and it is the best mod in the performance for the $

[EzeebMOS3]

You said that the 6spd coupe will be first, but there are many of us with the CVT....

When do you think you guys will have the CVT available?!?

[spockrock]

You said that the 6spd coupe will be first, but there are many of us with the CVT....

When do you think you guys will have the CVT available?!?

I cannot see why the CVT and 6MT y-pipes would be different, lol but could be way off.

[adidas2go]

Hmmm, Its not gonna pass smog tests without that third cat kiddies. So, don't throw away your stock pipes just yet

[bina12834]

nothing for us 2.5ers?

[Voodoo Coupe]

nothing for us 2.5ers?

+1

[Racingline]

Hmmm, Its not gonna pass smog tests without that third cat kiddies. So, don't throw away your stock pipes just yet

If your state requires a VISUAL test then you may get dinged on that. But you WILL pass the sniffer test with this y pipe. If your state does do a visual, it only takes 30 min to install the old pipe using hand tools.

CVT and 6spd should be the same, but we'll know for sure when the production sample comes in and we can get under both cars. In the short term if anyone can take pics of under the CVT it'll give me a better idea if we'll need to fabricate 2 different pipes.

2.5's-it is my understanding that stillen is making (or at least planing) a full header and down pipe combo for you guys, so you'll be taken care of.

[EzeebMOS3]

Hey RacingLine, i had my car (CVT) up on the lift and it looked identical to the "teaser pic" of the 6spd you posted before. I can try to get some pics to you soon.

[AltiCoupeDriver]

Is that the cost including the third cat or w/o? I hope that the group buy is a good deal because $265 sounds steep. Would I benefit more with the y pipe if I had an after market cat-back, and are you guys planning on making an exhaust? The only reason I really wanted one was due to the sound/looks, but if I won't really benefit and if the y-pipe will make it sound as good as that SER just the y-pipe would suffice.

[Racingline]

Is that the cost including the third cat or w/o? I hope that the group buy is a good deal because $265 sounds steep. Would I benefit more with the y pipe if I had an after market cat-back, and are you guys planning on making an exhaust? The only reason I really wanted one was due to the sound/looks, but if I won't really benefit and if the y-pipe will make it sound as good as that SER just the y-pipe would suffice.

Without a cat.

I fail to see how <$300 for almost 15whp is steep, when most people are spending $600-$800 on a catback that only yields 5-7whp. but that's just me.

The HP claims and dynos provided were done using a STOCK exhaust. A catback will help the flow and power slightly.

[EzeebMOS3]

The price is definitely reasonable, however doesnt 15whp seem a bit much? i mean there's no more power being produced in the engine, and is our exhaust really that restrictive?

But i mean if it is true that's awesome that for under 300 your gaining 15whp... i mean thats typically what you see when getting a piggyback ecu mod....

either way im still purchasing! haha

[AltiCoupeDriver]

Different points of view I guess. So about how much do you think the cat would run and is getting it welded expensive? Also, looking at the dyno graph, it looks like it increases power through all rpms, am I right or will we lose any on the low end? And I though it was 13whp not 15, btw how much is that in reg HP?

[TheBourneAltimatum]

The price is definitely reasonable, however doesnt 15whp seem a bit much? i mean there's no more power being produced in the engine, and is our exhaust really that restrictive?

But i mean if it is true that's awesome that for under 300 your gaining 15whp... i mean thats typically what you see when getting a piggyback ecu mod....

either way im still purchasing! haha

15WHP is pretty damn good....i never understood how people can drop a $1000 on ricey Greddy Ti-C's, or any other type of exhaust system that only yeilds in about 5-6whp and complain about a mod that actually gives out good power and costs so much cheaper..... and besides...you can get much more than 15 whp out of a y-pipe if tuned properly with a SFACII or greddy emange

[AltiCoupeDriver]

Yeah you can get a lot out of every bolt on with a tune, but nobody has done so yet. So lets talk about whats at hand and what we're actually getting. Also, I was just going by y-pipe prices I saw on ebay, I know they'll be much lower, but I didn't expect it to be that far apart. I also didn't know companies sold their products by x amount of dollars per hp. I hope the materials actually cost this much, because at the end of the day who likes to be taken? Do you? I don't. No disrespect to RacingLine, I'm just making the necessary inquiries for a product to insure my faith in it and not end up with buyer's remorse.

[spockrock]

cant wait to dyno the car
Modified by spockrock at 3:24 PM 9/18/2008

[AltiCoupeDriver]

I guess you didn't read anything I wrote... I just thought it was steep compared to some of the other prices I saw online. I'm pretty sure me thinking a y-pipe is steep doesn't equate to me wanting a miracle $20 turbo kit, no need for you guys to get your panties in a bunch over what I think is a good value or not. I never flat out said "zomg thats t00 much wut r ya thinkin!11". I will probably end up getting this too, but asking for something cheaper never hurts, does it? I can tell some of you really are negotiators, huh. With that said lets drop this and keep this thread clean, I'm done.. (feel free to delete the useless chatter in here if you must)