New Suspension Part for the S13

[johngriff]

Just watch the email you used for the purchase for a tracking email notification.

If you don't get one by next week just let me know.

John

[mrgreeneyes]

Jesus christ.

If you don't like the product, stay the hell out.

It's a pretty simple concept you just can't seem to comprehend.

I can vouch for John and the product.

Still have these on my daily driver and absolutely love them.

The product has already been tested several times and proven to work.

So, there's no need for him to give your a** a free set to make you happy.

LOL sounds like your broke and looking for a huge discount. if people like his products people are going to keep on buying them and i think john could give himself a promotion if he wanted to.

I am not a fan of John but when you run a company you don't just give out stuff for free you can't make money like that. tell me would you just give out stuff for free just cuz some punk bashes you online?? buy them give your words more creditability and then if you don't like his products then bash it but so far your just all talk. and nooby really hurts my feelings i think i will go cry now thanks

sorry BRO's. i missed the part where i said i wanted ANYTHING from John for FREE. you two are ridiculous.

i asked him to "hook me up" with a set. aka a business transaction. sorry if my slang threw you DUDES for a loop.

id LOVE to be proved wrong. only way to do that is a set on my car. do i forsee a mindblowing difference with an already solid subframe? no.

have stranger things happened where a solid object needs reinforcement? who knows.

marinenick, you know nothing about me, my financial status, or my car. i have one of the most complete suspension setups on this forum.

i will GLADLY promote a functional suspension part, as i will quite frequently recommend Parts Shop Max to anyone looking for nearly any handling part for their car.

carry on.
Modified by mrgreeneyes at 11:15 PM 2/5/2010

[AZhitman]

sorry BRO's. i missed the part where i said i wanted ANYTHING from John for FREE. you two are ridiculous.

i asked him to "hook me up" with a set. aka a business transaction. sorry if my slang threw you DUDES for a loop.

I'm pretty well-versed in net lingo, slang, and automotive parts transfer of ownership.

"hook me up with a set" means "send me a set for free", unless you provide some sort of specificity.

Always has, always will.

Sorry, MGE, with all due respect, I gotta call you out on this one. Let's keep the theoreticals and hypotheticals out of the thread.

If you wanna bash without any empirical evidence at all, here's how it's done: Drop $40 on a set, install them, assess results. If they do nothing for you, then you can say so at will, and I will back you up 100%.

Otherwise, you're just making noise.

(BTW, shipping delays are a valid concern as well - But only to people who have purchased something.)

/discussion AND /threadjack.

[mrgreeneyes]

I'm pretty well-versed in net lingo, slang, and automotive parts transfer of ownership.

"hook me up with a set" means "send me a set for free", unless you provide some sort of specificity.

Always has, always will.

Sorry, MGE, with all due respect, I gotta call you out on this one. Let's keep the theoreticals and hypotheticals out of the thread.

If you wanna bash without any empirical evidence at all, here's how it's done: Drop $40 on a set, install them, assess results. If they do nothing for you, then you can say so at will, and I will back you up 100%.

Otherwise, you're just making noise.

(BTW, shipping delays are a valid concern as well - But only to people who have purchased something.)

/discussion AND /threadjack.

if they dont make a difference, ill end up with $40 shiny pieces under the car. if nothing else, something to break up all the PSM orange and eastcoast gray subframe.

hitman, i clearly stated that ill end up with $40 shiny pieces rather than FREE shiny pieces.

i guess my east coast slang got lost in translation.

guess there will be some blue to break this up... i didnt want to drop $40 on two lengths of aluminum, but i guess my "noise" is worth that much.



how do i procure such a thing john?
Modified by mrgreeneyes at 5:49 PM 2/6/2010

[SirSilvia]

Either way, I'll give someone $40 to put these on their car to STOP the bickering. If you don't have the part, STFU. I subscribed to this thread and have been watching the same thing too. Yeah they time for the part to be delivered is a little long. There are probably good reasons for it other than the ones stated already. Not bashing anyone but unless you have the part don't start making assumptions on it's performance. It doesn't matter if you have this or that. Like solid subframe bushings. That has little to do with wheel hop. The subframe can still move around. A tall building is made of concrete and steel yet moves and sways as if it's rubber. So again, PM me your paypal email and I will fork over $40 to shut it and provide an opinion with your own experience to back it up.

