My 500rwhp SR Build thread...

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As far as suspension i already installed some tein pillow ball tension rods b/c the stock rods were shot, also while i was up there i installed a nismo powerbrace, other then that as soon as i get it running i will be ordering some stance coilovers along with wheels and tires, and some adjustable rear arms.

I will not be doing to much for the exterior for alittle while, im just gonna buff it back out as good as possibly and order a carbon hood & hatch..

Brake wise it already has the 300zx brake conversion with crossdrilled & slotted rotors, and a driftturn knob...


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bump for the build...updates???

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Solow240sx, with respect to standalone EMS, a few things to think about;(1) upgradability: find out if the EMS you choose has firmware upgradability(2) re-sale: a small comparison,Plug and Play ECU- these types are good for individual engines and cars, but can only be re-sold to that type of engine/setup/harness. Also they USUALLY come with a startup map for your car.Universal ECU - as the name implies it will work with any engine dependant on type and features of the EMS, but wiring and setup is a pain and alot of patience, and you may need to tune from scratch.Universal ECU with Patch Loom- In MY Opinion, this type has the best of both worlds. A Patch Loom is basically a short harness with one end attaching to your stock redtop harness, and the other attaching to the EMS. If you choose to sell the engine, you have the option of keeping the EMS and using it on another project by just buying a universal harness or a patch loom, or selling the EMS alone with or without the patch loom and the new buyer just needs a harness. Tuning maps for start up shouldn't be hard to get regardless of the brand of ECU (I recommend Haltech E8). No wiring hassle, plus you can get built in MAP sensors and many other goodies.

I have an E6X, the little brother to the E8, and did 341WHP with a stock engine, 740cc injectors, 60-1 Garrett Journal, Turbo, MSD DIS 4 and the usual additions.

Also, here are some ecu's to look at:

Plug and Play;ApexI Power FCAEM EMS

Universal:Motec M400 (oh my, too expensive though)AEM EMSHaltech E6X, E8 , E11MicrotechElectromotiveAutronic SM2/SM4

Universal w/Patch LoomHaltech E8 Link LEM3

Or, re-map ECU to your individual setup, but then you lose your stock ECU which has good resale value.Also, with the parts you have put in the build, there is only one thing to break this engine- POOR TUNING..................

Hope this helps, keep up the good work, I will more than likely be doing a similar upgrade in the near future.

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Thanks for the info!!

I will get some build updates soon i have just been super busy, The motor is done other then a turbo set-up and ems.. I took a good amount of time making sure that the head was properly shimmed and everything was perfect...

Im waiting on my tax return to come back, then ill be ordering my turbo set-up..

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I may have to come and see this beast when it is done........looks great GL

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Anytime man!! Hopping to have it running and driving by Hot Import Nights, in June!

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Ok guys i should have some pretty big updates here in the next couple weeks... I just ordered my turbo set-up and fuel set-up That will consist of

Full-Race T4 True Twinscroll Dual wastegate manifoldFull-race 3" downpipe2 44MM Tial WastegatesGT3582R Dual ball bearing twinscroll turboJGY top feed fuel railMSD 96LB injectorsMsd style injector clips & resistors

Now The only major thing i will need is The AEM EMS and To get it to Evans-Tuning for the tune!!!

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Solow240sx wrote:Ok guys i should have some pretty big updates here in the next couple weeks... I just ordered my turbo set-up and fuel set-up That will consist of

Full-Race T4 True Twinscroll Dual wastegate manifoldFull-race 3" downpipe2 44MM Tial WastegatesGT3582R Dual ball bearing twinscroll turboJGY top feed fuel railMSD 96LB injectorsMsd style injector clips & resistors

Now The only major thing i will need is The AEM EMS and To get it to Evans-Tuning for the tune!!!
dude you and i were in the same position. it really sucks for me i thought i would get away wit ha .02 overbore. but no so i spent 2 grand more on my block then planed. i am going to go with the jgy fuel kit. i will be tuning my self as part of my sr project of the university i go to.

i just need money for the ems and turbo kit.

waht clutch are you going with.

i wonder how .2 liters would hellp spool up on a gt3582. dont they makea gt3563 that would be a sick twin scroll. well hurry up and get this on the dyno it will help me make my decision as to which turbo set up to use.

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2g is a lot... ouch

what is planing exactly?

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Idaho, I saw your last build and loved it and like the new build even better!! As far as the clutch right now i just have An ACT in it that was previously in it for about 2 months, it still looked great so i decided to finish it off, If the transmission holds up I will be upgrading it in the fall.. Full-race Said on my set-up it should make about 5psi at 3500rpms, then 10psi by 4,000rpms, and 20psi by 4,800-5,000rpms. My car will be mostly drag raced but i still wanted decent spooltime.. Im not sure if Garrett makes a GT3563 or not i was going to run a GT3582R with the T3 exhaust housing so i could run the single wastegate manifold, but i was told that the t3 housing would kill the top end at 6,500rpms and over..

