On my way into the office today...

[ERIC s.-14]

Congratulations you have a bunch of 240 guys defending the riced out civic over you.

[Mettler]

Riced out civics are ****.

Tailgating is ****.

Slow drivers in big vehicles in my ****in way are ****.

Conclusion, everything about this incident is ****, including this thread.

[n.r.wyatt]

Wow

Regardless of what lane someone is in there are laws against tailgating. I do agree with that the best way to handle it is to move over. If moving over is not possible then you do something of what he did.

You should maintain the speed limit or tap breaks twice just enough to allow the tail lights to come on. I tap my breaks on anyone if they are too close. Semis, buses, I have even tapped on a cop. Tailgating is considered reckless driving and it is a more severe crime then riding in the left lane.

Oh and the reason traffic is terrible in socal is because it is overpopulated not because people drive slowly in the fast lane.

[240Knightrider]

I'm actually normally a courteous driver 90% of the time. If the Honda'd not have come up behind me and not gotten about 6 inches off my tail, 99% chance I would've gotten over for him. I save my aggressive driving tactics for people who'd rather do something like tail gate then be patient.

In the enterance of town, there's a light for literally every single intersection. Turn is only 3 turns in.

Thus being the reason you need to pay attention to what is behind you. Had you, you would have seen the honda coming up at a faster rate than you. You could have gotten over, let him pass and nicely gotten back in the left lane....so you could turn.

I do it all the time..and I drive fast.

Ive had 5 vehicles because of people like you that cause accidents because you have a pointless point, to prove. and non were my fault.

[Sentientbydesign]

YOU ALL SERIOUSLY NEED TO GET A CLUE!!!

In CA, we don't do the whole "Left lane is for passing only". We have over 36 MILLION people here. There isn't room to cruise in the right lane while others pass in the left. So quit with the suggestions!

This is from the CA DMV website:

22400. (a) No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, unless the reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or in compliance with law.

No person shall bring a vehicle to a complete stop upon a highway so as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic unless the stop is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.

We all must remember that the Civic made the first wrong move in Tailgating

Following Too Closely

21703. The driver of a motor vehicle shall not follow another vehicle more closely than is reasonable and prudent, having due regard for the speed of such vehicle and the traffic upon, and the condition of, the roadway.

It's sad that the whole incident happened, but I think it's pathetic that everyone is calling out the OP for this. I've held A$$hats hostage on the FWY when they begin endangering traffic. When I can, I have somebody call CHP while the d!ck stays behind me.

[Beancooker]

Bro, you are the one who needs to clue in here.

I have driven in some of the crappiest traffic in LA, on the 101, 405 and the 110. Just as well similar crappy freeways in Dallas 635, 35E, 30, etc...

I never had a problem with moving over when someone was going faster than I was, and I could always get back over.

The best part about Dallas, if you impede the flow of traffic, (no matter the speed limit) you will be ticketed. The Texas State Troopers and Dallas Police are very strict and at the ready to ticket you for that. Example, before the 635 turns into a parking lot, the left lane usually flows at about 85-90 MPH. The speed limit is 60, and if you are travelling at say, 70, but traffic is doing 85, you will be the one cited for impeding traffic.

Simple, if the guy behind you has the room to go 10+ the speed limit, and you have stated that he could have passed you on the right side, then you need to GTFO of the way.

[DrifterXRPS13]

this thread is full of win and fail...fail on op and win on gregory, oh how you make me chuckle sometimes...i heart you, in a strictly non homosexual kind of way, unless your cool, no no no, i'm just kidding..unless...lol

[n.r.wyatt]

The best part about Dallas, if you impede the flow of traffic, (no matter the speed limit) you will be ticketed. The Texas State Troopers and Dallas Police are very strict and at the ready to ticket you for that. Example, before the 635 turns into a parking lot, the left lane usually flows at about 85-90 MPH. The speed limit is 60, and if you are travelling at say, 70, but traffic is doing 85, you will be the one cited for impeding traffic.

