Making too big of a deal ABOUT Obama

[Cali 2 Balti G]

Claiming that some blacks voted for Obama because he's black is racist? You make it racist because you're consciously applying to all blacks and you yourself can't accept the simple fact that someone voted simply based on skin color, which in of itself is racist.

If you acknowledge that some blacks voted for obama becuase of the race then you must acknowledge that there are some whites that did not vote for him for the same reason.

But that still doesnt explain the support that Obama has received accross all races. I doubt it was just because he is black. Im thinking it had something to do with his platform.

[White Comet]

oh you got me pegged ish. in fact i'm gonna tell my friend i can't help him put his cd player in because of his skin color

[ishkabibble]

And because you think he stole it!

[White Comet]

[smockers83]

If you acknowledge that some blacks voted for obama becuase of the race then you must acknowledge that there are some whites that did not vote for him for the same reason.

But that still doesnt explain the support that Obama has received accross all races. I doubt it was just because he is black. Im thinking it had something to do with his platform.

I do acknowledge both sides of that. I think that for the better part of those that voted, race was put aside.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Oprah is happier than a pig in **** right now, today's whole episode was about the inauguration and I'm sure there will be more to come, she practically worships the ground he walks on.

[Jesda]

This is good thinking , but history is what it is. The scars from slavery and oppression continue plague our nation.

Stop picking the scab.

[Armelius]

I don't normally venture into the political forum but the coverage of Obama's inauguration is starting to get to me. well that's not true, but it's adding to my growing annoyance since Obama first started running for president. Basically I'm sick of people making a big deal about Obama's race.Nothing is more annoying then people who dislike him simply because of his skin color, or on the flip side, are for him because of his skin color. My wife brought up a good point this morning; Several African America celebrities, for example Oprah, are insanely supportive of Obama. There's nothing wrong with that, but during other elections i don't recall Oprah strongly backing one candidate over another. I have to wonder if she was just pushing that hard for a ground breaking first black president. Would She and others have supported just any African American running for president?

Fast forward to today with the inauguration coverage. All morning they've been interviewing people about what they think about it, etc, etc. EVERY single person they asked (with the exception of one older lady) were African American. One comment was even made by a reporter about how it'll be monumental for a black man to be in the white house considering it was built by slaves. wtf, this is ridiculous!

edit- if a mod could change the misspelling in my title i'd appreciate it. i was in too much of a hurry to spell check

It doesn't matter what color Obama's skin is because he is supposed to be judged by the content of his character as MLK wanted. Not sure if he has and it seems there are plenty of cheerleaders out there just because of his skin color. He doesn't seem eloquent or even knowledgeable on anything that matters. I haven't read Audacity of Hope just because of it's title.

I think it's great someone replaced Bush and he's probably the worst president since I have been alive and Obama doesn't have to do much to prove himself capable. Just with the current atmosphere it seems that the cheerleaders are going to turn out to be little whores turning themselves out for a pimp that is just going to take advantage of a corrupt system. Maybe it won't be the case but when times are difficult I don't look for a pimp.

[CakeDaddy]

Oprah is happier than a pig in **** right now, today's whole episode was about the inauguration and I'm sure there will be more to come, she practically worships the ground he walks on.

So much for that "growing annoyance" You managed to stomach an entire episode of Oprah while they show cased Obama? Dont come here and complain about seeing too much of Obama anymore, especially after you just watched him on Oprah. Stop watching TV. ... and try not to read too much of this crap on this political side of the forum. Most of the people here dont care for Obama anyhow. They'll just help you add more ignorance to your way of thinking. Enjoy Life...Be Happy & Stop B!tching about the new president

[Chaotic_Warlord]

So much for that "growing annoyance" You managed to stomach an entire episode of Oprah while they show cased Obama? Dont come here and complain about seeing too much of Obama anymore, especially after you just watched him on Oprah. Stop watching TV. ... and try not to read too much of this crap on this political side of the forum. Most of the people here dont care for Obama anyhow. They'll just help you add more ignorance to your way of thinking. Enjoy Life...Be Happy & Stop B!tching about the new president

I never said I watched the episode, they do have this thing called promo spots where they tell you what is coming up in the show, I was flipping through the channels to get to the news to see the weather. The only time I will sit through Oprah is when she has that medical doctor on, he's funny as hell when he explains stuff, especially stuff about sex. Either way Obama was all the news was talking about too and I'm sure we're going to hear more and more because now the news is on the whole First 100 Days thing.

[bobotech]

WRONG! 36 seconds into the video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMyPf4qvdbw...AND WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? Its only a name... DAMN!!!!

I don't care for Barry's politics or standings but I do have to agree with this, WHO cares that his middle name is Hussen? BFD, and get over it.

I used to get quite annoyed with the stupid name calling and terrorlst slams that he got all the time during the election. Just plain dumb.

[White Comet]

I used to get quite annoyed with the stupid name calling and terrorlst slams that he got all the time during the election. Just plain dumb.

i thought that was stupid and pointless

[themadscientist]

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How has education become a bad thing in your book? In all reality, 99.5% of those without at least a bachelors really contribute nothing substantial to our modern society.

