Obama overturns stem cell research stance

[WDRacing]

Hey, call me biased, but I would rather have the money spent on Embryonic Stem Cell Research and on Safe Sex Condom Programs be poured in to the FFEL (Federal Family Education Loan) program to subsidized student loans for kids to go to school. Obama has already said he is cutting this program.bud

It's called the GI bill homie. Do something to earn your education. Any Guard or weekend warrior can have fre school and they can now share the GI bill with their families.

[Cold_Zero]

The answer is simple...why not?

I answered your question; you just felt it necessary to leave it out.

It's called the GI bill homie. Do something to earn your education. Any Guard or weekend warrior can have fre school and they can now share the GI bill with their families.

Another program that we can cut in order to save money and reallocate the savings to pay off the national debt. Why do we need to educate soldiers? They get paid for their time in the service right? They can pay for their own education like the rest of the America population.

[WDRacing]

I answered your question; you just felt it necessary to leave it out.

Another program that we can cut in order to save money and reallocate the savings to pay off the national debt. Why do we need to educate soldiers? They get paid for their time in the service right? They can pay for their own education like the rest of the America population.

Sorry you feel that way dude. I think soldiers earn their education...but thanks for making it clear where you stand on that and everything else.

[Cold_Zero]

The irony with my comment is that I went to college tuition free because of my father's veteran disability.

[WDRacing]

And I never used mine...

[datsun2401972]

Maybe this sounds silly, it is my moral opinion after all. But the sound of people getting hyped up about dead baby cells is disturbing to me.

I'm just waiting for the evil greedy guy to say, "If they'll pay, I'll MAKE some dead babies...cells." And if that seems near impossible, just look at the abortion blackmarket. Which seems to be supported by the legal market when underage girls come in with pregnancies that would be considered rape(even though they are willing) when reported. God only knows how those actions have effected America's sex culture.

I'm not very educated about stem cells, but if adult cells are working in ways the "dead baby cells"(sounds like a conservative catch phrase), why the hell are we using dead baby cells? Maybe to give more reason to have abortion clinics? Sounds like the pockets of the medical industry still aren't stuffed enough.

/end medical industry conspiracy theory...

[480sx]

I think soldiers earn their education...

God damn right they do. Not enough of them take advantage of this because of real life situations they are thrown back into when they get back home. Its sad really.

[audtatious]

Hey Telco!!!!!

Looks like your man flip-flopped on ya.....

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/...44943

[Cold_Zero]

I am seriously confused, by that article. Please someone correct me if I am wrong. I am trying to understand how this all lies out.

1. You had stem cells that were taken from human embryos before the d!ck-Wicker amendment was passed in 1996.2. The d!ck-Wicker Amendment is passed in 1996 which does not allow Federal Funding of Research to be conducted on stems cells taken that involves the destruction of human embryos. So you have pre 1996 stems cells and post 1996 stem cells.3. Bush signs his executive order in 2001 prohibiting federal funding on the pre 1996 stem cells and the d!ck-Wicker Amendment still prohibits it on post 1996 stem cells?4. Obama signs his executive order in 2009 allowing federal funding on the pre 1996 stem cells and the d!ck-Wicker Amendment still prohibits it on post 1996 stem cells?

[WDRacing]

Seems chaotic enough to be right...

[telcoman]

Hey Telco!!!!!

Looks like your man flip-flopped on ya.....

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/...44943

Hey Matt

Calm down Never heard of your source. Is that some right wing site that O'Reilly reads?

Here is a better source for more accurate information

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03...=1&hp

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“d!ck-Wicker is 13 years old now, and I think we need to review these policies,” Ms. DeGette said. “I’ve already talked to several pro-life Democrats about d!ck-Wicker, and they seemed open to the concept of reversing the policy if we could show that it was necessary to foster this research.”

A senior House Democratic leadership aide, who was not authorized to speak publicly about the issue, said overturning the ban “would be difficult, but not impossible,” adding, “It’s not something that we would do right away, but it’s something that we would look at.”

Fertility researchers also believe the climate is ripe to allow federal money for their work, especially in light of the recent controversy over the birth of octuplets in California, said Sean Tipton, a spokesman for the American Society for Reproductive Medicine."----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Many Republicans it seems are moving left. Very necessary if they expect reelection or to be taken seriously by the majority.

Perhaps you should too?

Telcoman

[audtatious]

Move left? I'm pretty moderate as it is and if it means having your viewpoints on things I'd rather be dead.

Is the NYTimes and dailykos the only valid websites for news? If that's the case then the politics forum is worthless and I will simply go into Admin and remove it. I can run into people like you every day if I wanted to discuss these issues, although once I start digging into their viewpoints they always seem to get butt hurt, start screaming and storm away. You and people like you can only seem to believe one viewpoint and one viewpoint only. Once called to the table, you yourself never respond back to threads where facts are presented that show you wrong. Why, your relatives probably thought the earth was flat and put to death those who came out with the truth instead of being willing to see another viewpoint. Maybe you will get lucky and such harsh repercussions will start to happen again to quiet the dissenters.

Regardless of anything, what you posted shows a possible future direction to make you feel better about your Super President getting accolades for overturning something that is simply put back in play elsewhere without media scrutiny. The fact is that d!ck-Wicker has NOT been overturned and you fail once again.

