Not a very warm welcome from Club Si.

[Mr1der]

yeah, but do your doors sag?

I think that's the only way to settle this....

saggy doors.

[nismofly]

1der does your thunderchicken have saggy doors?

[Altiman94]

Most big two door cars do eventually.

[Mr1der]

yeah...

big heavy saggy doors.

like enormous natural breasts.

[andrave]

my M30's doors sagged like holy batman. I win?

[Blaise]

Well I guess you could blame the majority of the now 16 pages on mostly me. I was trying to point out that the Q45 while not a drag machine by any means is an impressive street vehicle. Considering its size and weight it can run with the big boys STOCK FOR STOCK. Some guys started saying "My C5 will smoke that thing." "Or a turbo charged neon will smoke me." I mean the neon upon release had a 0 - 60 time second only to the viper on the dodge line. What kind of a comparison is that.

Yeah, see you're wrong. It's not an impressive street vehicle. I drive one of the ****tiest cars you can think of - a base model '96 neon sedan with a 132hp sohc motor - and I will bet you $100 and it will outperform your landbarge in any contest of speed. I don't care if it's from a stop, from a roll, ****ing backwards, you're wrong and you should accept it.



I'm 3 hours away from you and I'm done with finals in 3 days. Now what are you going to do? Lemme guess, shut up and act like nothing happened.

Good.

[Jesda]

All NICO members with a membership to ClubSi should be dragged into the street and beaten for the garbage they brought back with them.

1996 Dodge Neon Highline 0-60: 9.1s 1/4 mi: 16.8s1990 Infiniti Q45 0-60: 6.9s 1/4 mi: 15.4s

I'd wager that Pito's Q probably isnt anywhere near that quick, with bad injectors, a dirty plenum, and old hoses.
Modified by Jesda at 3:59 AM 12/13/2004

[Blaise]

All NICO members with a membership to ClubSi should be dragged into the street and beaten for the garbage they brought back with them.

1996 Dodge Neon Highline 0-60: 9.1s 1/4 mi: 16.8s1990 Infiniti Q45 0-60: 6.9s 1/4 mi: 15.4s

I'd wager that Pito's Q probably isnt anywhere near that quick, with bad injectors, a dirty plenum, and old hoses.

Modified by Jesda at 3:59 AM 12/13/2004

Have you spent one too many nights 'racing' down Lindberg? You're wrong, and so is your friend. Let him lose $100 to show it.

Or do you want me to stop by in Creve Coeur and show you myself how utterly wrong you are?

[Jesda]

http://q45.spilky.com/q45vsls400/scan0007.jpg

LOL!! Its not my money, and hes not my friend! Best of luck to you, son. If thats what it takes to make yourself feel masculine, go for it!

[Jesda]

Quote »You should be dragged right down f-ing Olive Blvd and beaten to death by the STLSR crew. You're wrong, and so is your friend. Let him lose $100 to show it.

Are you still in highschool by chance? [/quote]LOL! Sorry you cant handle published data.

Street racing is for fools. Take it to the track and spare the lives of others.

Youre here at 4am on an Internet forum making physical threats at some college student you've never met. I hope your parole officer doesnt read this.

[Blaise]

LOL! Sorry you cant handle published data.

Street racing is for morons. Take it to the track and spare the lives of others.

Youre here at 4am on an Internet forum making physical threats at some college student you've never met. I hope your parole officer doesnt read this.

I don't street race. Ever been to Gateway International Speedway?

I'm not making physical threats, I'm telling this moron that he's scum and should end his life as soon as possible. Suggesting suicide isn't a crime, right?

Your published data sucks, and that car is a steaming pile of sh1t. Unforunately, internet smacktalkers never show up to back they typed words in real life.

[Jesda]

Gateway International is pretty cool.

But this is between you and him. You guys can settle it at the track.

As far as published data, you can see the same consistent info in Road and Track, Car and Driver, and Automobile Magazine. In other words, the actual information and performance of the vehicle as-engineered is strongly on his side, but the condition of his vehicle is not. He has bad injectors!! This is where you may have a good advantage.

I almost hope he loses, for trolling.

I know the strengths, limitations, and performance characteristics of my car. I'm not sure what running around screaming and hollering about it like an emotionally-starved child will accomplish. I bought it for transportation and to please myself, not to impress others. There's cheaper ways to attain self-esteem.

[Blaise]

Gateway International is pretty cool.