Simple, if the guy behind you has the room to go 10+ the speed limit, and you have stated that he could have passed you on the right side, then you need to GTFO of the way.

Sorry, but that's hard to believe that a state trooper will enforce speed limits above reckless driving, which is usually +15 for most states. If you get pulled over for doing the speed limit they have no right to ticket you. I've seen 4 troopers pull over a whole train of cars at once. Not that they would do it in dallas, but if you get pulled over doing the speed limit they cant ticket you. Unless you are going 15 below the speed limit then it can be called impeding traffic.

[Beancooker]

Two things, Reckless driving in Texas (in regards to speeding) as it was defined to me when I was ticketed for 95 in a 60 was "double the speed limit, or 100MPH, whichever comes first".

Other thing is you're missing the point of the law, key word is "Impeding".

"Impeding" as defined by Encarta; hinder: to interfere with the movement, progress, or development of something or somebody

I'm sure it is hard for some people to believe. I lived there for 6 years. It happens, and more often than one would think.

They started enforcing the law, because as unsafe as it is to have many cars speeding, it's better to keep them in one lane, and not swerving in and out of traffic, trying to pass.

[APEXi240]

YOU ALL SERIOUSLY NEED TO GET A CLUE!!!

In CA, we don't do the whole "Left lane is for passing only". We have over 36 MILLION people here. There isn't room to cruise in the right lane while others pass in the left. So quit with the suggestions!

What you "don't do" and what is the law are two different things. My state is more densely populated than yours, but the left lane being only for passing is still the law, whether it is obeyed by the general public or not.

[IanS]

For the record, I'm an experienced driver who always lets people pass in the fast lane. As a result, I haven't caused an accident.

Besides, if you pull over and let the idiot pass you, then he'll see you flip him off in his mirror and you can have the satisfaction of seeing him get pulled over up the road. Revenge is best served cold.

Believe me, if I want to start a flame war, I'll pick a more challenging opponent. Your original post did all the work for me.

Good luck and safe driving!

Im with you man.

To the OP, GTFO of the way if someone wants to go faster, its not your job to be the highway police. Just because you are grumpy doesn't mean you should purposely piss of others to make yourself feel better. That makes you a bully and a prick, try growing up a little.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Now let me point out the slow lane is pretty much open and he can pass me on the right any time he wants.

NO!

Dammit, that's not how it works. I HATE drivers who think like that.I don't care about ANY of the conditions of what was going on, how viable the left lane is for passing only, or any of that crap.

It's very simple:If someone wants to go faster than you, and you are in the left lane, YOU HAVE TO MOVE. Get the hell out of the way and stop impeding the smooth flow of traffic. YOU are the reason traffic sucks.

Tailgaters are undoubtedly morons. But if you'd stop to ask WHY they're tailgating, you might end up part of the solution rather than THE source of the problem. It is not your job to regulate other drivers on the road. It is your responsibility as a driver on a public road to try and promote the smooth flow of traffic and make things easier for everyone.

You screwed up TWO peoples' days because you were too stubborn to move over one lane and use the road the way you're supposed to? And you think it's FUNNY?

[IanS]

Sorry, but that's hard to believe that a state trooper will enforce speed limits above reckless driving, which is usually +15 for most states. If you get pulled over for doing the speed limit they have no right to ticket you. I've seen 4 troopers pull over a whole train of cars at once. Not that they would do it in dallas, but if you get pulled over doing the speed limit they cant ticket you. Unless you are going 15 below the speed limit then it can be called impeding traffic.

Im with Noah on this one. Its the same way in MI and WI. If the state police, or highway patrol see you causing any sort of backup in the left lane, they WILL pull you over, Ive seen it happen many times. MN on the other hand is more like CA, and guess what, traffic SUCKs here, we are actually listed right behind LA as the worst traffic areas. The OP was in the wrong, pure and simple.

[krimsonviper]

NO!

