NC FOLKS: **Scammer Alert: '90silvia/90RPS13/Alec Bradford**

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local papers and all the news channels have been notified and i spoke to a couple people over there who seemed pretty excited to hear the details.

heres an update for you: i posted in alec's threads on the "other forum" and that got a response from him in my pm inbox promising the rest of the refund... then i was banned so i cant see his reply.

The staff over there can pull their thumbs out of their as*ses at any time and take the appropriate action, but highly doubtful it will.

it really reflects on a site that there are members like alec doing business without any fear of reprisal, and whats more the administration either doesn't care or supports this kind of behavior.

I was going to delete my account anyways once my problem was solved (either way), but i guess they saved me the trouble.


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They banned you for pursuing a scammer?

Clowns and retards.

Here's an open message to the "management" (LOL) over there: It's bad enough you CLAIM to be the "original" and "largest" 240sx forums.

It's bad enough you send members over here to start crap.

It's bad enough you tout your classifieds and group buys as the best on the web.

BUT banning someone for trying to get something back that's rightfully theirs, AND defending / protecting a KNOWN thief?

You guys may as well pack it in right now - Expect the noose to tighten and the hammer to drop.

You're now accessories to the scam.

It's boycott time, Gentlemen.

If you give a DAMN about the good people who have been scammed, stop ALL traffic to a site that defends / protects thieves.

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AZhitman wrote:They banned you for pursuing a scammer?

Clowns and retards.

Here's an open message to the "management" (LOL) over there: It's bad enough you CLAIM to be the "original" and "largest" 240sx forums.

It's bad enough you send members over here to start crap.

It's bad enough you tout your classifieds and group buys as the best on the web.

BUT banning someone for trying to get something back that's rightfully theirs, AND defending / protecting a KNOWN thief?

You guys may as well pack it in right now - Expect the noose to tighten and the hammer to drop.

You're now accessories to the scam.

It's boycott time, Gentlemen.

If you give a DAMN about the good people who have been scammed, stop ALL traffic to a site that defends / protects thieves.
its not like there is any really useful information overthere anyway. most of what i have read there has been incorrect.

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I stop going there long time ago. I just send an email requesting account deletion.

Have you seen the high rep points shown under 90silvia in the members list section??

Unbelieveable....

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yep, and mine were taken away for "being an as*shole" to alec

im so glad we dont have a retarded "rep" system here as you can see how effective it is. ask anyone ive done business with on nico, texas240sx, projectnissan, or slide-factory and youll get all the "rep" you need for me.

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hahahhahahahaha

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I'm in a boycotting mood (I'm boycotting channel 18 news in Charlotte because they are racists) so I think I'll go let THEM know I'm boycotting them too.

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Don't waste your time, that's just another hit in their traffic stats.


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If a site is knowingly providing a conduit for him to scam people they are accomplices and should also be reported to the authorities.

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i just joined today but ive been following this thread for a bit now. i just wanted to comment that ive been a member of Z ilvia for a short time and ive had no problems with any business over there and the information on the boards has been extremely helpful. i just dont think you should say Z ilvia is **** cuz of 1 person. i think both nico and Z ilvia and any 240sx forums are very informative. i just wanted to leave a msg that just cuz some ******* is ruining ****, its not the sites fault, nico still has his account active too... but on a serious note, i do hope this ******* gets his face beat in. i almost got scammed out of 4k myself recently and im still pissed off that i put some trust in someone with my girls savings account . be careful who you deal with online, nico,Z ilvia,ebay, its all buyer beware.

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sebazztard wrote:i just joined today but ive been following this thread for a bit now. i just wanted to comment that ive been a member of Z ilvia for a short time and ive had no problems with any business over there and the information on the boards has been extremely helpful. i just dont think you should say Z ilvia is **** cuz of 1 person. i think both nico and Z ilvia and any 240sx forums are very informative. i just wanted to leave a msg that just cuz some ******* is ruining ****, its not the sites fault, nico still has his account active too... but on a serious note, i do hope this ******* gets his face beat in. i almost got scammed out of 4k myself recently and im still pissed off that i put some trust in someone with my girls savings account . be careful who you deal with online, nico,Z ilvia,ebay, its all buyer beware.
If a forum is knowingly allowing, and therefore assisting, a scammer they are defenitly at fault.

It is true that in reality the buyer must beware - but it sucks that it has to be that way. I bet 2 or 3 people recieving 5 year sentances would bring internet theft to a screaching halt. But thanks to our friends on the far Left society must be leiniant and show compassion for criminals because the poor need to drive sweet cars too so stealing must be tolerated.