But this is between you and him. You guys can settle it at the track.

As far as published data, you can see the same consistent info in Road and Track, Car and Driver, and Automobile Magazine. In other words, the actual information and performance of the vehicle as-designed is strongly on his side, but the condition of his vehicle is not. This is where you may have a good advantage.

I almost hope he loses, for trolling.

I know the strengths, limitations, and performance characteristics of my car. I'm not sure what running around screaming and hollering about it will accomplish.

Ok, I'm going to be nice about this.

Published data means ****. First of all, you assumed that my car has a 3spd automatic transmission. Whoops. Second, you did not factor in the driver. Third, you forget that 'published results' are often done with a 5th wheel & computer and not at a dragstrip. Fourth, you assumed that I was stock.

If everbody ran the same times as published data (lol) then racing wouldn't be racing, it would be math, and incredibly boring.

[Jesda]

I didnt make any assumptions. I found the only bit of data I could find. I had to fill in the blanks due to a lack of information provided by you.

Second, this is between you and him. Please, oh please, keep it off NICO.

Third, the argument that was quoted between you and him was "stock for stock". Obviously modifications change everything. Wes's Q45 for example, with (now removed) mods, was able to run 12.6 in the 1/4. (Nitrous was a big factor).

Modifications change everything when it comes to the estimation of vehicle performance.

And if youre ever in St Louis when its warm, you should swing by. Would love to check out your Neon.

Have a good one.

[Jesda]

If everbody ran the same times as published data (lol) then racing wouldn't be racing, it would be math, and incredibly boring.

Well yes thats true, and keeping everything stock is my preference for longetivity, comfort, and efficiency. In case you havent noticed, I'm not much into the racing scene. I'm also nearing 200k on the Q.

With family and friends on both coasts (and my hatred of flying) I do a lot of long-distance cross-country driving. A quiet cruiser with long legs and a big comfy captain's chair is mostly what I look for in any vehicle I purchase. Before buying the Q, I cross-shopped with the Lexus LS400 and Cadillac Seville. Used to own a Benz.

[pito11213]

Well Jesda's comments have pretty much sealed my interpretation of alot of people on this forum. That quote of 22,000 strong is so overrated. Even with bad injectors my car still pulls hard. I dont feel the effects until I am at idle. Jesda I dont think you know much about any kind of racing anyway.

To call me a troll is ridiculous. I posted on Si and said I have a Q45 and then they started to say that the Q was the worse car nissan ever made and all kinds of stuff.

You wanna cry about keep it off NICO!!! Come on please!! It was an exchange of arguements that led to me posting nothing but data on there to prove my point. Then they would post little kid stuff.

How about you just dont post a reply to this particular thread if you think the way you do.

And the dude with the neon. What a joke. Put up the extra money and get a98 acr/rt.

[Jesda]

Whatever ridiculous exchange began over there there, ended up moving here; -that- was the problem. You said you went over there to start something... I call it trolling, even if they may be woefully ill-informed. I dont know why you think you have to prove something to a bunch of dopey kids.

The whole ClubSi vs. NICO thing is such a waste -- not of my time, but of yours.

[PoorManQ45]

Whatever ridiculous exchange began over there there, ended up moving here; -that- was the problem. You said you went over there to start something... I call it trolling, even if they may be woefully ill-informed.

That's not trolling.

Trolling is when you put your lure in the water a propel the boat forward, or backwards, by means of a motor, engine, or rowing .

Keep on trolling

A quiet cruiser with long legs and a big comfy captain's chair is mostly what I look for in any vehicle I purchase.

You mean, the vehicle that your parents help you purchase .

[Altiman94]

If anyone was trolling, it was pito. I came over there to just read and posted a thread abou tmyself. He came in liek a retard with a puffed up chest. You're in the wrong pito, admit it. You were askign for them to do that.

[gniknave]

I thought I'd never see the day a Neon was compared to a Q45. Anyway, I'm not entering this arguement. I think this whole Club Si thing is crap anyway and the ones that are stirring up trouble over there (I know- it's not you Altiman) are just stooping to their level. Kinda sucks that it's on NICO now.

[AZhitman]

You guys wanna hang out at Club Si, be my guest.

But DO NOT represent yourself poorly over there and then claim NICO as your home.

Not cool.

Let's have this be the last time that happens, that's just not our style.

p.s. Wish I was in the midwest, I'd love to take that Budget Rent-a-Car owner's $100.