Dammit, that's not how it works. I HATE drivers who think like that.I don't care about ANY of the conditions of what was going on, how viable the left lane is for passing only, or any of that crap.

It's very simple:If someone wants to go faster than you, and you are in the left lane, YOU HAVE TO MOVE. Get the hell out of the way and stop impeding the smooth flow of traffic. YOU are the reason traffic sucks.

Tailgaters are undoubtedly morons. But if you'd stop to ask WHY they're tailgating, you might end up part of the solution rather than THE source of the problem. It is not your job to regulate other drivers on the road. It is your responsibility as a driver on a public road to try and promote the smooth flow of traffic and make things easier for everyone.

You screwed up TWO peoples' days because you were too stubborn to move over one lane and use the road the way you're supposed to? And you think it's FUNNY?

agree'd. the OP is the type of jacka$$ that ruins my commute when i actually decide to head out the san francisco.

drive right, pass left. stay in my way when you have an oppurtune moment to go right and you'll be introduced to a handful of my abraham lincolns.

[gwoods]

riced out civic is redundant?

in Arizona you may have been shot at....

that being said, I think we have all been d!ck in traffic before. I blocked a M3 a few months ago because he honked at me for letting someone else make a left out of a shopping center and I enjoyed it!... I think Sentientbydesign might remember that post .

best policy if someone tail gates you is to let them pass!

[IanS]

IB4TL

[full house]

wonderful story!!! I wanna know what happened the following day. . .

[SCCoupe]

FREE POST

[NismoDriver240]

Again, I had a LEFT turn coming up within the next few lights.

and you expected him to pass you, what if he had that same, oh so important turn to make as well.

YOU ALL SERIOUSLY NEED TO GET A CLUE!!!

This is from the CA DMV website:

22400. (a) No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, unless the reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or in compliance with law.

We all must remember that the Civic made the first wrong move in Tailgating

Following Too Closely

21703. The driver of a motor vehicle shall not follow another vehicle more closely than is reasonable and prudent, having due regard for the speed of such vehicle and the traffic upon, and the condition of, the roadway.

which came first, the chicken or the egg?

if he wasnt going slow(er) than the flow of traffic (the honda) then the traffic wouldnt be following to closely.

what if his wife was giving birth? gtfo of the way.

Sorry, but that's hard to believe that a state trooper will enforce speed limits above reckless driving, which is usually +15 for most states. If you get pulled over for doing the speed limit they have no right to ticket you. I've seen 4 troopers pull over a whole train of cars at once. Not that they would do it in dallas, but if you get pulled over doing the speed limit they cant ticket you. Unless you are going 15 below the speed limit then it can be called impeding traffic.

I saw 2 states coming up on me hot and i was travelling in the left lane. the middle lane didnt have a spot open for like at least 6 car lengths. Im not about to hold up 2 staties so I say fck it and match their speed til I hit an opening. Their speed happening to be 90mph.

OP blocked the flow of traffic, just like he would have if he were to be going 15 under the speed limit. It's not speeding thats as reckless as blocking traffic.

I have had a cop ride Q45s *** for 5-6 miles while i was doing 65 in the slow lane and when i moved one lane over to the left to let him go, he didn't go but backed off a bit so i go back to the slow lane again doing 65 and he pulled me over and his reason was that i made an unnecessary lane change without signaling properly... I mean wtffff i let my signals blink five times before i made both lane changes. It was a $150 ticket which i lost the case in court.

mhm, i bet. pics of ticket or it didnt happen.

Congratulations you have a bunch of 240 guys defending the riced out civic over you.

owned.

OP, you're a ****ing idiot, plain and simple.

IB4TL

[bmike818]

You don't get kudos for creating an accident. This post makes it seem that you are bragging.

You could have saved two familes from drama by just being a bigger man and letting the Civic pass. I hope you get stuck driving a Civic for the rest of your life as punishment.

