Nissans fastest car?

[240_2NR]

Hey McAdamwhere can i find a lot, i mean a LOT if info about the R383, on-line or in a book, I would like to know, that sort of stuff really interests me thanx

[tl1000sga]

Nobody on this thread has downed the skyline, but quite a few have downed the vette. As far as GM being a ****ty company, It's THE largest automotive manufacturer in the world, so they must be doing something right. Plastic interiors? Last time I checked, 90% of the cars in the world have plastic interiors, except the old school domestics. As far as automotive technology, why does everyone think imports have more tech than domestics? They don't. Just because they run smaller displacement engines doesn't mean they have more tech. Look at all the newer, larger imports, they have engines just as big if not larger. So, one could say that they are just now catching up to us (in some aspects). I respect all cars(almost), even the ones that I don't like for whatever reason.

And just to clear things up, the lingenfelter vettes can do 8's on street tires, hit 240 mph with the same gearing, push 1100hp, look completely stock, and do it all on pump gas.

Oh, and vettes have had fuel injection since 1955.

How can you down a car like that? I'm sure someone will still find a way. Maybe Nissan should put thier name on a Z06, that would put an end to the corvette bashing right away.

[NeverEnuff]

And just to clear things up, the lingenfelter vettes can do 8's on street tires, hit 240 mph with the same gearing, push 1100hp, look completely stock, and do it all on pump gas.

i think you have ben missinformed it runs mid 9s and that was on slicks and does not have 1100 btw i love corvets but nether car is beter than the other only reson y i would like skyline more is thar arnt many over hear and i see corvets all the time

[tl1000sga]

I agree, I would rather have a skyline. The highest HP lingenfelter kit is around 1100 hp and it can hit 8's.

[nlzmo400r]

thats prety god damn quick, however i dont think the 8sec run was on pump gas

[swifty949]

any record books to back that statement up? I havent seen it on the Litengfelter website...

[McAdam]

The only reason the imports are putting larger engines into cars these days is to appease the american car buyer. they want power and they want it right now. they cant be bothered to wait for a turbo to spool up nor can the american oil and gas companies be bothered to refine gas just a tad more so companies can bring driect injection over here stateside. I was knocking the corvette for having a plastic interior. I just want to make that clear. the dash sucks and is un-inspired. its just pure mickey mouse. I mean, If I am gonna drop $50000 on a car, I would expect a little bit of refinement. Why does the vette cost so much? where does that high sticker come from? does it come from research and development into a powerplant that has been around since the dark ages of the automobile? does it come from the assembly line produced body? How about the transmission that it shares with the now defunct F body cars? (previous model vettes, I realize the newer ones have transaxels. p.s. to that, the 1963 pontiac tempest had the exact same set-up, save for the fact the vette has 6 gears, not 4) Now, you look at the skyline, you can see where your money is going. AWD, 4WS, viscous diffs all around, an interior that I would kill for, ceramic turbos, you name it, the list goes on.

McAdam

p.s. if you slapped a nissan badge on a P.O.S., it would still be a turd. when they start slapping nissan badges on renaults, you'll see some flamage kick up from me.

[tl1000sga]

I mean, If I am gonna drop $50000 on a car, I would expect a little bit of refinement. Why does the vette cost so much?

Yeah, cause corvettes aren't refined or anything like that.:rolleyes

The vette is the lowest priced car in the supercar registry. See if you could find a stock car that performs like a Z06 for 50k.

[tl1000sga]

any record books to back that statement up? I havent seen it on the Litengfelter website...

Well.....it used to be on the website, I swear. lolI guess I can't back it up now, but the 9 second car is still nothing to disrespect.

[easymmkay240sx]

oh you guys!!

jeeze, the vette is nice, but its no skyline! lol here come the flames! naw, i mean I have seen vettes up close and personal (never driven one) and the build quality suffers. the interior looks like every other GM P.O.S. with all teh bad plastic trip that looks like its gonna fall apart.

