New Suspension Part for the S13

[mrgreeneyes]

20% increase.

This is solely because I am only going to be using small local job shops from now on, so I can control production, and do not run into a situation like what just occurred.

John

i coulda sworn that these were intro'd at $39.99ish. oh well.

do i order via site or paypal you or what, John?

[johngriff]

Site lets you do paypal or major CC through Paypal

[mrgreeneyes]

Site lets you do paypal or major CC through Paypal

AWESOME! you ready for my order? im ready.

EDIT:

payment sent.

[Space Monkey]

Still waiting on a shipping email:P

This is the last NICO product i need to have a complete NICO setup!

[johngriff]

I think I am almost all caught up.

Only orders I have not shipped today are international b/c they take longer, I have to fill out declarations and sign each one.

So international a little later this week. Pretty much got all of the US orders taken care of, and get them to the post office today b4 5pm with departure scans. You all should have tracking emails in your inbox, short international and some real recent orders from Jan20 on.

John

[Space Monkey]

Us Canadians always getting the shaft

J/K!

I am a very impatient person. Just ask Greg! I bugged the crap out of him and Jason for stuff!

[johngriff]

Yeah sorry about that. I wanted to get as much done today as I could before 5pm and get everything scanned in that way tracking is accurate and fast. If i just drop it at the post office sometimes they won't get it out until 3 - 7 days later, so I have to make sure I have all my stuff in before 5 then watch them scan it in.

International will get done later this week, and its the same story with that, if I don't get it scanned in, it might take longer to go out, or not confirm delivery through the process.

[Space Monkey]

No worries John. My car is still on jack stands LOL. I was just busting balls.

[Space Monkey]

oo I got MAIL! Woohoo! They are on the way!

[carps13guy]

^ yup, me too! . im pretty excited

[johngriff]

Yeah, after I make the next drop tomorrow morning @ the post office we are 100% caught up on subframe support braces.

Soo... if you did NOT get a tracking email, and feel you have been missed, PLEASE EMAIL ME ([email protected]) OR CALL! (949) 891 1710 and ask for john so I can look your order up and get you tracking or get your order shipped.

We are still behind on VSHT's but that is because they are made by hand, which should be changing in a month or two with any luck.

Thank you everyone for your support, I know the last few months have been bumpy on these parts, but it will not be like this ever again. I am cutting a purchase order for the next run at the end of this week, so we have overlapping inventories.

Thanks!

John

and adam, if you check your tracking, it should show it scanned in at the local post office, so 2-4 days and you will have your braces. I also think people received braces today, and more people will definitely tomorrow.

[Space Monkey]

Thank John!

By the way, You have mail

[Tw1tCh_F0_5hIzZlE]

something ima be ordering soon look way nicer and better then my old messed ones

[johngriff]

Not only do they look good, but they actually make a really noticeable difference with a very small amount of work and money. This is like the least expensive suspension upgrade you can feel, and grin for the S13.


Modified by johngriff at 9:58 AM 2/11/2010

[Tw1tCh_F0_5hIzZlE]

illl be ordering ith in the next week or so

[johngriff]

What MGE is looking to prove, is the performance with all solid subframe bushings. I am really positive that there will be a noticeable improvement in performance, because these bars reduce lateral flex of the subframe, ie: driver side force pushing forward, and the passenger side force pushing backwords... or "twisting". This is what produces wheel hop in the S13 setup, and solid bushings really do not address the issue.

This issue is taken up thoroughly in the Mustang Cobra and Camaro crowds. The IRS rear ends of those vehicles are similar in theory to the 240sx but, not as good as owners regularly see the subframe permanently bending, or the differential case/cover cracking because of the force on the rear end. The solution in those communities is Subframe Support Bars.

Subframe Connectors - How To - 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords Magazine

So we took a page from the domestic scene, and tried different variations in the S13 chassis until we found the best cross between low cost, ease of install and high effective performance. That is why as you read on the site the part is so astoundingly reviewed, because it really is a weak link in the S13. In the S14 nissan went after this link by triangulating it and making a little beefier brace, but they are still just using steel.

The RPSport part really over kills the application, being 100 times stronger than the oem part. The oem a 10 year old could easily bend in half. If anyone sends me a video of them bending an RPSport brace by hand, I will gladly refund you your money, and send you another set.

If anyone shows me a bent RPSport Subframe Support Brace from track abuse, I will gladly exchange you another set, life time.

The best way to sum up the way this force acts on the subframe is better described in some MS paint pictures.



Hopefully that clears up the function, and how people understand the part working.

In short, your RPSport Subframe Support Braces will arrive QUICKLY to your house, and no matter what motor sport, or even regular driving activity, you will immediately notice a difference from the reduced rear flex on the subframe. What is better, is it is after one of the easiest installs of a part you may have ever done!

[S14toRPS13]

Great explanation! I just ordered a set. I can't wait to try them out and see how much it effects wheel hop.

[breadbox]

Yay!, they should get here anyday now then. Called home and I got them yesterday, I never checked my mail.
Modified by breadbox at 12:37 PM 2/12/2010

[johngriff]

Thanks for the order!

Yeah, once you get the tracking notification, it should be there withing 2-3 days max.

John

[johngriff]

Just wanted to make sure everyone got their subframe support braces?!?!?

Did I miss anyone?

John

[Space Monkey]

Mine are still....uhh...i guess in transit? LOL It's cool, i'm just starting body work on the shell. I can wait.

[johngriff]

That is really weird they are taking so long to get to you. You can see the scan in they did at my local post office.... I wonder if they are stuck in Canadian customs?

[carps13guy]

Just wanted to make sure everyone got their subframe support braces?!?!?

Did I miss anyone?

John

mine arrived this last weekend. i installed them this afternoon. i then took a joy ride and IMO they make quite a noticable difference for such a little aluminum bar. with a open differential, subframe collars, and stock tires wheel spin is more prevalent. its ok though, because the corner entry feels much more crisp and stable now, the rear end is more planted.
Modified by carps13guy at 6:57 PM 2/16/2010

[mrgreeneyes]

Got mine today. Things are as anticipated. Ill be testing on 3 test mule s13s, mine obviously included.

Will provide real honest feedback once done on all 3

[StandardProspect]

I got mine a couple days ago and they look great. Won't have a chance to test them for a while yet, but they look 10 times better than the sorry looking stock ones.

[Space Monkey]

Starting to wonder is the post office forgot to send me mine...

[Scuffed_ChukiCoupe]

yaay something new to buy when the tax money comes.

[Space Monkey]

Grr...8 Days and it hasn't even hit the boarder yet...

[johngriff]

Really? I am thinking the tracking might not work across the border. The scan shows you for sure I dropped it off @ the post office, but the delivery time is unacceptable, it is supposed to be 2-3 day priority. I am worried I might have messed up your customs form.. but I have not heard anything from the post office on your package having an issue. Hopefully the mounties on moose back get you your SSB's soon!

[johngriff]

Did they show up yet?

I am I missing anyone else? We have plenty in stock now, and if you order today, you should have them by wednesday!