Nissans fastest car?

[Movingviolation240]

I cant believe you guys havent heard much about the lingen felter. I read the specs in car and magazine, this car is stock (because that's what it was made to put out, not modified after production). The specs were the most outstanding Ive ever seen, with 0-60 in 2.3 seconds, no bull. I wouldnt even consider comparing any other street car with this vette. No Nissan could stand up to this car without major modifications amounting way over the lingen felter's price.

It's one word, LINGENFELTER, as in John Lingenfelter the owner. I lived a mile down Winchester Rd. from his shop for a few years, even managed to street race him in a ZR-1 from a light in downtown Decatur. Needless to say it wasn't even pretty and he wasn't even trying.

But anyhow, the Vette is bad and I don't think a 100,000 skyline could take his 100,000 C5 but that's just my humble opinion. It's hard to argue with over 600hp with less than 1 bar of boost.

PaulOrlando, FL

[Megaseth]

I forget the name of it, but it was a W16 engine, not a V16.

On another side note, anybody seen stuff on the new Maybach? Twin turbo V-12 luxury car. MMMMmmmmm.

W16? eh, all i know is that it has 16 cylinders, lots of HP, and is fast as hell.and the maybach, that is the ultimate pimp car. That thing has it all, power and luxury. and they're only like $350k. not bad, but i guess i'll only get 1:)

[Megaseth]

Oh, and the maybach is hand built to how you want it. its the Whopper of Luxury cars.

[Onizuka]

W16 eh? lets see.... 5 and 1/3 pistons per row of pistons? or how would you twin turbo it? Where would you route the exaust from the top row of pistons? I wanna see a picture of this engine, or a link to a web site that says this. The ergenomics of this kind of engine configuation is mind boggeling...

[EZcheese15]

W16 eh? lets see.... 5 and 1/3 pistons per row of pistons? or how would you twin turbo it? Where would you route the exaust from the top row of pistons? I wanna see a picture of this engine, or a link to a web site that says this. The ergenomics of this kind of engine configuation is mind boggeling...

http://www.auto-salon-singen.d...e.htm

It's 4 banks of 4.

[EZcheese15]

Here, even better....this link explains the layout of I, V, and W engines:

http://autozine.kyul.net/techn...g.htm

[EZcheese15]

Oh, and apparently, according to that last link, there is a Bugatti W18 engine. And that *is* a traditional 3 bank design, with 3 banks of 6.

[implict]

What should i tell him ???

Look He is sayn somthing else about GM......

guys listen , the stupid japs have one car to show for which is the loss in world war 2, the nissan skyline, ok yeah sure its an ok car (it should be for 1/10th of a million $) but thats it, all the while the superior americans have Corvettes, Camaros, Trans Ams, Saturns, and mustangs sometimes, but all these cars can easily hit low 14s stock, when it takes putting a turbo nitrous or a supercharger on the japs cars to get them into 14s, i mean **** a low 14 in a jap car is actually good...when the japs come out with more than just one good car come talk to me, but untill then all u imports might just wanna sell ur car and buy a GM or somthing..

Hes a SATURN OWNER!!!!

[Exar-Kun]

its a v-12.....according to that link..

as I understood the "w-12" it was two six cylinders placed next to each other, but sharing the same block somewhow... kinda like the ford prototype with two V-8's palced side by side..creating a kinf of w-16...

-chet"I am jacks spelling errors"

[Exar-Kun]

"the nissan skyline, ok yeah sure its an ok car (it should be for 1/10th of a million $) but thats it, all the while the superior americans have Corvettes, Camaros, Trans Ams, Saturns, and mustangs sometimes, but all these cars can easily hit low 14s stock, when it takes putting a turbo nitrous or a supercharger on the japs cars to get them into 14s"

skyline Gt-R in japan costs, about 45k.(the reason it costs more here, is because of bull**** goverment restrictions lobbied by the american car companies to make it very hard for some japanese and german cars to make it over here without serious modification)

heres a few examples for you, since you obviously want to get in a fight.