Just another fine example of what the far Left has done for America.

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I went there a couple of times until I discovered NICO. The choice was clear. You guys are the best.

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Edub1,

Why don't you move to the middle east? That way when you get caught stealing an m&m they'll chop your hands off. You think Alec should have to spend 5 years in a prison for stealing a few hundred dollars. Sure, he's a douchebag, but there are worse criminals. Alec won't go to jail; it's doubtful he will even be arrested.

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thanks for your opinion, herpes. and btw its more like a few thousand dollars and its not regular theft, its interstate/wire/mail fraud, which is a felony. i will let the feds decide the approopriate punishment when he is caught.

thanks for the bump.

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I looked at both nico and there before i created an account. Nico has my account. screw the other place. /end free bump.

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almost forgot to mention: as recently as last week, he offered to pay me back in full and spoke of refunding another member as well. i still have a private msg in my inbox on Z ilvia, but my account was rendered inactive like i stated above so i cant check it. I dont know that he checks his email but that is the only method of contact i have for him since he doesnt have a physical address, so now im in the dark again thx to the admins on the "other" site.


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pileofherpes wrote: You think Alec should have to spend 5 years in a prison for stealing a few hundred dollars.
Yes, even if he had only stolen a couple hundred dollars (though like d!ck said he has stolen much more) he should spend time in prison. That's how our criminal justice system is supposed to work. When we start saying "well, it's not THAT bad a crime, they shouldn't have to actually be punished," then our system becomes completely ineffective. Then you have to start figuring out how to draw lines. Say he stole $300 and shouldn't be punished. So when do you start punishing people? $500? $1000? $10000?

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what is his name on there?

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hey d!ck it doesnt say your banned anymore, try and sign on.

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pileofherpes wrote:Edub1,

Why don't you move to the middle east? That way when you get caught stealing an m&m they'll chop your hands off. You think Alec should have to spend 5 years in a prison for stealing a few hundred dollars. Sure, he's a douchebag, but there are worse criminals. Alec won't go to jail; it's doubtful he will even be arrested.
See, that stupid comparison is a perfect example of what passes for rational thinking on the Left. If you saw the pictures of Alec you will see a guy who is in good health and obviously not on skid row. Yet his stealing of car parts is compared to the theft of an M&M. A loaf of bread is the more common example when one wants to portray criminals as having to steal to eat.

I've got news for you - the typical theif in America doesn't steal in order to survive, they steal because they are scum who think only of satasfying their basic urge to take what they want without regard for others.

You have sweet 240 - me want sweet 240. Me steal your stuff.

Anyone who thinks this clown is stealing for food money or to pay for his sick child's operation is a fool and needs to leave the thinking to those who are better equiped.

Sorry for being so harsh but this kind of thing really steams me up. Think of it this way...

"Those who have compassion for the indecent lack compassion for the decent."

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Edub1 wrote:
See, that stupid comparison is a perfect example of what passes for rational thinking on the Left.
Seems like your looking for a reason to hate

Alec deserves maximum justice and you guys seem well on the way to making it happen.

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I hate scammers. I hope this guy goes to jail. It is considered Grand Theft when someone steals over $200-$1000 (depends on the jurisdiction).

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Hey AZ Z-ilvia who? That forum sucks anyway, no loss here!

I love nico.

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Edub1 wrote:"Those who have compassion for the indecent lack compassion for the decent."
I agree with everything else you said, but that quote is dangerously flawed.

True Justice cannot exist without mercy anymore than true mercy can exist without justice.

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Back on topic I still don't believe for a second that this punk is actually going to refund anybody. He's proly just trying to buy time.

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politics aside, i only want justice! if alec clears his debts i will be satisfied...

thanks for keeping this at the top guys. i will keep you updated!

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To the poster from Z who popped in, thanks for posting. I think the problem is with theose who run the place, not the members - you're welcome here anytime.

This isn't the first time this has happened recently. Look up Andrew Abalos on this forum - same deal. It's clearly a pattern of willful disregard and complicity by inaction.

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thx i appreciate it, its all about our cars and learning about them and using the information to save some money by doing it ourselves. it has nothing to do what web site, this guy is an ******* and i would personally beat his *** and i had no biz with him. nico has great write ups, i took a look last night on a few things. its well informative just as Z ilvia is. i will be here often, 240s seem to be problematic lol. i dont mean to stray from the topic, i really want to see some justice.

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Penut Butta Jelly and a BaseBall Bat!

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In that order, afterward you can't #1 so well.

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does anyone know what ever happened with that lady that bought a car for her kid from him? Did I miss that somewhere or was it never concluded?


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