It has been my personal experience that knowledge and wisdom are are not the same thing and not always present together. I would put it to you that first, that was a stunningly ignorant statement and until you can produce some numbers to back it up emanates from your *** and will get its due respect and color the way I analyze other comments from you. Secondly I would suggest that 90% of the world's problems as a whole are caused by college graduates. Sure, high school dropouts may car jack but it takes a Harvard alumnist to crash wall street.

People who work with their hands and come home dirty and tired to their families with a humble paycheck continue to be the backbone of America. I am little impressed by so called learned men who have not known the struggle and accomplishment of a hard days work well done. Experience is still the best teacher and in the absence of that education is a tool in the hands of someone who can not effectively apply it to the real world.

I am pursuing a double major and very proud of my scholastic achievements and will be of my degree when I finish. I am also equally, perhaps more proud of those years running jackhammers, driving and fixing trucks and busting my *** in the hot sun. To deny the working man his due respect is to show that you rate none yourself. Another untested idealist feeling superior from the safety and security of mommy and daddies money.

[datsun2401972]

In all reality, 99.5% of those without at least a bachelors really contribute nothing substantial to our modern society.

Wow, there are probably over 100 coworkers within 13 acres around me that, if told that, would slap you in your face.

Pardon me while I get back to supporting America's(and the worlds) Heavy Lifting industry.

[480sx]

Steve jobs was a dropout of college. I only searched for two other rediculiously successful people's educational background. What about all the artists and musicians who never saw any kind of college education and are now rocking the world?

Your comment was moronic Jimmy. Some of the greatest thinkers and minds come from people who break the mold.

[audtatious]

Steve jobs was a dropout of college. I only searched for two other rediculiously successful people's educational background. What about all the artists and musicians who never saw any kind of college education and are now rocking the world?

Your comment was moronic Jimmy. Some of the greatest thinkers and minds come from people who break the mold.

Roll of the dice. Go to a poor side of town and see how many wannabe's didn't make it for every one who did. At least if someone with an education didn't make it (their dream) they have something to fall back on......Unless it's a Liberal Arts degree.....

[datsun2401972]

Stop picking the scab.

It will never stop. Too many racial complexes.

CakeDaddy: No one would ever admit to voting in someone based on their skin color. It just doesn't fit in today's "politically correct" world.

But seriously, you don't think any young whitey's in America voted for a black president just to spite their old racist parents? I've seen rebelious teenagers do much worse...btw, the statement made about SOME blacks voting for Obama just because of his skin color might as well be a fact.

When people start looking in the mirror and say, "I'm proud to be a human being" instead of, "I'm proud to be a black/white/yellow/brown/purple w/pink pokedots man or woman"....racism will stop. People need to understand that Pride can be a very very bad thing sometimes.

[yotik]

Claiming that some blacks voted for Obama because he's black is racist? You make it racist because you're consciously applying to all blacks and you yourself can't accept the simple fact that someone voted simply based on skin color, which in of itself is racist.

Cakedaddy meant to say it's prejudice and he's right Because to say people voted for a candidate because they were the same race is to say they are ignorant. And that no African Americans, including the black business owners, black lobbyists, black lawyers, judges and politicians used their brains to cast a vote. Cmon man

EVEN WARREN BUFFET SAID THERES NOBODY BETTER FOR THE JOB SO HES DOING SOMETHING RIGHT

I mean sure some people probably did. But some whites voted for Mccain because he's white. In other words its a moot point. Personally, Mccain screwed hisself with that Palin character. I mean what was he thinking? I liked Mccain he should run again.

Stop picking the scab.

Stop ignoring the problem. Why do we do this to ourselves? If there is a problem youre not supposed to ignore it, you address it and move on. Cmon man have a heart.

That's a pretty passive comment. If you want to solve the problem, why not try and suggest a way to solve the problem. Telling our leaders they need to talk about it doesn't fix it. Fixing an issue like this is not an easy task. But ultimately, most of the work will have to come from within the minority groups that need the help. We can give them the ball, but they still have to run with it...

Youre right "community policing" is a solution. I have friends operating a program that does just this and it has a positive impact. But a truly positive impact for our society as a whole involves everyones effort. That means business owners (black/white/whateva) bringing jobs to these areas, raising our educational standards etc. When people are uneducated and too poor crime goes up. So there, I gave a potential solution.

[yotik]

It has been my personal experience that knowledge and wisdom are are not the same thing and not always present together. I would put it to you that first, that was a stunningly ignorant statement and until you can produce some numbers to back it up emanates from your *** and will get its due respect and color the way I analyze other comments from you. Secondly I would suggest that 90% of the world's problems as a whole are caused by college graduates. Sure, high school dropouts may car jack but it takes a Harvard alumnist to crash wall street.

People who work with their hands and come home dirty and tired to their families with a humble paycheck continue to be the backbone of America. I am little impressed by so called learned men who have not known the struggle and accomplishment of a hard days work well done. Experience is still the best teacher and in the absence of that education is a tool in the hands of someone who can not effectively apply it to the real world.