[telcoman]

Move left? I'm pretty moderate as it is..

Compared to whom?

[audtatious]

I'm sure you think you are a moderate, right?

[telcoman]

I'm sure you think you are a moderate, right?

Matt

Aren't I?

I think you are part of a declining minority in KY?

http://www.daytondailynews.com...rnout/

The Republican party is perceived my many to be the party of no.

Almost everything they stand for has been rejected by the voters in the last election.The small government and fiscal responsibility preached by the GOP was a huge failure during the eight years of the Bush presidency. Whether it is abortion, stem cells, sex education in public schools, and opposition to national healthcare, the majority of Americans spoke up at the ballot last November soundly rejecting the GOP platform.There are some here that still don't get it and I think you are one of them. I hope I'm wrong?

Telcoman

[audtatious]

You mean the decline of media reporting skills since Dayton and Columbus Ohio are huge libby-lands? My CONSERVATIVE values are just fine.

The small government and fiscal responsibility preached by the GOP was a huge failure during the eight years of the Bush presidency.

They are not conservatives. Never were. So, now we are behind your party that in a number of months has thrown out more deficit spending than there has ever been. The dem party is the party of "spend until it fails and then double down"

You really are a f***ing idiot, aren't you?

[DJ Raijin]

You gave me a great idea Howie. If they want to cut down on kids accidently shooting others with firearms, why not give the children free guns and teach them how to use it? We can teach them to be safe operators of firearms and not to point them at others or put their fingers on the triggers. It would be great! Think of all the accidental shootings we could prevent with this new program.

I always thought that elementary schools should have firearm safety courses. They should teach them like my dad did for me. He showed me how a watermelon is relatively the same consistency as a human head, stapled a picture of someone's face to it and made me shoot it with a high powered rifle. It put the power of a firearm into perspective for me real quick.

But I digress:

Federal funding for things such as Stem Cell Research is a great step forward for medicine and health care in my opinion. This can lead to such an advancement in overall health of the nation. Handicapped people will be able to walk again, maybe even lead to a better treatment for cancer other than nuking someone with radiation to postpone the inevitable. Hell maybe even a cure.

This is a great way to turn irresponsibility or victimization into something positive. Who says you can't make lemonade when life gives ya lemons

[audtatious]

Paying those on welfare for abortions would help both the poor and replenishing the supply of embryonic matter. Thus, instead of welfare people having 14 kids they can be paid for 14 abortions......maybe more if they keep at it long enough.

[OriginalWheelman]

Not even the Stem Cell researches think the lift o the funding ban will do anything for them. I wonder where the public got this idea that it would...

SAN FRANCISCO (Private Equity Week) - Cambridge, Mass.-based Stemgent Inc. raised a $14 million Series A round this month, just as President Barack Obama has reversed the federal government's restrictions on embryonic stem cell funding.

Stemgent plans to use the money to build up a business selling supplies to stem cell researchers.

Stemgent CEO Ian Ratcliffe says he's "cautiously optimistic" that the Obama administration's policy directive will boost research budgets.

However, it's unclear when federal funding will make its way to labs, he says, noting: "There was no accompanying, ‘Oh, by the way, we're putting $1 billion or $5 billion into stem cell research.'"

Stem cell sector-focused startups aren't waiting for government funding to ramp up. In Stemgent's case, Ratcliffe says, the strategy is to roll out a range of products used in labs, in hopes that they may become standard supplies for the industry. Products listed on the company's website include antibodies (mouse and human), cell lines, and small molecules used by researchers to track cell behavior.

The ban didn't stop them from raising money either.

Redwood City, Calif.-based OncoMed Pharmaceuticals, a developer of treatments to destroy cancer stem cells, raised $46 million late last year, bringing its total funding to date to more than $170 million. Backers of the Redwood City, Calif.-based company include Morgenthaler, De Novo Ventures, Bay Partners, Adams Street Partners, U.S. Venture Partners, The Vertical Group, Latterell Venture Partners and GSK Ventures.

Also late last year, Madison, Wisc.-based Cellular Dynamics International, a developer of stem cell technologies for drug development and personalized medicines, raised $18 million in a round led by Tactics II Stem Cell Ventures with participation from the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation.

[telcoman]

My CONSERVATIVE values are just fine.

If you believe that!

You really are a f***ing idiot, aren't you?

Generally those that have to resort to name calling are suffering from major inadequacies?

Thank you for letting everyone know of yours.

[marlin29311]

Generally those that have to resort to name calling are suffering from major inadequacies?

Thank you for letting everyone know of yours.

It's not name calling when it's true...

[datsun2401972]

I'm just waiting for the evil greedy guy to say, "If they'll pay, I'll MAKE some dead babies...cells." And if that seems near impossible, just look at the abortion blackmarket. Which seems to be supported by the legal market when underage girls come in with pregnancies that would be considered rape(even though they are willing) when reported. God only knows how those actions have effected America's sex culture.

Paying those on welfare for abortions would help both the poor and replenishing the supply of embryonic matter. Thus, instead of welfare people having 14 kids they can be paid for 14 abortions......maybe more if they keep at it long enough.

People on welfare/evil greedy guy...pretty damn close anyways.