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I'll being doing the Auto-x with one of my cars.


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Better be takin the tibby. The other cars aren't gonna be running right.

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NSRsheets wrote:I'll being doing the Auto-x with one of my cars.
THE COLT!!!!!!111!!1!!1

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We'll see how work is going at the time, I might be doing Carlisle this year, no competition though, too far away to risk a drive back if something goes wrong. Anyhow, count me down for whatever else needs help, I should get out of work fine!

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YEP!You can add me to the drifter list as well as photographer. Im 100% down for this event.Finnally nice to make a NICO event so close to home!

Jonathan AdamsDrift event1995 Nissan 240sxId say Im an experienced drifter, 4+ years

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NSR_S13 wrote: THE COLT!!!!!!111!!1!!1
The coupe might be ready, but most likely it will be the tiburon. The colt would probably blow up if I tried that.

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My buddy wants to take his SRT 4 on the auto x course so we will be driving up in our own cars, probably with the wife in tow... he's not a member on here but he will probably be going to it and he wants to run on the course...so is this a NICO members only type thing or can non members run on the track?

We will have camcorders with us if you want some video footage.

Edit: Just wondering something, will we have a designated parking area or will we have to park with the 20,000 other people going to this since this is Carlisle's spring opener and primary Import show. Nothing will suck more than not only walking to our cars a mile away but finding them wedged so tightly together that we won't be able to get them out. Also will we have an area set aside for doing tire changes and for stowing our gear and stuff, since I', sure most of us have junk in our trunk that stays there on a near permanent basis(ie fluids, tools, rags ect) and stuff we will have brought strictly for the show, since most of us won't be forking out the money for a hotel (though I am seriously considering it)
Modified by Chaotic_Warlord at 2:59 PM 2/23/2007

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Chaotic_Warlord wrote:My buddy wants to take his SRT 4 on the auto x course so we will be driving up in our own cars, probably with the wife in tow... he's not a member on here but he will probably be going to it and he wants to run on the course...so is this a NICO members only type thing or can non members run on the track?

We will have camcorders with us if you want some video footage.

Edit: Just wondering something, will we have a designated parking area or will we have to park with the 20,000 other people going to this since this is Carlisle's spring opener and primary Import show. Nothing will suck more than not only walking to our cars a mile away but finding them wedged so tightly together that we won't be able to get them out. Also will we have an area set aside for doing tire changes and for stowing our gear and stuff, since I', sure most of us have junk in our trunk that stays there on a near permanent basis(ie fluids, tools, rags ect) and stuff we will have brought strictly for the show, since most of us won't be forking out the money for a hotel (though I am seriously considering it)

Modified by Chaotic_Warlord at 2:59 PM 2/23/2007
That;s a good question. I'm sure I'll have to provide the Carlisle folks a list of the participants, which is why I'm compiling the list on this thread. I'm sure you'll be bringing your car directly to the autocross area instead of general parking. I'm sure there will be a "paddock" area to stow your stuffwhile running. I'll get that clarified for everyone as it gets closer.

Your buddy with the SRT4 is certainly welcome. It's easiest if he signs up on NICO and posts here which is free, but if you want to provide me his info instead, that's okay too.


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A couple of minor items, I don't think it'll affect any one who has already signed up. Convertibles can only compete if they have 4 pt. min. roll bars with 4 pt min belts. Deployable roll bars that are in some cars are not considered sufficient. Sorry. It's an insurance issue.

Also as entertaining as it might be to watch, no SUV's can compete. Sorry if anyone was considering drifting their Explorers.

Thanks.

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Bubba1 wrote:
A couple of minor items, I don't think it'll affect any one who has already signed up. Convertibles can only compete if they have 4 pt. min. roll bars with 4 pt min belts. Deployable roll bars that are in some cars are not considered sufficient. Sorry. It's an insurance issue.[/quote]So no miata's or s2000's?
Bubba1 wrote:Also as entertaining as it might be to watch, no SUV's can compete. Sorry if anyone was considering drifting their Explorers.
You should see me get my explorer sideways in the snow! I'm awesome

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I might be down for the drifting part if I can get my car done. Any regulations for cages? Are they any pics of the track part where we will be drifting?

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574-240sx wrote:I might be down for the drifting part if I can get my car done. Any regulations for cages? Are they any pics of the track part where we will be drifting?
I;ve got your name down in case you do.