[AZhitman]

To those of you who think it's appropriate to "brake check" someone who's tailgating, remember this:

When I drove a state-issue unmarked Crown Vic, a lot of people thought it was a civilian vehicle. While I didn't have any authority over traffic matters, that car you're brake-checking COULD very well be an unmarked or undercover car en route to an emergency or conducting surveillance.

There's NO excuse for this behavior. Period.

I think we've established that the OP is a clueless wannabe.

I recommend a job in mall security - all badge, no balls.

[DevilMB3017]

YOU ALL SERIOUSLY NEED TO GET A CLUE!!!

In CA, we don't do the whole "Left lane is for passing only". We have over 36 MILLION people here. There isn't room to cruise in the right lane while others pass in the left. So quit with the suggestions!

I've been in CA. I've also driven in NYC, and I live in NJ. NJ is the MOST populated state by square miles. Simple deduction tells me that we probably have the most cars per milage too. The OP also said the right lane was open for the Civic to pass. That means the OP should have been in the right lane. Passing on the right is also illegal.

It's sad that the whole incident happened, but I think it's pathetic that everyone is calling out the OP for this. I've held A$$hats hostage on the FWY when they begin endangering traffic. When I can, I have somebody call CHP while the d!ck stays behind me.

You know what's sad about this incident? That the OP felt the need to brag/report to the internet. That's what we are really ripping apart here. It's one thing to do this - it's another to show the level of pride and commitment to being an unofficial enforcer of traffic.

[IanS]

You know what's sad about this incident? That the OP felt the need to brag/report to the internet. That's what we are really ripping apart here. It's one thing to do this - it's another to show the level of pride and commitment to being an unofficial enforcer of traffic.

+1

This guy was proud of being a D-bag.

[ADDirishboy]

I hope you get stuck driving a Civic for the rest of your life as punishment.

That's a little harsh, don't you think?

in Arizona you may have been shot at....

Depending where your at. In Tucson, Tolleson, and downtown Phoenix that's a very real possibility. And it's definently a possibility here in Scottsdale to! I know it sounds stupid, But some faggy *** HS kids are now starting what they like to call "gangs". But honestly, you can't call yourself a "gangster" if you use the money mommy and daddy gave you to buy a gun. douche nozzles.

[Sentientbydesign]

I've been searching for something to contradict my statement regarding CA and the left lane is only for passing and I cannot find ANYTHING in the CVC that states that.

Here are a few things to consider. I've lived in SoCal my whole life. Those of us who live here, have to deal with the situation ALL OF THE TIME, not just on vacations or pass-throughs.

Judging based on isolated experiences is as dumb as buying a Hyundai Accent and making it VIP.

I personally don't consider 1 vehicle to constitute traffic. I normally drive 15-20 above the speed limit on the FWY. I have no problem moving around people when they are going a reasonable speed, but not as fast as I'd like to.

IFF <If and only if, there exists a vehicle in the left lane who is going below the speed limit AND slower than traffic on the right, will I ever "make them aware" that I am behind them (and usually 5-20 other cars behind me).

That is impeding the flow of traffic. Me stopping the little d!ck driving the VW courtesy van in excess of 95 on the FWY when everybody else is doing 80 is just fun. I called his boss and made sure the manager knew how his employee was representing the company. I also asked that he not be fired, but just talked to.

I'd say about 60%-70% of the time, when I block a dangerous driver, they slow down and flow with traffic. Please don't judge what you don't understand.

EDIT:

36 Million was the estimate for 2006. I highly doubt it has an accurate assessment of the millions of undocumented Mexican who drive around too.

[WDRacing]

I've been searching for something to contradict my statement regarding CA and the left lane is only for passing and I cannot find ANYTHING in the CVC that states that.

Here are a few things to consider. I've lived in SoCal my whole life. Those of us who live here, have to deal with the situation ALL OF THE TIME, not just on vacations or pass-throughs.

Judging based on isolated experiences is as dumb as buying a Hyundai Accent and making it VIP.