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Also wandering if anyone knows what heat range plugs i should run?? I need to order some but not sure exactly what to order i was thinking heat range 9 since its fully built, with a 35R and 1000cc injectors and i should be running somewhere around 20psi, but i wasn't sure..

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I'm running 8 heat range NGK's on 20 psi on my GT3071R, lol. Can't wait to see the build done man! I'm in the middle of my motor build as well!

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Since you plan to do alot of drag racing are you going to be using gear dependant boost control? Where are you getting tuned?

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i ran heat range 7s in my last set up. i think i am going to stick wit ha gt3076 and make power sooner i want to be able to auto cross aswell as though down a crazy quarter mile time.

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idahotuner wrote:i ran heat range 7s in my last set up. i think i am going to stick wit ha gt3076 and make power sooner i want to be able to auto cross aswell as though down a crazy quarter mile time.
I'm shooting for high 10's with my GT3071R, lol. I love quick spool though! That's why I went a little small compared to most, ha ha

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Im really not sure if im gonna do boost by gear or not, im not even sure is u can with aem ems, But its going to Evans-Tuning to get tuned..

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i control my boost seprate from the ecu. the apexi avc-r is awesome. you can do gear based boosting an all sorts of stuff. i still need to program in my scramble boost fo whne i need the extra kick.
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I'm shooting for high 10's with my GT3071R, lol. I love quick spool though! That's why I went a little small compared to most, ha ha
yeah i am having a hard time. i know that the gt3076 with mid range cams and and stuff will work together awesome. making it a mean street car with track capabilities.

the 264 cams have an excellent range from 3500-7500,8000 i never pulled to 8 grand with the gt2871 cause the power started to drop off because the flow was to high for the small turbine side of the turbo.

i would like to be able to run mid 10 secs.

depending on if i go with the aem ems or pfc will help me decided between how i will exactly set my turbo up. the cool thing is no matter what i decided later on i can port the head and do soild lifters swap in a gt35 or bigger and make some huge power. but right now the head is not set up for making power all that way.

so solow240 what happening for head work. how long tell you get tuned?

i just noticed that my build yours and elnegro's are the biggest ones up here right now

Subdrt is going have a massive sr. but i think 500 in a sr is a good plce to set the limit.


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As far as headwork, i have Jim Wolf valve guides, new oem valve seals, bc springs & retainers, Tomie 270 procams, and it has also been decked, cleaned, ported & polished, and has had a valve job done..

Can anyone tell me where the cut wires at my ecu go where?? I need to resolder and heatshrink them but most of the colors dont match, idk if someone has been in there or is its factory...

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Im taking my car to Evan's when its done also, post up in here once you get tuned and tell us of your experience with him if you dont mind.

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I will, they were very highly recommended by all the honda guys at my local dragstrip.. So im gonna give him a shot!

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Very nice build keep us updated

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dam what a baller turbo setup... how much power are you shooting for at around 20 psi? also whats the max power of ur t4 gt35? im goin with the t3/t67 ball bearing witch can make like 650...

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The twinscroll DBB GT35R is the most reponsive T4 turbo made by Garrett, and power output is anywhere between 500-650rwhp, Full-race said it would be no problem to put down 450rwhp on pump gas and about 12psi..

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Now thats what im talking about ^^^^^ 12lbs and 450hp what else could you want .

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pauliedrft wrote:Now thats what im talking about ^^^^^ 12lbs and 450hp what else could you want .
nice i like the sound of that make me willing ot wait ti buy a gt3582. lol 12 psi and 450 hp is aweom. when did thay say you will hit full boost. did you ask them about a 4mm over bore?

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Great, build it took damn long to read.

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pauliedrft wrote:Now thats what im talking about ^^^^^ 12lbs and 450hp what else could you want .
idk what else.....maybe 450ft lb too. but what ev lol

but seriously, very nice, and thats crazy, only 12lb of boost at 450whp

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No sorry i didn't ask about the overbore, they said on a set-up like mine with the twinscroll 35r that you will see 20psi right before 5,000rpms he said probably about 4750rpms, he also said the Tomie 270's are a perfect match for the t4 35R and will make killer power all the way to redline, Also just wandering since in still running the HLA'S in my motor what would be a safe limit to rev too?? I was thinking 8,000rpms??? Just asking b/c i no alot of u guys have more sr knowledge then me!!

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with lighten retianers and after market springs you can rev to 8000 with HL. but i would invest in rocker arms stoppers.


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