SUPRA MARK4: 0-60 in 4.8, standgin 1/4 in wait. whats that? 13.4 seconds. the vette in the years of the supra, twin turbo 300ZX and rx7 could ONLY DREAM about comming close to their performance for the money.

also, the lignefelter vettes are NOT stock, you cant walk into a chevy dealer and go "uh, yes I'd like a lignefelter incon twin turbo corvette" thusly, its NOT A PRODUCTION CAR. its a mde-to-spec car, that happens to be made with a corvetter chasis, enve the ****ING ENGINE BLOCK WAS CHANGED. how much more obvious is it that its not a production car?

anyways, like I said, if you wanna talk serious cars, go to japan, walk into HKS or veilside and ask for their skylines. each of them produce over 1100hp and are, thats right, street legal, on THE SAME BOTTOM END as the factory car, unlike the lingenfelter.Theres also many, many supras, on street tires that run 10 second 1/4 miles, without modifying the block, or chagine engines(as lingenfelter did) also, the skylines canr un seocnds 1/4 miles on street legal tires, and not "street legal slicks" as the LPE car did in motor trend.

now, if you'll please exit the building, because obviously comparisons are lost on you.

"thats it! theres nothing left to explain! its perfectly logical! only one thing left for you to do, bend over and kiss your *** goddbye"

[jrc90240sx]

I for one am getting tired of this played out battle of import vs. domestic. Being so narrow minded that you can’t even like another car is dumb. To a point some of your post about how dumb this person is, is warranted, but you are just arguing the same things back. The problem that we have is that people are uneducated about what there is out there. They get set in there ways, and wont open up to new and ever changing things around them.

It really comes down to this. Import, Domestic – they are all the same, they are a car. They do what they need to and both do it well. They both have there faults, and some faults are strengths and some strengths are there weakness.

At the end of the day if someone gave you the keys to a corvette, any model. You would be a complete dumb *** to say no.

Same goes for the skyline, any model. You would take the keys. If not there would have to be an outside force to change your mind.

Joe

[EZcheese15]

:Werd

[jrc90240sx]

Thinking upon this more, this import vs. domestic battle all boils down to pure prejudice, plan and simple, and it’s very sad.

[implict]

Is there only 1 lingenfelter or???? and what color is it casue i have a video stateing that its a lingenfelter vs a dsm..... and wahts sad is the dsm stood with it ..... If you wanan get this vid just message me on aim ...

[`def-zero]

i agree but ... iroc's are so fugly. lol j/kyea this argument is out of steam there is no middle ground and im sure once this is over someone 'll pull a Trent Lott and ... you know the rest - hah

[Guffed]

"The Porsche GT3 runs in GT for a reason, and the Corvette C5R runs in GTS for a reason. Where is the skyline?"

Uh....The skyline is also in the GTS class...Idiot. I did a HUGE report on the Le Mans.

[Onizuka]

holy old post revival batman!

[drifter sx]

holy old post revival batman!

heh definitely, but as long as its out....

http://www.automotivearticles....0.htm

this and a vette would be a sight to see

[nlzmo400r]

gotta love the r39o, 55ohp out of a 3.5 liter, thats badass

[Metroyed]

All im going to say is this.

you put enough money into a car it will be fast.

[Bubba1]

Whoever said the Corvette can't handle needs his head examined. Like 'em or not, Z06's rank among the best handling mass produced cars you can buy, and they're inexpensive compared to the other cars in it's class (if you measure by ability) And the reason you see so many in the weeds is because they are commonly purchased by people who have no idea how to drive them. Personally I'd love to own one. Great cars.

As far as comparisons, you should compare apples to apples. US spec production car vs. US spec production car. I'm reading all sorts of even comparisons of modded/performance tuned cars, like Lingenfelter vs stock cars.. Geez, You can build up a freaking Yugo to smoke a Vette. But are you guys comparing tuners or cars here.

If I'm not mistaken the fastest Nissan is the R390, and last time I looked they're not availabile in US spec.

[nlzmo400r]

haha, by far not U.S spec

[Turb0wned]

damn i knew the Lingenfelter was fast but i didnt think it had that much hp and did 9's

[QShip]

All im going to say is this.

you put enough money into a car it will be fast.

So true. So true.