The vette sure is fast. no doubt about that. I would never race one. well, not until I get my 280ZX turbo to 240Z transplant done. but thats a modded car vs a stock car. granted for about 1/20th the price. now if you took a skyline from the JDM that was modded with about $55k and stack it against the lingenfelter vette, I beleive the skyline would hand it its arse. Especially on the track. there is no match for the AWD.

does the vette have more power potential? yes, because of cubic inches. granted its 2 valve pushrod motor limits it somewhat, but common! its like, almost 3 times as big as the skyline motor. would I rather own a vette or a skyline? geeeee, let me think........ uhm, skyline! in a heart beat. not to say I would turn down a vette if someone said "hey! I'll trade you my vette for your SAAB!" unless it was the c3 vettes, you know the mako shark ones, from late 60's thru '82? Id kick that to the curb. hrmmmm, performance! 185hp from a 350cu in engine!

and to the person that said saturns could get inot the 14's stock, bwahahahhahhahahHAHAHHHHahhahHHAHAHhhahhahhaaa! ouch, I hurt.

McAdam

Ummm, yes, they can. Ever heard of the ION Redline?

[tl1000sga]

Ummm, yes, they can. Ever heard of the ION Redline?

I've never heard of it.details please....

[Ceptos]

from msn autos:

140hp @ 5800145lb-ft @ 4400

0-60: 9.67sec.1/4 mile: 17.38sec.

wow, some ion.

[easymmkay240sx]

umm, yeah, that's not the ION Redline.

the ION redline comes with a an Eaton helical Roots supercharger (and an air-to-water intercooler) 2.0L Ecotec. The setup is able to handle up to 12psi

[Ceptos]

a super charger on a saturn? ehh, at least cars like that will keep the psuedo enthusiasts away from the 240

[St. Silvia]

I think a lot of you are making more out of the skylines vaunted AWD than it really deserves. In a true all-out circuit race it would probably slow you down. Theres a reason why JGTC GT500 skylines are all RWD. And though 30 years ago American cars handled like boats and had all the responsiveness of a wet sponge, a lot has changed. For Christ sake, the Mustang Cobra puts up pretty good skippad and slalom numbers and thats a MUSTANG. Domestic cars have improved a lot and many of them dont handle that poorly anymore. Hell if Ford ever brings its Focus RS over here I just might consider it along with the STi for my next car. Dont dog on the C5 Z06, its an amazing performance bargain (with a bargain interior) All that being said, I think that with a 100K the skyline could probably edge out the corvette. I certainly dont think either of these cars would "destroy" or "smoke" the other. It would be a lot closer than I think many of you are willing to admit. About the R390. That car competes in a completely different class from the Ligenfelter (sp?) or similarly highly modded Skyline. That is a purpose-built, factory race car, built with the nearly unlimited resources of a major automaker. Even with less power it would DESTROY just about every mass produced car regardless of modification. That car would be competing against the Porsche GT1, Mercedes CLK-GTR, Toyota's GT-one, Mazdas old but amazing N/A quad-rotor 787B, Jaguar XJ220 and the like. That is an elite group of cars and it would be hard for even a corvette skyline to keep on a road course. Once you get to that caliber, its a matter of subjective opinon. However, I seriously doubt that anyone on these boards myself included should be allowed behind the wheel of that kind of road rocket. The ability to go 220mph+ on public roads is quite a temptation and should be a carefully guarded privelege. Hell you want scary, check out http://www.ultimatecarpage.com...left= . 800 hp in a 2300lb bone stock factory produced car. That is more than a little scary.

[Onizuka]

I think a lot of you are making more out of the skylines vaunted AWD than it really deserves. In a true all-out circuit race it would probably slow you down. Theres a reason why JGTC GT500 skylines are all RWD.

Wrong, they didnt want to use AWD because they werent ready to deal with the added weight penalties (because AWD provides an unfair advantage, weight penalties are assesed). This year the GT-R's ARE running AWD systems in JGTC since they upped the displacement .4 liters with the use of the VQ30DETT (still in the R34 body style).

[180fan]

dunno man, some of those saturns can be pretty quick. there are a couple of guys running pretty swiftly in those saturn sc's. Speaking of strange things, a little while ago, I saw an older style neon dragging with a FD3S and was actually keeping up. Then again the FD driver could have been like this one civic driver that was trying to drag against a geo metro and lost so bad (saw this 3 years ago). Ha ha ha.

oh another fun car to have a look at would be the RB26DETT powered tommy kaira zzII. It's supposed to be less than 2k lbs., runs what 2.7L pushing 550hp with 4wd. Impressive stuff although I wouldn't want to be in that sardine can when it crashes.