I am pursuing a double major and very proud of my scholastic achievements and will be of my degree when I finish. I am also equally, perhaps more proud of those years running jackhammers, driving and fixing trucks and busting my *** in the hot sun. To deny the working man his due respect is to show that you rate none yourself. Another untested idealist feeling superior from the safety and security of mommy and daddies money.

Freggin brilliant He probably doesnt know that most of our countries success stories are high school/college drop outs, and that all of those success stories account for less than 5% of the worlds population. The rest work for a living day in and day out with 1 vaction a year if theyre lucky.

[Jesda]

It will never stop. Too many racial complexes.

And there's money to be made from getting groups angry at each other.

[Jesda]

Stop ignoring the problem. Why do we do this to ourselves? If there is a problem youre not supposed to ignore it, you address it and move on. Cmon man have a heart.

What is this, 1960? Everyone needs to stop pissing and moaning, get a job, and STFU. Race should be IGNORED in this society. Its a distraction from things that matter.

[CakeDaddy]

Exac

What is this, 1960? Everyone needs to stop pissing and moaning, get a job, and STFU. Race should be IGNORED in this society. Its a distraction from things that matter.

Exactly

Theeeeee End!

[smockers83]

Cakedaddy meant to say it's prejudice and he's right Because to say people voted for a candidate because they were the same race is to say they are ignorant. And that no African Americans, including the black business owners, black lobbyists, black lawyers, judges and politicians used their brains to cast a vote. Cmon man

EVEN WARREN BUFFET SAID THERES NOBODY BETTER FOR THE JOB SO HES DOING SOMETHING RIGHT

I mean sure some people probably did. But some whites voted for Mccain because he's white. In other words its a moot point. Personally, Mccain screwed hisself with that Palin character. I mean what was he thinking? I liked Mccain he should run again.

I'm not sure if your argument is directed at me or not. If you've read my postings throughout this thread, you would have noticed that I knew it worked both ways in the election and I know that not all people voted that way, hence the word some.

McCain I don't think will be running anymore for president. This was probably his last chance in order to do so.

[C-Kwik]

Youre right "community policing" is a solution. I have friends operating a program that does just this and it has a positive impact. But a truly positive impact for our society as a whole involves everyones effort. That means business owners (black/white/whateva) bringing jobs to these areas, raising our educational standards etc. When people are uneducated and too poor crime goes up. So there, I gave a potential solution.

I agree with getting the community active in making their community better. However, my point was that the members of the community as a whole need to be more involved and do more to make the changes. Passively waiting for the rest of society to fix it for them isn't going to get them anywhere. This actually applies to everyone. In the long run, the only ones that are victims in this type of scenario are the ones that let themselves be.

Steve jobs was a dropout of college. I only searched for two other rediculiously successful people's educational background. What about all the artists and musicians who never saw any kind of college education and are now rocking the world?

Your comment was moronic Jimmy. Some of the greatest thinkers and minds come from people who break the mold.

Consider how many people are in the world and how many are that successful without their degrees. Hell, compare the number of high pay executives to the number of people in the world. Then add in that people like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates made it in an industry that at the time of their respective companys' inceptions, did not require formal programming education or electrical engineering degrees. The resources required to enter that industry were fairly small as well. The game has gotten much more sophisticated since.

As for artists and musicians, consider how many musicians do not make it at all. The ones that do didn't just one day go out and buy a guitar and suddenly became stars. They put a lot of time and effort into their music when they practiced and created their music. And most also had to put themselves out there and work really hard to get themsleves noticed. Even with avenues like American Idol, few of the entrants make it up to the final group, let alone even make it big if they win.

[audtatious]

McCain I don't think will be running anymore for president. This was probably his last chance in order to do so.

I hope McCain won't run again or get the nomination if he does.

[smockers83]

The argument against McCain for being too old would very well apply four years from now, much more than it did this past year.

[yotik]

The argument against McCain for being too old would very well apply four years from now, much more than it did this past year.

no no no, i have no quarrels with you

I agree with getting the community active in making their community better. However, my point was that the members of the community as a whole need to be more involved and do more to make the changes. Passively waiting for the rest of society to fix it for them isn't going to get them anywhere. This actually applies to everyone. In the long run, the only ones that are victims in this type of scenario are the ones that let themselves be.

I hear what ur sayin man. it doesnt work like that though. if it did, the problem would have been solved a long while ago. The U.S. will get there though. The chamber of commerce is doing some great things nowadays.

[Cali 2 Balti G]

I wouldnt be surprised if Obama offered MMCCAIN a position or at the least leverage MCCain in a bi-partisan way. Kinda like Bush senior and Bill Clinton.

[Jesda]

The only old guy I trust with the White House is Ron Paul. Hell, he's the only one I trust regardless of age.

Enjoy your big spending, folks. Bush was bad, and Obama is seeking to be even worse.

[audtatious]

Bush plus a spendy Congress followed by Bush and a REALLY spendy Congress was bad.....