[McAdam]

oh you guys!!

jeeze, the vette is nice, but its no skyline! lol here come the flames! naw, i mean I have seen vettes up close and personal (never driven one) and the build quality suffers. the interior looks like every other GM P.O.S. with all teh bad plastic trip that looks like its gonna fall apart.

The vette sure is fast. no doubt about that. I would never race one. well, not until I get my 280ZX turbo to 240Z transplant done. but thats a modded car vs a stock car. granted for about 1/20th the price. now if you took a skyline from the JDM that was modded with about $55k and stack it against the lingenfelter vette, I beleive the skyline would hand it its arse. Especially on the track. there is no match for the AWD.

does the vette have more power potential? yes, because of cubic inches. granted its 2 valve pushrod motor limits it somewhat, but common! its like, almost 3 times as big as the skyline motor. would I rather own a vette or a skyline? geeeee, let me think........ uhm, skyline! in a heart beat. not to say I would turn down a vette if someone said "hey! I'll trade you my vette for your SAAB!" unless it was the c3 vettes, you know the mako shark ones, from late 60's thru '82? Id kick that to the curb. hrmmmm, performance! 185hp from a 350cu in engine!

and to the person that said saturns could get inot the 14's stock, bwahahahhahhahahHAHAHHHHahhahHHAHAHhhahhahhaaa! ouch, I hurt.

McAdam

[Antyoo]

i'd take a 2003 mustang cobra over a z06, a regular c5 and a 50th aniversary edition corvette are just dressed up camaros

32 valve, factory FI, vastly improved handling and great sound. runs 12's stock. relatively cheap mods will make it a lot faster and it doesnt take a 7 liter engine to do it. but if you like more displacement, get a lightning engine in there, 5.4 liter 32 valve SC engine.

by far, however, my favorite american car would have to be the 1992-1994 viper RT/10, followed by the Cobra. you can buy an RT/10 for about $40k. spend $60k on that car and see what you get.

on a side note, the GM of today sucks. they never try anything new and build quality matches the stereotype most people give to ford.

[nlzmo400r]

yes the inside of corvettes are fairly cheap, but id rather them make hte car for 5ok and use not so great interior guages etc. and have hte car extremely fast than the other way around. Also, the new ford mustang cobra may not need 7liters of diplacement, but the vette only has 5.7, as opposed to the cobras 4.6, and the cobra's got a supercharger at taht, id take the vette over the cobra in a heartbeat. U think teh interior of vettes are cheap, ever sat in a stang? thaey're all the same, VERY plainl One of the ugliest interors of any car ive ever seen

[GELLIS2586]

Nissans fastest car is the r390 twin turbo v8it does like a 3.7 and is crazy. There are only a few of the street editions. Basically its a race car with a full interior and other things needed for the real world. And its only available in japan

[89240sx]

corvette z06s run 12s, not just stock corvettes. And who said they can handle? My friend TJ totalled his vette against a race involving a suped up civic. To say the vette is one of the best handling cars on the road is just unthinkable. Do any of watch the lemans races? How many times has that yellow corvette even reached the top 5. Last time i know was bout a year ago. The audi S4, BMW M3, porsche 911 turbo, mazda Rx-7, Mitsibishi Lancer Evolution VII, and nissan s15 silvia are, in my opinion, the best handling cars out there. No american cars deserve this list.

Lambo is owned by Chrysler

[tl1000sga]

This has got to be the most ignorant, full of misinformation, and opinionated thread I have ever seen.

Ligenfelter a one off???????????????Not streetable???????????$40k viper??????????C5R not winning in lemans???????????Comparing a C5 to a skyline in performance?????????

Z06 = 50k in USGTR = 50k in japan

Z06 = Supercar registryGTR = not

Z06 = 12.4 in 1/4GTR = R33 = 14.0 R34 = 13.7

Z06 = 1G handlingGTR = R33 = 0.94G R34 = 0.88G

Z06 = 4.1 - 0-60mphGTR = 4.9

Z06 = 180mph top speedGTR = 155mph

Yeah, you could build the **** outa both these cars, but stock for stock? Come on, these are all facts. If you can't acknowledge these facts, then you're just being predjudice.

I would take a GTR first, but that's only because of how much I like them and how rare they are here. I think the corvette deserves it's hard earned respect. It is the most affordable car in the supercar registry.