[D-UNIT]

HAHAHA the infamous Corvette protecter is back. But.... last time I checked Nissan never made any Corvettes or Speed 12's or Saturns , so why are we talking about them here?? Oh well. Here goes.

You're right though , the Lingenfelter twin turbo hits 800hp w/14psi on 91oct and a 9.98sec quarter mile burnout with real street tires(not 8's but not slow either). Now add race gas and DOT drag radials and you've got 1100hp w/ 20 psi and 9.24sec quarter at 150mph. Lingenfelter hit a 8.95sec@153 when no one was looking. haha. That is awesome!!

Don't believe me -- here you go , eat it all up!! and get informed. Why would he lie. He has nothing to prove to anyone!

http://www.lingenfelter.com/im...t.pdf (Please wait for it to load. I'm tired of defending this car!! Everthing you ever wanted to know.) awesome right!?!

Yeah true with enough money you could make anything smoke anything. But I still want to see a 9sec anything w/ a 2year-24,000mile warraty.HA

I love R390's. I think I would take one over a Mclaren F1!!!...... ahh maybe not! Also don't come and say " I can build a 1200hp skyline for way cheaper and smoke a tt corvette on the track!!" So what , in a real road racing situation anything over 900hp is useless. You'll only be drifting and burning tires not going anywhere. Especially with a stock bodied car and street tires. 1200+ hp is only good for top speed runs and drag racing and dyno queens.

Did you know stock R390's run low 10's!!

[EnzoRWD]

i'd take a 2003 mustang cobra over a z06, a regular c5 and a 50th aniversary edition corvette are just dressed up camaros

32 valve, factory FI, vastly improved handling and great sound. runs 12's stock. relatively cheap mods will make it a lot faster and it doesnt take a 7 liter engine to do it. but if you like more displacement, get a lightning engine in there, 5.4 liter 32 valve SC engine.

by far, however, my favorite american car would have to be the 1992-1994 viper RT/10, followed by the Cobra. you can buy an RT/10 for about $40k. spend $60k on that car and see what you get.

on a side note, the GM of today sucks. they never try anything new and build quality matches the stereotype most people give to ford.

have you driven these cars? I've walked a 95 RT/10 in thr 02 Z06, and dont even talk about the cobra. im talking about road courses here, where power isnt everything. i think it has *something* to do with the huge brakes and 1g lateral. hmm. i cant wait to drive a skyline someday. that would be hella tight. wait, i cant wait to SEE a skyline. sigh. just standin up my lil ol z06-Enzo

[Ceptos]

interesting you should mention the Focus RS, in actual rally competition, from just a car point of view, it is at least as good, if not outpreforming all other rally cars including the STi, the Evo, Peugeot (the WRC champ last year), Citreon (some of the most reliable in the circuit). the actual traction created from its awd system is considered superior.

old stereotypes die hard. i think a lot of what people consider 'american' car traits, dont really exist anymore. we have to compete with the foreign market. companies arent just small entities anymore, they are parent to many smaller manufacturers, and large companies like ford who own jaguar and aston martin have unlimited resources. the only reason those huge hulking chunks of metal we call muscle cars were ever produced is because there was a market for them, people didnt want the total package, and they didnt want to pay for it; they wanted cheap power, and thats what they got.

my boss owns a mustang and says the interior is horrible, things always breaking and falling off (this is his third mustang), that might say fords are crap, but whoes 240 actually has working lights for their heat/ac and how many times have we seen someone ask for the center plate that goes around the cd player? =)

[tl1000sga]

a super charger on a saturn? ehh, at least cars like that will keep the psuedo enthusiasts away from the 240

I've got 3 friends with 13 sec. saturns, and they love people like you that underestimate them.

[Ceptos]

you wont find me at a track, unless it has hairpin turns.

and, like i said, at least those psuedo-enthusiasts dont own 240's =)

[tl1000sga]

I do have to admit though, those saturns they have are ugly as ****. Not sure which model they are, never really cared for em':D