[mrgreeneyes]

Either way, I'll give someone $40 to put these on their car to STOP the bickering. If you don't have the part, STFU. I subscribed to this thread and have been watching the same thing too. Yeah they time for the part to be delivered is a little long. There are probably good reasons for it other than the ones stated already. Not bashing anyone but unless you have the part don't start making assumptions on it's performance. It doesn't matter if you have this or that. Like solid subframe bushings. That has little to do with wheel hop. The subframe can still move around. A tall building is made of concrete and steel yet moves and sways as if it's rubber. So again, PM me your paypal email and I will fork over $40 to shut it and provide an opinion with your own experience to back it up.

this isnt zilvia, we dont have PM's here anymore.

ill gladly take some money to offset this cost.

and yes, the rucas (psm ones painted black cus i didnt like the orange paint) are on backwards in that mockup pic

[SirSilvia]

PM, EM, IM, what the hell ever. I use PMs on driftpa.com so whatever.

I still don't see an E-Mail in my inbox saying someone requesting money. I like you MGE, gotta rep for PA , but this arguing is turning this place INTO zilvia
Modified by SirSilvia at 6:22 PM 2/6/2010

[AZhitman]

Nice setup, but lots of us run good suspension stuff... I like SPL's stuff a lot.

BTW, if wheel hop is an issue, the LCA and upper spindle bushings need to be ditched in favor of poly units... you've addressed damn near all the other "bad behaviors", but wheel hop originates from instantaneous changes in rear toe on hard acceleration...

I'm guessing from looking at your setup that the bushings have been done already, but it's hard to tell.

[mrgreeneyes]

Nice setup, but lots of us run good suspension stuff... I like SPL's stuff a lot.

BTW, if wheel hop is an issue, the LCA and upper spindle bushings need to be ditched in favor of poly units... you've addressed damn near all the other "bad behaviors", but wheel hop originates from instantaneous changes in rear toe on hard acceleration...

I'm guessing from looking at your setup that the bushings have been done already, but it's hard to tell.

haha, no not on those knuckles. the oem bushings were VERY firm (scary firm actually) and i HATE burning/pressing bushings. as you can see the burn marks on that subframe from those PITA oem subframe mount ones. ugh, NEVER again.

SPL is legit. i wanted to support one of the "smaller" shops who's R&D rivals SPLS. if i didnt have PSM, id FOR SURE have SPL

PM, EM, IM, what the hell ever. I use PMs on driftpa.com so whatever.

I still don't see an E-Mail in my inbox saying someone requesting money. I like you MGE, gotta rep for PA , but this arguing is turning this place INTO zilvia

Modified by SirSilvia at 6:06 PM 2/6/2010

same email addy as the one you listed here for paypal?

[SirSilvia]

same email addy as the one you listed here for paypal?

sent ya an email

[mrgreeneyes]

Let's keep the theoreticals and hypotheticals out of the thread.

Yes sir,I know exactly what you are talking about. Like I said, theoretically it should make and improvement, but I am not going to say "yes it does" until I test it myself.

just re-read that and it made me LOL

that was john responding to me originally NICELY asking if there was a benefit to be had by installing this with solid aluminum subframe bushings.

not trying to re-stir that pot, as it appears im ordering these now, just to give this issue some REAL definition and to get some more suspension on a Rancaster car.

[mrgreeneyes]

sent ya an email

nothing in the inbox? my paypal is the same as my addy

[SirSilvia]

nothing in the inbox? my paypal is the same as my addy

[email protected]? b/c unless I was put into your spam folder its sent. I'm at work and even checked our backend server. Either way, it's sent now.

[AZhitman]

haha, no not on those knuckles. the oem bushings were VERY firm (scary firm actually) and i HATE burning/pressing bushings. as you can see the burn marks on that subframe from those PITA oem subframe mount ones. ugh, NEVER again.

Given the kind of load that the Heim joints are seeing, it's unlikely they're "very firm". The durometer won't lie, you're losing a lot of your benefit there.

You have a solid joint on one end (no deflection) and a rubber one at the other end - Not good, kinda counterproductive.

Not bashing, just surprised - You know your stuff, so that's why I'm

I did mine in less than an hour. Bought a cheap press from HF and went nuts.

[mrgreeneyes]

Given the kind of load that the Heim joints are seeing, it's unlikely they're "very firm". The durometer won't lie, you're losing a lot of your benefit there.

You have a solid joint on one end (no deflection) and a rubber one at the other end - Not good, kinda counterproductive.