I personally don't consider 1 vehicle to constitute traffic. I normally drive 15-20 above the speed limit on the FWY. I have no problem moving around people when they are going a reasonable speed, but not as fast as I'd like to.

IFF <If and only if, there exists a vehicle in the left lane who is going below the speed limit AND slower than traffic on the right, will I ever "make them aware" that I am behind them (and usually 5-20 other cars behind me).

That is impeding the flow of traffic. Me stopping the little d!ck driving the VW courtesy van in excess of 95 on the FWY when everybody else is doing 80 is just fun. I called his boss and made sure the manager knew how his employee was representing the company. I also asked that he not be fired, but just talked to.

I'd say about 60%-70% of the time, when I block a dangerous driver, they slow down and flow with traffic. Please don't judge what you don't understand.

EDIT:

36 Million was the estimate for 2006. I highly doubt it has an accurate assessment of the millions of undocumented Mexican who drive around too.

Yet you're going to judge us and our opinions? BS...

If you're in the left lane and you have traffic approaching you from the rear IT IS drivers ettiquette to move over...PERIOD. I'm not saying tailgating is ok, I'm not saying brake checking is OK when you get tailgated...

But MOVE OVER when you are approached by faster traffic.

And STFU about how you block a dangerous driver...how the hell do you know who's dangerous? How old are you? How are you a professional driver? What authority do you presume to have over others? It doesn't matter where you live or how long you've lived there. I can find bad drivers in every state that have lived the same place there entire life...living somewhere IS NOT a qualification.

You're posts are hypocritical, you claim to be a good driver and that you can judge for others when to BLOCK traffic, when you clearly can't grasp the concept of slower traffic keep right. Not understanding common driving principles totally eliminates you as an example to follow.

Don't pass judgement on others while you presume to hold the gavel yourself Nate...life doesn't work that way.

[Encryptshun]

A TITAN VERSUS A TITAN!

[Sentientbydesign]

I think you misinterpretted what I said.

My point was not to judge regarding how we drive her unless you actually understand and have dealt with it for as long as some of us have.

A perfect example: My uncle came here once for a photography convention in OC. He ran into some traffic and thinks that all of CA's HWYs are that way. 1 or 2 experiences out here aren't enough to know what we deal with. Am I saying we have the worst traffic in the nation? No, but it's constant. Right now, there are 4 road construction projects between my house and the FWY (About 2 miles). Efforts to go around that on-ramp are met with what??? More construction on other on-ramps.

As for my judgement of dangerous drivers on the road. Driving a VW mini-van at 95-100 on a relatively dense FWY, cutting people off and making them swerve, jamming on your brakes because you couldn't accelerate fast enough to cut through "holes" in traffic...That doesn't take a genius or a trained driver to recognize.

In the past year, I've probably called CHP once a month for reckless, drunk, and sleeping drivers.

[IanS]

I think you misinterpretted what I said.

Id say he interpreted it perfectly, and I wholeheartedly agree with him. You think you are above the law in some situations, yet you throw a flag when you see others doing the same thing. You are a hypocrite, and a poor driver.

[NismoDriver240]

My point was not to judge regarding how we drive here unless you actually understand and have dealt with it for as long as some of us have.

In the past year, I've probably called CHP once a month for reckless, drunk, and sleeping drivers.

wa you deal with bad drivers oh so much you MUST brake-check tailgaters!!!!one1 You just do not understand. OP was blocking the traffic. At this point, it wasnt just the civic behind him close, clearly it was the cadillac to. and if your state is so dense I'm SURE there were more cars back. OP "didn't give a s*** what was going on behind" him anyways, so whos to say there was only 1 car behind him.

WOW, so a cop pulls me over cuz he got a call for me being a reckless driver... prove it! Drunk and sleeping, ok, you can take a call for that but then you have to find the car in the densly populated state of CA. You honestly seem to think you're doing a good deed calling in and blocking traffic (occasionally) and just, all around, being the cop's btch, LOWER thana rent-a-cop