As far as rollbars go the only requirement would be the ol "broomstick" rule. that means there must at least two inches (or the width of a broom stick) between the top of your helmet and the bottom of the top brace of the roll bar. That's a rule at most race tracks. The tech people are not going to inspect rollbars except on convertibles .

Unfortuantely I don't have any pics of the course yet, but the drifting and autocross will be on the same track.


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[/quote]So no miata's or s2000's?

You should see me get my explorer sideways in the snow! I'm awesome [/QUOTE]

The newest gen Miata with the retracting hard top should be fine, but the older ones will need roll bars. S2000's will need roll bars.

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Ok. here are the General Event Rules for the drift/autocross event.....

- Drivers must be 18 yrs old or older, with valid drivers license.- Event is open to all registered drivers with cars that pass tech, and have signed the necessary waiver forms.- The only insurance covering drivers and their vehicles during this event is their own. NICO and Carlisle Events are not responsible for any damages, injuries, or thefts.- Cars only need to be tech’ed once for the duration of the event. However, NICO reserves right remove a car if it becomes "unsafe" during the event.- There is no minimum or maximum # of runs.- Only cars that have passed tech and registered drivers permitted on the course.- There can be more than one driver per car, but each driver must be registered.- Runs can only be made while track is staffed and operating green. (nounauthorized private sessions permitted)- Each car will be assigned a number, please make sure it is displayed onon both sides of the car, preferably side rear windows- Driver’s window must be open while on the track. Sunroofs must be closed- All convertibles must have approved aftermarket rollbar or roll cage installed with minimum 4 pt belts. Convertible roll bars must also meet the “2 inch broomstick rule” where there must be at least 2” of clearance between the top of the drivers helmet and bottom edge of the top crossbar- No passengers permitted on track unless approved by Eventmaster.- One vehicle will be on the track at one time.- Autocross runs will be timed and tracked by car number. - Crash helmets SA95/M95 or newer required, to be inspected at tech.- Long cotton pants/cotton shirts mandatory while driving on track (jeans are fine, but no shorts.)- No flip/flops or sandals for drivers.. - Windbreaker/plastic jackets (which melt in fires), not permitted for on-track driving.- In-car video equipment is permitted but must be securely mounted, no suction cup mounts. Must not obstruct drivers view. Eventmaster, NICO, or starter reserve right to refuse a setup.- No alcohol beverages in the paddock, pits, or on track- Smoking is not permitted in the hot pit/track area.- No pets- No bedding of brakes or testing of vehicles in the paddock area- No SUV’s or trucks permitted to participate- Only park in designated areas. If you must jack your car up, please use wood or metal under the jack/jackstands to prevent damage to the asphalt.- Please remove all used tires, parts, liquids, and garbage before leaving. - The facility will not have gas/oil or air, so you’ll need to check your cars prior to arrival.- Bad behavior may result in dismissal from event or facilities. Nico and Carlisle Events reserve the right to dismiss any participant.- Please follow starter/corner worker flag instructions.- Have fun.

If there are any questions/comments ,please let me know.

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I'm soo effing excited about this I can't contain myself. May can't get here fast enough as far as I'm concerned. i have a couple quick questions as i'm sure others will be interested to know this stuff too.

1: Will this operate the same as an SCCA event where you will go through tech inspection and then to a driver's safety meeting before being allowed on the track, especially for the auto-x events?

2: Do you know any of the track specifics? IE; length, shape, material (concrete, asphalt, tar)?

3: In the event of rain (lets cross our fingers for a beuitful sunny weekend) will the events be cancelled or tech requirements for tires change?

4: This is a stupid question, but do the helmets have to be the face variety or will open face work? Also really stupid question... I don't know anything about helmets but will motorcycle helmets work or do we have to get one strictly for auto racing?

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Guys, please, please help me and Bubba get the word out on this - Post it up EVERYWHERE that Nissan people might congregate...


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Its up on Ohionissans.comhttp://www.ohionissans.com/for...233.0

Its up on tunerfriends.com http://www.tunerfriends.com/fo...=8614

Its up on JDMsupercars.comhttp://www.jdmsupercars.com/zerothread?id=2001

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Cool - How about 502SS and PANissans?

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never heard of those....I'll try to track them down when I get home from PT

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If anyone has photos of the track area, casatcarlisle.com's forums says they will be using the one back by the turnpike if that helps any, please post them up so that those oh us who have never been there can get an idea as to what kind of track it is and what the track condition is. I'm sure someone on here has been there since it's pretty much the place to go for car shows in the PA area.