Not bashing, just surprised - You know your stuff, so that's why I'm

I did mine in less than an hour. Bought a cheap press from HF and went nuts.

i want a press! and i dont feel like paying for ANOTHER alignment at R/T.

i understand that the rubber is the only thing taking force right now... id LOVE to have heims on that end too, similar to bumnahs, but i cannot justify that cost. ill do poly in the rear when i do the LCA's with new ones. thats the only part of the rear thats untouched.

i HAD the rear part of the poly bushing master kit at my garage, but it got thrown out somehow.

[SirSilvia]

oh and I say pics or it didn't happen. Don't go wasting my money MGE or I'll send this lovely woman to collect the dues.

[mrgreeneyes]

Either way, it's sent now.

gracias sir. PA LOVE!

JOHN, LET'S GET THIS BALL ROLLING!

EDIT:

has the price jumped to $60 PLUS SHIPPING for these? say it aint so!
Modified by mrgreeneyes at 7:37 PM 2/6/2010

[AZhitman]

i want a press! and i dont feel like paying for ANOTHER alignment at R/T.

I think my press was $80... and if you recently paid for an alignment, you drive it back in there and say, "Something's not right" after you swap the bushings.

Regardless, you're about halfway to having an insanely well-built rear end.

Wait. Wut?

[mrgreeneyes]

I think my press was $80... and if you recently paid for an alignment, you drive it back in there and say, "Something's not right" after you swap the bushings.

Regardless, you're about halfway to having an insanely well-built rear end.

Wait. Wut?

im not gonna try to be shifty with RT. they treated me well. they will probably just check it out for free to make sure its still in spec. if not, im willing to pay a small amount to have it re-spec'd

tomei t-trax, new oem hardware, z32 rear brakes, PSM arms, PSM risers, alum driveshaft....

lets the stock KADE spin the rears without any drama.

[SirSilvia]

EDIT:

has the price jumped to $60 PLUS SHIPPING for these? say it aint so!

Modified by mrgreeneyes at 7:37 PM 2/6/2010

I didn't even know that, but I can't spare any more, I'm sure you got 20-25 dollas laying around. Can't me that much for shipping.

[mrgreeneyes]

I didn't even know that, but I can't spare any more, I'm sure you got 20-25 dollas laying around. Can't me that much for shipping.

no doubt dude.

i was shocked to see funds transferred into my account lol. ill cover the rest without a question. i was just commenting that these puppies are marked up 150% of original price.

and now they are blue? i was hoping for purple. but his wife likes blue better?

[SirSilvia]

no doubt dude.

i was shocked to see funds transferred into my account lol. ill cover the rest without a question. i was just commenting that these puppies are marked up 150% of original price.

and now they are blue? i was hoping for purple. but his wife likes blue better?

Lol I put up or shut up. IDK, I like blue, thinking of powder coating my subframe when I have it out. Imagine to have a white subframe and be able to see isht under there.
Modified by SirSilvia at 8:42 PM 2/6/2010

[mrgreeneyes]

Lol I put up or shut up. IDK, I like blue, thinking of powder coating my subframe when I have it out. Imagine to have a white subframe and be able to see isht under there.

white subframe would be BALLIN. do IT!

[AZhitman]

I had an entirely white engine bay on one of my previous cars. Totally nuts.

p.s. Anyone who cares what color their suspension parts are, isn't spending enough time using said parts for their intended purpose.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Lol I put up or shut up. IDK, I like blue, thinking of powder coating my subframe when I have it out. Imagine to have a white subframe and be able to see isht under there.

Modified by SirSilvia at 8:42 PM 2/6/2010

I have a spare subframe in my garage if you need one.

[mrgreeneyes]

I had an entirely white engine bay on one of my previous cars. Totally nuts.

p.s. Anyone who cares what color their suspension parts are, isn't spending enough time using said parts for their intended purpose.

I LIEK SHINEEEZ

[SirSilvia]

with big wheels and an aero or body kit, you're not seeing much. while working on stuff it helps.

I have a spare subframe in my garage if you need one.

I'm not needing one really, it will be for my build car. going to remove it and seal up the factory seams and some unneeded holes and coat it. I want it to last another 20 years

[johngriff]

I once had a trip to the ER then to the optomologist while welding in triangles of sheet steel into a subframe... but thats another story for another time...

150%? No, price in 09 was 49.95 +5.15, price in 10 is 59.95 +5.15.

So 49.95/100 =59.95/X

49.95x=59955995/49.95 = 120 =x120 - 100 = 20% increase.

This is solely because I am only going to be using small local job shops from now on, so I can control production, and do not run into a situation like what just occurred.

John

[S13Teddy]

I <3 John Griff.

[AZhitman]

I LIEK SHINEEEZ