in track testings of the fc they found a difference of 1 mph less for top speed with the lights up. not something you'll notice at all.Bumnah wrote: I doubt there is any noticeable disadvantage to having the lights up vs down.
lol @ aerodynamic. this isnt "paper racer" night... i agree on no dis/advantages to up/down positions.Bumnah wrote:
MGE: I knew you were waiting for me to say "it's more aerodynamic". Well I won't give you the pleasure. I doubt there is any noticeable disadvantage to having the lights up vs down. My beef is with having to sacrifice something that could have been saved with a little effort. I mean you're engineering the piece from scratch, you can't engineer it to keep OEM functionality? What is this amateur night?
I'm guessing the core being used is a core that is easily acquired and the most cost effective. Selling products is the name of the game. Selling a slightly imperfect product to minimize production costs is what I would put my money on if I were to critique their design.mrgreeneyes wrote:
lol @ aerodynamic. this isnt "paper racer" night... i agree on no dis/advantages to up/down positions.
if you could have the kit in your own hands, as i did, youd understand 100% why the motors couldnt stay. theres NO way to tuck the IC inlet/outlets ANY closer to the rad sides, nor push them out further. if they kept the same position (they have to) the end tanks would have to have sections notched out of them, giving a s***ty airflow for sure. id rather have a smooth-boosting car than one that keeps gimmicky popup light motors.
just buy the kit and put it on your car and report in ANY way you could make a successful midmount kit any better than PSM.
go in their thread. see if ONE person didnt like the kit...
oh wait... no negs. cus its awesome.
<3 Bumsies
sweetheart, seriously, why such hate? over non moving headlights that had to stay up permanently anyways due to faulty wiring in his car anyway.Bumnah wrote:
I'm guessing the core being used is a core that is easily acquired and the most cost effective. Selling products is the name of the game. Selling a slightly imperfect product to minimize production costs is what I would put my money on if I were to critique their design.
I believe full race offered (perhaps they still do) a "high mount" intercooler setup too. Thei'rs was bigger and didn't mount the same. It too required the removal of the headlights. I believe that was because of the piping being used was of larger diameter.
Bumsies? Really? Is this the line to get the beer or the line to get the tickets to get the beer?
"Hate" wouldn't be how I'd describe my review of the product. I'm just pointing out legitimate short comings of the setup. I mean this is a permanent modification to the car. To some people (such as myself) that may be an issue. You won't believe the personal debate I had with myself on gutting the rear of my Nissan.mrgreeneyes wrote:
sweetheart, seriously, why such hate? over non moving headlights that had to stay up permanently anyways due to faulty wiring in his car anyway.
fullrace has/had(?) a "backdoor" kit. how does that relate to your end of the conversation other than that it is yet another kit that means no flippy floppy lights?
and i want beer. now.
but i dont understand your reference/quote?
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whys everyone always afraid of aircraft stripper? I use it all the time, its beastly. if i get impatient with good gone aircraft stripper takes care of it in no timeDizel01 wrote:Aircraft stripper!?
I say stick with an all purpose cleaner or a lil goo gone.