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Glad i came across this thread. Ill be attending. Probably try my hand at Drift and AutoX. My cars not setup for any of this but itll be fun either way.

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Chaotic_Warlord wrote:I'm soo effing excited about this I can't contain myself. May can't get here fast enough as far as I'm concerned. i have a couple quick questions as i'm sure others will be interested to know this stuff too.

1: Will this operate the same as an SCCA event where you will go through tech inspection and then to a driver's safety meeting before being allowed on the track, especially for the auto-x events?

2: Do you know any of the track specifics? IE; length, shape, material (concrete, asphalt, tar)?

3: In the event of rain (lets cross our fingers for a beuitful sunny weekend) will the events be cancelled or tech requirements for tires change?

4: This is a stupid question, but do the helmets have to be the face variety or will open face work? Also really stupid question... I don't know anything about helmets but will motorcycle helmets work or do we have to get one strictly for auto racing?
All good questions:

1. It's going to be less formal than SCCA Solo II. There are not going to be a bunch of separate classes. There won't be restrictions on the number of runs you make, you can bring pretty much whatever kind of car you want, modded or stock. It just has to pass tech. And The tech folks will be checking for safety, not mods.

Yes, you will go thru tech first before registering. The only exception is if you're sharing another person's car and their car has already passed tech.Once I get the schedule for operation from Carlisle, we will have both a drivers meeting and corner worker/volunteer meeting before the track goes green. I'll post the meeting times and the track schedule as the event draws closer. I'd also recommend getting there early enough to do a track walk, and to give yourself time to unpack.

2. Unfortunately I have no specifics on the course yet , other than that is a permanent course, not a parking lot cone course, and there is supposed to be ample runoff room. I don't know the pavement material or how wide it is,. The one autocrosser I spoke to said it was a "fun" course.

3. Unless I'm told otherwise, it's goes on rain or shine. For the drifters, a wet track would be easier on the tires. And for autocross, wet is the great equalizer. If you're running street tires, you should have no problem.I intend to brng my canopy (red 8x8) which fits in my car, plus a tarp to keep thingsdry if rain is in the forecasts.

4. There are many types of helmets both open face and full face, with and without face shields, and in all price ranges. For this event, it really doesn't matter what type of helmet you bring just as long its safety rating meets or exceds requirements (SA 95 or M95) and that it's not cracked. M95 is a Motorcyle helmet. If you intend to do more autocrossing or HPDE, I'd recommend getting an SA helmet. As a coincidence, I just got my new helmet in the mail today, My old SA95 is expiring for the Audi track events I do. I bought a a Bell M4 Pro (SA2005) full face with a visor. Racer Wholesale is where I ordered it from.www. racerwholesale.com.

I hope that helps.

I'm looking forward to it too.


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Are motocross helmits allowed? I usually use it for drag racing.

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A crash helmet (SA95/ M95 or newer.........Was on the first page

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DrifterProdigy85 wrote:Are motocross helmits allowed? I usually use it for drag racing.
Like what was already said. Look inside you helmet or on the back. The rating is there.

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Just checking because i think i ripped the stickers out of the helmit long time back.

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w00t

i can volunteer for whatever.....if anytihng is still needed email me

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I'll also more than likely be drifting and auto-x'n, as long as can get rid of these damn 14" rims and shot suspension

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I went to this show at Carlisle about 2-3 years ago. I was more interested in watching the autox at the tiny track they have way in the back than any show cars. It's not a big track btw, but it's got some tight turns and a straight or two. Most cars won't need to leave 2nd gear it looked like. I'm still searching for pics.

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DrifterProdigy85 wrote:Just checking because i think i ripped the stickers out of the helmit long time back.
Unfortunately, if you removed that sticker, the helmet would fail tech and you would not be permitted to participate. There is no wiggle room with the helmet rating rule. Sorry.


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Not to thread jack but if you are going please post in one or all off the Carlisle Roll Call threads, the links are in my signature. This will let others in your area know that you are coming and allow everyone to organize caravans as they see fit, (b/c it's more fun to drive as a group). This will also give the Mods a rough head count and all other members to organize meet points so we can all meet those members who we really want to. Remember NICOfest is supposed to give members the chance to meet each other an meet the Mods and Admins just as much as it is a car show. BTW I am looking forward to meeting Greg just to see if he's as cool a guy as he is on here. Oh and Bubba1 too just cause he lives in my area.


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